DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES

FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION

National Center for Toxicological Research

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ranch Hand Advisory Committee Meeting

November 18, 2005

Rockville, Maryland

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Certified Verbatim Transcript

 


TABLE OF CONTENTS

 

Page

 

Opening Session.......................................................................................................................... 1

Update on the Air Force Health Study Disposition Study......................................................... 5

Air Force Health Study Specimen Viability Study................................................................... 22

Air Force Health Study Closure Activities................................................................................ 45

Review of Previous Meeting Minutes........................................................................................ 49

Review of the Air Force Health Study Comprehensive Study Report................................... 50

Public Comment Period........................................................................................................... 127

Report on the Nightline Interview............................................................................................ 135

Program Management Update................................................................................................ 137

Air Force Health Study FY’06 Activities................................................................................. 141

Update on the Dioxin Congeners Study................................................................................. 157

Review of the Air Force Health Study Comprehensive Study Report [continued]............. 182

RHAC Business........................................................................................................................ 191

Closing Session........................................................................................................................ 196


LIST OF PARTICIPANTS

 

 


RHAC Members

Dr. Michael Stoto, Chair

Dr. Paul Camacho

Dr. Ezdihar Hassoun

Dr. David Johnson

Dr. Sanford Leffingwell

Dr. Kwame Osei

Dr. Ronald Trewyn

 

FDA/NCTR Representatives

Dr. Leonard Schechtman

RHAC Executive Secretary

 

Ms. Kimberly Campbell

Management Specialist

 

Mr. Anthony Graves

 

U.S. Air Force Representatives

Col. Karen Fox

Lt. Susan Levy

Lt. Col. Julie Robinson

 

U.S. Air Force Contractors

Mr. Manuel Blancas

UDTech

 

Dr. William Grubbs

Science Applications International Corporation

 

Dr. Judson Miner

Operational Technologies Corporation

 

Dr. Maurice Owens

Science Applications International Corporation

 

Ms. Meghan Yeager

Science Applications International Corporation

 

Guest Presenters and

Members of the Public

Dr. David Butler

National Academy of Sciences

 

Ms. Sonia Cheruvillil

National Academy of Sciences

 

Ms. Jennifer Cohen

National Academy of Sciences

 

Ms. Amy O’Connor

National Academy of Sciences

 

Dr. Marian Pavuk

SpecPro, Inc.

 

Ms. Mary Paxton

National Academy of Sciences

 

Ms. Jaclyn Petrello

Exponent, Inc.

 

Dr. Robert Sills

National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences

 

Mr. Rick Weidman

Vietnam Veterans of America


 

 


DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES

FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION

NATIONAL CENTER FOR TOXICOLOGICAL RESEARCH

 

Ranch Hand Advisory Committee Meeting

November 18, 2005

Rockville, Maryland

 

Certified Verbatim Transcript

 

 

 


Text Box: Opening Session


 

 

 

 


 [CONVENE 8:34 A.M.]

            M. STOTO:  There we go.  Everyone, please remember to turn your microphone on before you speak.  I’m Mike Stoto, the Chair of the Committee.  I’d like to call the meeting to order.  David Butler, who’s going to be presenting the report from the Institute of Medicine needs to leave by a certain time, so I want to make sure we have that discussion and the subsequent discussion from the Air Force that relates to it as soon as possible.  So I think we’ll try to keep this first part relatively brief and come back later to finish up things that we might have to do otherwise.

            So let’s begin, if we could, by just going around the table and then the room with people introducing themselves.  I’m, as I said, I’m Mike Stoto, the Chair of the Committee and I work at the Rand Corporation.

            P. CAMACHO:  I’m Paul Camacho and I’m at the William Joiner Center at the University of Massachusetts.

            L. SCHECHTMAN:  Okay.  I’m Leonard Schechtman, FDA’s National Center for Toxicological Research, Deputy Director for Washington Operations, and the Executive Secretary of the Ranch Hands Committee.

            S. LEFFINGWELL:  Sanford Leffingwell.  I’m a consultant in occupational and environmental medicine, formerly with Centers for Disease Control.

            R. TREWYN:  Ron Trewyn, Kansas State.  I’m here to be as far away from Paul as possible so we behave ourselves today.

            D. JOHNSON:  Dave Johnson, Florida Department of Health, Executive Medical Director for the Division of Environmental Health and Acting State Epidemiologist.

            E. HASSOUN:  Ezdihar Hassoun, Professor of Toxicology, the University of Toledo.

            K. OSEI:  Kwame Osei, Professor of Medicine, Chair of Division of Endocrinology at Ohio State.

            R. SILLS:  Robert Sills, head of molecular pathology, National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences.

            J. ROBINSON:  Julie Robinson, I’m the Branch Chief for the Air Force Health Study.

            K. FOX:  Colonel Karen Fox, Principal Investigator for the Ranch Hand Study.

            K. CAMPBELL:  Kim Campbell, Food and Drug Administration.

            D. BUTLER:  David Butler, National Academy of Sciences, Institute of Medicine.

            M. OWENS:  Maurice Owens of Science Applications International Corporation.  I’m a Program Manager for the Ranch Hand support contract.

            J. MINER:  I’m Jay Miner, Operational Technologies.  I work in the Air Force Program Support Office.

            W. GRUBBS:  Bill Grubbs, also with SAIC.  I work with Dr. Owens.

            M. YEAGER:  Meghan Yeager, SAIC.

            M. PAVUK:  Marian Pavuk, SpecPro Corporation.  I work on the Air Force Health Study.

            S. LEVY:  Lieutenant Susan Levy.  I’m the Deputy Program Manager for Ranch Hand, the Human Systems Group, at Brooks City-Base.

            M. STOTO:  Okay.  Thank you, everyone.  Okay.  Did everyone get — introduce themselves?  Yes.  Okay.  Len, you want to begin with the household — housekeeping items?

            L. SCHECHTMAN:  Household is good.  Okay.  We’re — we don’t really have very many housekeeping items today.  We — I just want to inform you that we are going to have a working lunch so that we can get through this agenda and I will be reading the conflict of interest statement before we — before we get started.  But I do want to point out that I’d like everyone to be thinking about future meetings or meeting singular before the closure of the — of this effort.  So we will get to that item toward the end of the meeting, but please be thinking about it as we progress through today’s agenda.

            Okay.  The following announcement addresses the issue of conflict of interest with respect to this meeting and is made a part of the record to preclude even the appearance of such.  Based on the agenda submitted for today’s meeting, all such government employees have been screened for their financial interests related to the topics at hand.  FDA has determined that all financial interests and firms regulated by the Food and Drug Administration present no potential for a conflict of interest at this meeting.

            In the event that the discussions involve any other products or firms not already on the agenda for which a participant has a financial interest, the participants are aware of the need to be excluded from further participation.  Such an action will be noted for the record.  In the interest of fairness, all other guest participants are asked to address any current or previous financial involvement with any firm whose products upon which they wish to comment.

            M. STOTO:  Okay.  Thank you.  Since we don’t have any products, we’re talking about that’s not as relevant.  But conflict of interest is an important issue, so I’m glad that we had a chance to do that.  I think we’re going to hold the approval of the minutes until later so we can get right into the — into Dr. Butler’s presentation.  So David, if you’re ready?

Text Box: Update on the Air Force Health Study Disposition Study



 

 

 


            D. BUTLER:  Good morning, everyone, and thank you for accommodating my schedule by allowing me to present first thing this morning.  There we go.  I have prepared a set of slides; I also have copies of these slides should anyone need to take a look at them.  What I’m here to talk about is an interim letter report from the committee on the disposition on the Air Force Health Study, a National Academy of Sciences, Institute of Medicine study that was tasked to address the disposition of the AFHS.

            I will just run through these quickly since everyone has seen these slides before.  They’re our standard opening slides on what the National Academies is, and specifically, what the Institute of Medicine does.  As I’ve mentioned before, we have a process whereby we form volunteer committees of experts and write reports based on their systematic review of available scientific evidence.  Those reports are then subject to an external peer review.

            The Congress tasked us, and more specifically, tasked the Department of Veterans Affairs to ask us to address five separate topics related to the Ranch Hand Study:  the scientific merit of maintaining the data assets collected in the course of the study; whether or not any obstacles existed to maintaining those data assets; the advisability of providing independent oversight of those materials past the time of the scheduled end of the study and the mechanism for doing so; whether there should be any further study of these materials; the advisability of extending the study itself, and if so, who or what should be responsible for extending the study; and finally, the advisability of making the materials collected in the course of the study available to outside researchers.

            In order to accomplish this task, the committee on the disposition of the Air Force Health Study was formed.  You’ll see the names of the individuals there.  Their expertise ranges from epidemiology through biostatistics, occupational environmental medicine and bioethics.

            The interim letter report that I’m talking about today is a very small document and it’ll probably take longer for me to talk about it than it would take for you to just sit down and read it.  It is a highly focused document that addresses only one component of that charge that I just ran through a moment ago, specifically whether or not any obstacles exist to retaining and maintaining the electronic data, the paper records that have been rendered in pdf form, and the laboratory specimens that have been collected in the course of the study.

            The committee — and you’ll note most of what I have here is in quotes both because it makes sure that I get things across clearly and also because it saves me trying to rewrite what’s already been written anyway.  The committee thought it was important to offer its findings, conclusions and recommendations on this topic alone because they were aware of the fact that the time clock on the study is running very rapidly and very loudly at the moment.  And they wanted to make sure that their recommendations would have a chance to be considered while the individuals, the investigators with the AFHS who are most familiar with those data assets and the funding to support them were still available.

            In gathering information for this letter report — and I should add the final report that we’re working on — the committee held meetings earlier this year, including workshops where we invited parties, including Dr. Stoto, to come and talk with us and also conducted a subcommittee visit to the research facilities in San Antonio in May.  We also asked a number of questions to the AFHS staff, which they were terribly patient about answering.  And we really appreciate all of the efforts that they have put forward to make sure that we got all of the information that we requested.

            Two working groups went to San Antonio and they looked separately at the data and at the laboratory specimens.  I’ll start out with the bottom line and then just drop down into a little bit of detail that’s in the report.  The bottom line was that the committee found that the data and the specimens had been maintained at the level typical of most epidemiological research.

            Now because this is a study that’s gone on for so very long, the state-of-the-art has changed over the time; computer programs have changed; the ability to manage data electronically have changed over time.  And as a result, you have a data set which was collected at various points in history and is in various states of electronic documentation.  The subcommittee noted that study personnel weren’t tasked with rendering all of those data assets accessible to outside research — researchers over time and that their findings concerning it should not be viewed as a criticism of the AFHS staff.

            Instead, what they found were a set of working principles for managing and analyzing the data and specimens that works very well for the AFHS investigators.  Every — the committees, the subcommittees asked staff to go through a series of exercises that were intended to elicit how easy it would be to access certain data and to analyze that data.  To do so, what they did is they asked staff to write a small SAS program to randomly draw case numbers from five of — five Ranch Hands and five comparison subjects and use those case numbers as sort of the example population for the particular exercises.

            In the course of going through those exercises, the committee found that data, especially data that had been collected earlier in the studies wasn’t necessarily documented in electronic forms.  So if you were wondering what particular code was associated with a variable that had been collected in an early stage of the study, you might pull out a book where it had been — that information had been hand-annotated.

            Over the course of the study, the collection of variables changed.  Variables that might have the same name over the course of the study might’ve been coded in different ways over its history.  That’s, again, researchers responding to the incentives and the local conditions when they were doing the work rather than looking to do some grand overarching data set.

            With the laboratory specimens, a system has evolved whereby the data were, at the time the committee was there in May, where you had to go through a two-step look-up process to find a particular sample:  both consulting an original database and then consulting exceptions to that database that had occurred over time as specimens had changed because a particular freezer might’ve failed or a specimen otherwise had to be moved.

            The committee found, after its review of the subcommittee information and its review of the reports and other documentation that had been prepared over the course of the study, that the medical records, other study data and laboratory specimens — you’ll notice I echo those words because those are the words that are in the charge — collected in the course of the study have been properly maintained.  But they are not currently organized or documented in a manner that would allow them to be easily understood, evaluated, managed or analyzed by persons outside of the AFHS.

            Therefore, the committee concluded, again addressing a specific item in the charge, the present state of the documentation and organization is an obstacle to retaining and maintaining these materials once the currently scheduled termination date of the study occurs.  The committee therefore formed a primary recommendation that actions should be taken prior to the scheduled termination date to reorganize and document the data assets in a form and format that does allow them to be easily understood, evaluated, managed or analyzed by people outside of the AFHS staff.

            It proposed a number of specific recommendations separately addressing the electronic and paper records that have been rendered in pdf form and the laboratory specimens.  For the data, first of all, they proposed that a comprehensive inventory of master data files be created.  Let me explain what that means.  Over the course of the study, a rather large number of data files had been collected or generated.  These include the raw data files that were the original input for these data, the cleaned up version to those files that were used for — as the basis of analyses, and files that were generated in the course of particular analyses.

            What the committee refers to as “master data files” be the — that subset, that small subset of the rather large number of files generated over the course of the study that staff consider to be the definitive files, the files you would start every study with if you were going to conduct a new study.  And what they’re asking here is that those files simply be identified in a clear manner and inventoried.  So if one wanted to look at pulmonary assessment data from Cycle 3, you’d be able to pick up a book and immediately say this is the definitive file you would use to study those data.

            Second, to create a comprehensive inventory of the variables contained in the master data files.  Now this is something that has been done over the course of the study, but not necessarily consistently over the course of the study.  The committee wanted to make it clear that a number of their recommendations stemmed from looking at materials that had been prepared as part of one cycle’s examination or another, but weren’t necessarily identifiable in easy — in an easy way in other cycles.

            A comprehensive inventory of variables — the data dictionary that was produced for the Cycle 6 examination is an example of the document that they’re looking for there:  something that tells you what the variable names were, what the descriptions are, what the codes were used — the codes that were used to summarize the data that were collected and the like.

            A master data code book containing the name of data variables — this is basically a document that would be generated from the requests above it, simply having sort of a one-stop shop where the files and the variables were associated in a single document so that somebody looking to do a particular analysis over time or of a particular cycle would be able to identify those pieces of information they needed in order to do the work.

            Finally, for the documents that have been scanned into image pdf files, a document containing the content, format and location of those materials.  Again, what we’re not talking about is something where you go through the — Joel liked to talk about the “linear mile” of paper — not a document that goes through every last piece of paper there, but simply the type of materials that the AFHS investigators prepared in response to questions to us when we asked about how those information — that information had been inventoried to begin with.

            This is not an effort, the committee wants to make clear, where it believes you would need to go back through every one of the thousands of data files or the thousands of reports and rewrite them or make every last piece of information consistent.  Instead, this is a documentation effort:  take those key pieces of information, the key documents which have, in some cases, already been prepared, and identify them clearly and say this is the definitive piece of information you want to pick up if this is the thing you want to analyze in the future.

            As I said, the committee noted that some of these documents already exist in some form and the documentation for the later examination cycles exhibits many of the features that the committee suggests.  The concern — their concern is simply that information for all the cycles be compiled into easily identified, definitive reference documents with uniform information content.  And what I didn’t write down here, but which the committee suggested, is that these be in an electronic form, searchable pdf files, for example, that would facilitate someone finding a particular piece of information that they were looking for.

            The committee also had a few suggestions regarding laboratory specimens.  Let me cut to the bottom line here before I go through these.  These recommendations were based on the state of the laboratory specimens at the time the committee visited.  The committee understands that since then, there has been a reorganization of those samples which addresses many of the items that are spoken of in the report:  to do an inventory and create a single specimen database.

            The committee also suggests to compile the information regarding specimen history into a reference database.  If someone is going to — were to want to analyze these specimens in the future, they would want to know what the specimen history was to be confident that they could do good analysis work and to compile all the protocols regarding the receipt, the maintenance, the dispersal and the return of the specimens where specimens had been sent out to other investigators and have not yet been destroyed into a single reference document to document the status of those to performed — perform the planned re-assay to aid in the evaluation of specimen stability and condition.

            We’re looking forward to hearing the report on the progress on that today.  And simply in the reorganization, to make sure that individual samples are documented so that someone looking at them would know when they had been collected if there are any vials that aren’t already marked with that information.

            As I noted, the committee said that they were aware of the re-inventory and physical reorganization of the specimens and said that it was in agreement in the effort since it achieved the goals that it was looking for.  The committee drew one final recommendation concerning these.  We understand that the recommendations that are being offered are not costless and do involve time and staff commitments when there’s very little time left.

            The committee recommended that the Air Force, as custodian of the research materials, take responsibility to ensure their proper documentation and their organization for historic reasons, and also to allow the possibility of future use, and indicted that if available program funds weren’t sufficient to accomplish the actions that the committee recommended, that supplemental funding be provided to carry out such work in a complete and timely manner.

            This is only one small part of the committee’s final report on this topic, which is in advance stages of completion and which I’m working at basically on any moments that I’m not devoting to other things:  eating, sleeping and the like.  We are working to complete this report as quickly as possible and get it out so we can have conclusions on all of the topics that the committee was charged with addressing available for the consideration of the Congress and other parties.

            The complete report is posted for download at the National Academies Press web site.  That address will take you to a page that will allow you either to look at the report page-by-page on the web or allow you to download your own pdf copy of it after you provide your e-mail address or somebody’s e-mail address to NAP.

            And as before, this was part of a larger research effort regarding veterans’ health that the Institute of Medicine has been conducting at the behest of the Department of Veterans Affairs and others.  And we have a comprehensive web site which pulls all the information from these disparate projects together so that people looking for information can, we hope, find it easily.  That’s the end of my presentation.  I’d be happy to take questions.

            M. STOTO:  Okay.  Thank you very much, David.  Are there questions from the Committee?  Ron?

            R. TREWYN:  It would appear based on the fact that the recommendation at this early stage is to reformat both the, you know, some of the aspects reorganized for both the data and the specimens that we can probably anticipate at the end of this that there’s going to be a recommendation that the materials be maintained and be available to other than Air Force personnel.  Otherwise, this initial stage probably would not have been recommended early on.  Is that roughly a fair assumption?

            D. BUTLER:  Well, the committee makes clear in the interim letter report that it reaches no specific conclusion on that topic in this report.  It notes that whatever recommendations it offers and whatever policy decisions are taken in response to those recommendations, the committee believes there’s merit in doing a complete documentation of this data set.  If nothing else, the committee understands that the electronic and paper records are subject to review by the national archivists for p