UNITED STATES OF
AMERICA
FOOD AND DRUG
ADMINISTRATION
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NEUROLOGICAL DEVICES
PANEL
of the
MEDICAL DEVICES ADVISORY
COMMITTEE
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Seventeenth
Meeting
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TUESDAY
JUNE 15, 2004
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The
Panel met at 8:00 a.m. at the Holiday Inn Gaithersburg, Walker/Whetstone Rooms,
Two Montgomery Village Avenue, Gaithersburg, Maryland, Dr. Kyra J. Becker,
Chairperson, presiding.
PANEL MEMBERS PRESENT:
KYRA J. BECKER, M.D., Chairperson, University of
Washington
School of Medicine, Seattle, WA
ANDREW K. BALO, Industry Representative, DexCom,
Inc.
San
Diego, California
JONAS H. ELLENBERG, Ph.D., Voting Member, Westat,
Rockville,
Maryland
LAURA J. FOCHTMANN, M.D. Deputized Voting Member,
State
University of New York, Stony Brook, NY
ANNAPURNI JAYAM-TROUTH, M.D., Voting Member,
Howard
University
College of Medicine, Washington, DC
RICHARD P. MALONE, M.D., Deputized Voting Member,
MCP
Hanneman
University, Philadelphia, PA
IRENE E. ORTIZ, M.D., Deputized Voting Member,
University
of New Mexico, Albuquerque, NM
MARY LEE JENSEN, M.D., Director of Interventional
Neuroradiology,
University of Virginia
PANEL MEMBERS PRESENT:
(continued)
PHILIP S. WANG, M.D., MPH, Dr.PH, Deputized
Voting
Member,
Brigham and Women's Hospital, Boston,MA
CRISSY E. WELLS, R.T., MBA, MHSA, Consumer
Representative,
University of Virginia Health
Sciences
Center, Charlottesville, VA
ALSO PRESENT:
DELIA WITTEN, Ph.D., M.D., Food and Drug
Administration,
Division Director, General
Restorative
and Neurological Devices
SPONSOR PRESENTERS:
RICHARD L. RUDOLPH, M.D., Vice President,
Clinical and
Medical
Affairs and Chief Medical Officer,
Cyberonics
A. JOHN RUSH, M.D., Principal Investigator,
University
of
Dallas Southwestern MC, Dallas, TX
ALAN TOTAH, Vice President, Regulatory Affairs,
Cyberonics
FDA PRESENTERS:
CHANG LAO, Ph.D., Statistical Reviewer
CARLOS PENA, Ph.D., Neuroscientist, VNS Studies,
Efficacy
Reviewer
MICHAEL SCHLOSSER, M.D., Neurosurgeon, Safety
Reviewer
PUBLIC SPEAKERS:
MARNA DAVENTORT, patient in the study
CHARLES DONOVAN, patient in the study
COLLEEN KELLY, patient in the study
LYDIA LEWIS, President, Depression and Bipolar
Support
Alliance
KARMEN McGUFFEE, patient in the study
IRVIN J. MUSZYNSKI, J.D., Director of the Office
of
Health
Care Systems & Financing, American
Psychiatric
Association
LAURI SANDOVAL, patient in the study
I N D E X
AGENDA
ITEM PAGE
Call to Order 4
Conflict of Interest and Deputization
Panel Introductions
Update since February 23, 2004 Meeting
Theodore
Stevens, Chief, REDB
1st Open Public Hearing 13
Sponsor Presentation 63
Alan
Totah, Cyberonics, Inc.
A. John
Rush, U. of Texas Southwestern
Richard
L. Rudolph, Cyberonics
FDA Presentation
Carlos I. Pena, PhD 149
Michael J. Schlosser, M.D. 160
Chang S. Lao, Ph.D., Division
of 178
Biostatistics
Panel Deliberations 197
Philip
S. Wang, M.D., MPH, Dr.P.H.
2nd Public Hearing 368
FDA and Sponsor Summations 369
Panel Vote 385
Adjournment 433
P R O C E E D I N G
S
Time: 8:05 a.m.
MS.
SCUDIERO: Good morning. We are ready to begin now. Sorry for a little delay.
I
am Jan Scudiero. I am the Executive
Secretary of this panel and a reviewer in the Division of General Restorative
Neurological Devices.
The
usual housekeeping matters: If you
haven't signed in at the door, please do so, and pick up agendas and other
meeting related information.
Before
I turn over the meeting to Dr. Becker, I am required to read three statements
into the record. There are two
deputization of temporary voting member statements and a conflict of interest
statement that were prepared for this meeting.
The
first: Pursuant to the authority
granted under the Medical Devices Advisory Committee charter dated October 27,
1990, and amended April 20, 1995, I appoint the following person to be a voting
member of the Neurological Devices Panel for the duration of this meeting on
June 15, 2004: Laura Fochtmann, M.D.
For
the record, she is a Special Government Employee and is a consultant to this
panel or another panel under the Medical Devices Advisory Committee. She has undergone the customary conflict of
interest review and has reviewed the material to be considered at this
meeting. Signed by Daniel G. Schultz,
M.D., Acting Director, Center for Devices and Radiological Health, on June 9th
of this year.
The
other: Pursuant to the authority
granted under the Medical Devices Committee charter for the Center for Devices
and Radiological Health dated on October 27, 1990 and amended August 18, 1999,
I appoint the following individuals as voting members for the Neurological
Devices Panel for the meeting on June 15, 2004: Richard P. Malone, M.D., Irene E. Ortiz, M.D., Richard S. Wang,
M.D. MPH, Dr.Public Health.
For
the record, Doctors Malone, Ortiz and Wang are members of the
Psychopharmacologic Drugs Advisory Committee of the Center for Drug Evaluation
and Research. They are Special Government Employees who have undergone the
customary conflict of interest review and have reviewed the material to be
considered for this meeting. This is
signed by Peter J. Pitts, until recently the Associate Commissioner for
External Relations, on June 4th of this year.
The
conflict of interest statement: The
following announcement addresses conflict of interest issues associated with
this meeting and is made part of the record to preclude even the appearance of
an impropriety.
To
determine if any conflict existed, the agency reviewed the submitted agenda for
this meeting and all financial interests reported by the Committee
participants.
The
conflict of interest statutes prohibit Special Government Employees from
participating in matters that could affect their or their employers' financial
interest. However, the agency has determined that the participation of certain
members and consultants, the need for whose services outweighs the potential
conflict of interest involved, is in the best interest of the government.
Therefore,
waivers were granted to Doctors Kyra Jo Becker and Laura Fochtmann for their
interest in firms and issues that could potentially be affected by the panel's
recommendation.
Dr.
Becker's waiver involves an imputed interest, a contract to her institution for
the sponsor's study in which she has no involvement and is uncompensated. Dr. Becker's waiver allows her to
participate fully in today's deliberations.
Dr.
Fochtmann waiver involves a contract to her institution for the sponsor's study
in which she has no involvement and is uncompensated. Dr. Fochtmann waiver allows her to participate fully in today's
deliberations.
Copies
of these waivers may be obtained from the agency's Freedom of Information
Office, Room 12A-15 of the Parklawn Building.
We
would like to note for the record that the agency took into consideration
certain matters regarding Dr. Mary Jensen.
She reported an interest in a firm at issue but not in matters related
to today's agenda. The agency has
determined, therefore, that she may fully participate in all discussions.
In
the event that the discussions involve any other products or firms not already
on the agenda for which an FDA participant has a financial interest, the
participant should excuse himself or herself form such involvement, and the
exclusion will be noted for the record.
With
respect to all other participants, we ask, in the interest of fairness, that
all persons making statements or presentations disclose any current or previous
financial involvement with any firm whose products they may wish to comment
upon.
I
wish to announce that the August 5th and 6th tentatively scheduled meeting for
this Panel was canceled, because there is no agenda for a meeting. The remaining tentatively scheduled Panel
meeting for this calendar year is October 28th and 29th.
Please
remember that this is a tentative date, and monitor the CDRH Panel website for
updated Panel meeting information.
I
would now like to turn the meeting over to our Chairperson, Dr. Kyra Becker.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Good morning. My name is Kyra Becker, and I am the
Chairperson of this Neurological Devices Panel. I am a neurologist, and I practice at the University of
Washington in Seattle.
At
this meeting the panel will discuss, make recommendations and vote on a
recommendation to the Food and Drug Administration on the approvability of
premarket approval application supplement P970003/S50 for the Cyberonics Vagus
Nerve Stimulation Therapy System.
The
System is indicated for the adjunctive long term treatment of chronic or
recurrent depression for patients who are experiencing a major depressive
episode that has not had an adequate response to two or more antidepressant
treatments.
We
will have an open public hearing and the sponsor and FDA presentations before
lunch. After lunch, the Panel will
deliberate on the approvability of the PMA.
Before the Panel votes, there will be another open public hearing and a
time for the FDA and sponsor summations.
Before
we begin this meeting, I would like to ask for the Panel members, who are
generously giving their time to help the FDA in the matter at hand, and the
other FDA staff seated around this table to introduce themselves. I think we are going to start at this end of
the table, and I would like you to state your name, your area of expertise,
your position and your affiliation.
DR.
ELLENBERG: My name is Jonas
Ellenberg. I am a biostatistician. I am on staff at Westat, a social services
private research firm. I am a Vice
President and Senior Biostatistician.
DR.
JAYAM-TROUTH: I am Annapurni
Jayam-Trouth. I am the Chair of
Neurology at Howard University, Washington, D.C.
DR.
FOCHTMANN: I am Laura Fochtmann. I am a Professor in the Department of
Psychiatry at the State University of New York at Stony Brook.
DR.
WANG: I am Philip Wang, a psychiatrist
and epidemiologist at Harvard Medical School.
DR.
JENSEN: I am Mary Lee Jensen. I am Director of Interventional
Neuroradiology and a Professor of Radiology and Neurosurgery at the University
of Virginia.
DR.
ORTIZ: I am Irene Ortiz. I am a geriatric psychiatrist at the
University of New Mexico and with the Albuquerque BA.
DR.
MALONE: I am Richard Malone. I am a psychiatrist and professor of
psychiatry at Drexel University, College of Medicine.
MS.
WELLS: I'm Chris Wells, and I am the
Consumer Representative on this Panel.
MR.
BALO: I am Andy Balo, the industry rep,
but I am Vice President of Regulatory Clinical at DexCom, Inc., in San Diego.
DR.
WITTEN: Celia Witten. I am Division Director of the reviewing
division for this product at FDA.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Thank you. I would like to note for the record that the
voting members here at the Panel constitute a quorum as required by 21 CFR Part
14.
Next
Mr. Theodore Stevens, Chief of the
Restorative Devices Branch, will update the Panel on several matters
deliberated on at the last meeting of the Panel on February 23, 2004. Mr. Stevens.
MR.
STEVENS: Okay. I don't seem to have slides going here on
the screen.
Hi. I am Ted Stevens. I am the Chief of the Restorative Devices Branch, and I will be
giving a very brief update on the devices that were reviewed by this Panel
previously.
At
the February meeting there was advice given to the reviewing branch on the
concentric medical Mercy device that remains under review in the General
Surgical Devices Branch at FDA.
We
have also recently published a draft guidance and a Federal Register notice for
availability of vascular and neurovascular embolization devices. The comment period for that draft guidance
ended on May 25th.
Finally,
several devices have been cleared that are reviewed under the Orthopedic
Devices Panel, but because they are devices that are also used by neurosurgeons
and interventional radiologists, I thought it would be appropriate to mention
them here.
We
have recently cleared several PMMA cements for use in pathological fractures of
the vertebral body. These 510k's were
cleared based on the reclassification of PMMA bone cements. That included pathological fractures in
general for the specific indication of vertebral body fractures. These 510k's included clinical data from the
literature.
That
concludes the update.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Thank you, Mr. Stevens. At this time we will proceed to the open
public hearing portion of the meeting.
We ask at this time that all persons addressing the Panel speak clearly
into the microphone, as the transcriptionist is dependent on this means of
providing an accurate record of the meeting.
Ms.
Scudiero will now read a statement prepared for the open public hearings.
MS.
SCUDIERO: Both the Food and Drug
Administration and the public believe in a transparent process for information
gathering and decision making. To
ensure such transparency at open public hearing sessions of the Advisory
Committee meeting, FDA believes that it is important to understand the context
of any individual's participation.
For
this reason, FDA encourages you, the open public hearing speaker, at the
beginning of your statement to advise the committee of any financial
relationship that you may have with the sponsor, its product and, if known, its
direct competitors.
For
example, this financial information may include the sponsor's payment of your
travel, lodging or other expenses in connection with your attendance at the
meeting.
Likewise,
FDA encourages you at the beginning of your statement to advise the committee
if you do not have any such financial relationship. If you choose not to address the issue of financial relationships
at the beginning of the statement, it will not preclude you from speaking.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Prior to the meeting, there
were seven requests to speak in the open public hearing, and each person has
ten minutes to address the panel. They
will speak in the order that the FDA received their requests to present to the
panel.
Ms.
Colleen Kelly, who is a patient in the study, will be the first speaker, if you
want to come forward.
MS.
KELLY: Hi. Is it possible for me to sit?
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Certainly, yes.
MS.
KELLY: You can hear me okay? Thank you.
I am Patient 012 from Site 050 of the D-O1 study for Vagus Nerve
Stimulation for the treatment of major depressive disorder. I am here unsolicited to ask you to approve
the VNS in its application to depression.
I
was not approached by my study site nor by Cyberonics to speak to this
panel. I am here upon my own accord,
inspired by my own experience, and
driven by the necessity that viable alternatives must be offered to
persons suffering from treatment resistant depression.
I
have secured and paid for my own travel here.
In fact, it would behoove me financially if this panel stalled he
approval process. I have had the device
for four and a half years and, based on my parameter settings, replacement
surgery is imminent.
As
long as I am in the study and as long as the study lingers, Cyberonics will be
responsible for the cost of replacing my generator battery. So, actually, I am shooting myself in my
financial foot by encouraging you to approve this device. Upon approval, I would become completely
responsible medically and financially.
That
said, my case and testimony may be of particular interest to this panel. I went into the study on no medications,
remained off medications throughout the study, and am still on no medications.
There
is no other explanation for my response other than the device itself. It is good science. Turn the device up; I respond. Turn the device down; I decline.
Let
me assure you that my stoicism with medications is not noncompliance. Neither is it an indicator that I am only
mildly affected with the illness and, therefore, can exist without medications. In short, I had exhausted them as well as
every other treatment currently available to people with illness at this level,
as did so many of my peers in this study.
I
realize that most on this Panel and most in attendance here are experts in
their field, be it neurology, psychology, psychiatry, or mental health
administration; but there is one thing I can offer you about which you may know
nothing. That is first hand knowledge
of what it is like to have severe recalcitrant depression.
To
do so, I ask you to imagine the unimaginable, to think the unthinkable, to
experience second degree emotional burns with third degree prognosis. All you experience is pain, but with no
cure. In fact, there is no viable
treatment.
You
can attempt to salve it. Only death
solves it. But the medical community
does not accept death as a cure. It
asks us to continue to hang on and to continue to live, yet offers us no viable
treatments. Trust me, it is not that we
don't want to live. It is that we don't
want to live like this.
Our
illness is embedded in our physical bodies, ourselves. We are prisoners there, and our sentence is
life. Menacing insomnia, isolation,
fear, anxiety, sadness, hopelessness, general malaise, malingering fatigue,
physical exhaustion, apathy, lack of motivation, concentration and focus,
absence of pleasure, amplification of pain, agitation, sensitivity to
criticism, thoughts that life isn't worth living -- You are all familiar with
this short sheeted laundry list of symptoms.
Now
imagine having them all at once.
Imagine passing from one room to another in the house of pain where some
symptoms are more prevalent than others, sometimes exacerbated by the very
medications that were meant to alleviate them.
I
will not bore you with the details of the pharmacopoeia that I have tried and
then have failed, not to mention the acupuncture, homeopathy, herbal remedies,
extreme dietary changes and supplements, light therapy, counseling, yoga and,
of course, religion. What god would let
a child suffer like this?
Then
comes the inevitable, electroconvulsive therapy, ECT, a therapy so beyond the
vernacular that it doesn't even pass an automated spellcheck. I would stop at the word, too, but as a
person with treatment resistant depression, I could not stop.
I
relented to this FDA approved treatment as a last resort. Average session: Three to five treatments.
I had 33 nearly consecutive treatments.
I lost retrograde 20 years of my life through memory loss, a dismal
blessing. At least I could not remember
the horrific pain that preceded it for years.
I
asked you to imagine the unimaginable, to think the unthinkable. I also mentioned that you are experts in
your field. What if, after battling an
abusive lifelong illness, after enduring medication where side effects trumped
minimal benefit, after relenting to a final last resort -- what if all that is
wiped out? You are etherized on a
tabula rasa, alive, yes, but no more FDA hearings, no more status, no more
career. No more. Someone helps you remember where the soap is
kept and helps you into the shower.
I
am not here to blast the approval of ECT.
Obviously enough, for better or worse, I am still here. I am here, however, to say that I am here
today because of the VNS, and I ask you what do you offer someone after the
last resort? What do you offer someone
for whom ECT has failed?
I
had an experimental study. What will
the next guy get?
I
would be remiss if I did not mention the epileptic community who has blazoned
the way for efficacy and safety of the VNS device. For that, I am grateful.
They
have shown us the risks and side effects involved since the FDA approved the
device for them in 1997, and my personal heartfelt thanks go to those who
engaged in experimental implantation even prior to that date. I offer my gratitude, and I share their
cautious hope.
I
would also like to thank them for their honesty and candor, which I found on
the Cyberonics bulletin board. Without
their shared experience, I know for a fact I would not have attained the
success I have had with this device.
I
followed their histories. I tracked and
evaluated their settings and results, and I searched and researched my side
effects and remedies through their personal experiences. Their trial and error resulted in my trial
and success.
Because
of what I learned on the chat board, I was eager to boost my amplitude to
higher than 1.0 in the first three weeks of the initial depression study, and
keep my settings above what later became known as efficacy threshold. As a result, I was one of the first to
respond at my study site, and I continue to reap benefit from the device.
I
encourage Cyberonics to reopen their bulletin board. I understand the risks involved and the abuses that were made to
it, but I challenge the company to research and execute a safe environment
where patients can exchange information regarding this very new modality of
treatment, especially in its application to depression.
It
was critical in my success. I know it
would increase the success of others exploring the device as a possible
treatment.
I
am not going to idealize nor sentimentalize the device. I know I am one of a third who have
responded to it. I know there are
others who continue to suffer the burden of treatment resistant
depression. I see it in their faces as
I sit in the lobby and wait my turn at the site.
I
know that pain. I suffered it prior to
the VNS. Still, I have windows of it
now and again. I am passionate, yet
realistic, about the device. I do not
romanticize its results for me nor dismiss its lack of results for others. I am well aware of its side effects,
shortcomings, and its current experimental status. But I do know one thing.
We need viable treatment options for those with recalcitrant depression,
and VNS has worked for me.
In
closing, I encourage this Panel to let the mental health community, both
administrators and recipients, review the data and search the testimonies to
decide if this is an appropriate treatment for their patients, their loved
ones, themselves.
This
is an option only you can provide by approving the device for its application
to depression. Give us a choice, a
possible key, a parole to our life sentences of depression. Thank you.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Thank you, Ms. Kelly.
Our
next speaker will be Ms. Lydia Lewis, who is President of the Depression and
Bipolar Support Alliance.
MS.
LEWIS: Good morning. I want to thank the Advisory Panel for this
opportunity to talk about the critical issue of treatment resistant depression. I am Lydia Lewis, and I am here as President
of the Depression and Bipolar Support Alliance, a national patient-run advocacy
organization representing the more than 25 million people living with
depression and bipolar disorder.
I
did not receive any financial support nor do I have any financial arrangement
with any company for my work on behalf of patients with mood disorders. The Depression and Bipolar Support Alliance
does, however, receive financial support in the form of program grants,
honoraria, consulting fees or in-kind donations from Cyberonics, Inc. and a
number of pharmaceutical companies. My
travel to Maryland today was not paid for by Cyberonics, and I am not here to
advocate for any particular therapy, including VNS, but rather for the critical
need for new therapies.
While
I have suffered from treatment resistant depression for my entire life and I
have taken more than 20 different medications over the past 36 years, I am not
here to tell my story. I am here to
represent the millions of people with mood disorders who can't get well, people
who desperately need better medications and treatment modalities other than
pharmaceuticals.
Just
about 4 million people directly contact DBSA every year. Connecting with millions touched in some way
by Depression and Bipolar Support Alliance -- by depression and bipolar support
make us particularly qualified to speak on their behalf.
As
we all know, more than 30,000 people in the United States take their lives
every year, not because they are weak or because they have a character flaw.
They take their lives because they do not respond to any of the treatments
currently available for depression or bipolar disorder.
At
DBSA we know that new drugs and nonpharmacologic treatments are desperately
needed. Far too many people are dying
or living lives of quiet desperation, because they can't get sufficient relief
form their symptoms of depression. The
more treatments the FDA makes available, the more lives that will be saved.
Today
I want to put a human face on the tragedy of treatment resistant
depression. We can talk science all we
want, but science will never drive home the devastating consequences our
illnesses can have, if they are not treated.
The
human face I want to share today is Barbie's, and I have given you all a
picture of Barbie. It is on the last
page of my testimony, and it is important, if you would, to look at this while
I speak.
Barbie
has three kids, two girls and a boy.
She works as an oncology nurse.
She is very patient, very smart, very kind, very funny, and very gentle. She is the nurse of choice, requested by
more doctors when they admit a patient onto her unit.
People
report that her care made the difference in their fight with cancer. Barbie was finally diagnosed with bipolar
disorder after having been treated for depression for more than 15 years. She has been hospitalized five times for her
depression.
The
first two times her insurance covered some of the costs. The last three times it covered
nothing. She has run through all of her
retirement savings. Her last
hospitalization was at a state facility and, although many of them are quite
good, this one was so horrible and so scarring that she refuses to ever be
hospitalized again.
She
runs through the insurance money for her medication within the first two months
of every year. Her parents use much of
their retirement savings to help pay for her meds, and her siblings contribute
as much as they can.
She
has been prescribed a variety of medications.
Sometimes she shakes. Sometimes
she drools. A time or two she has found
herself somewhere with no idea how she got there, because her mind was so fuzzy
from her medication.
She
balloons up in weight even though she eats next to nothing. She has no appetite at all. It is hard to find a nurse's uniform that
fits. She gets very little sleep, 15
minutes, an hour at a time, no more.
But she also can't concentrate enough to watch TV, read a book or
anything else. So she lies there
worrying, thinking about the patients she is trying to care for, even though
she herself is very, very ill.
Once
a week she summons up all her courage and drives, shaking and drooling, to a
therapist more than an hour away. There
is none closer. Every month it takes
even more courage to drive two hours away to see her psychiatrist for 15 to 20
minutes. There is none closer.
They
do the best they can to treat her at reduced fees, but she can still barely pay
for their time, and nothing helps.
Quite simply, her life is hell.
She can't sleep. She can't
eat. Her phone rings with
creditors. She feels bad and ashamed
about what her family has been forced to go through with her.
Her
medication barely touches her symptoms, and because of her illness, everything
she does takes tremendous courage. Let
me tell you, it is exhausting to never get better. When no treatment works or you can't afford something that does,
you can reach a place where there doesn't seem to be any exit.
If
you haven't been there yourself, count yourself lucky. I have been there, and it is dark and full
of pain and hopelessness. It is joyless
and a place where nothing matters.
You
can be young or old, beautiful or plain, rich or poor, erudite or
illiterate. Everyone who ends up in
this place feels the shame. It's hell
on earth.
Barbie
found herself in this place, because no matter how hard the doctors tried,
nothing helped; and regardless of her kids, her husband, her wonderful parents
and siblings, and the job she found so important, the despair of that place was
too overwhelming.
Barbie
isn't just any patient to me. She is my
co-worker's sister, and I am sorry that we never met, because I know I really
would have liked her. Barbie took her
life three months after this picture was taken. She was 49 years old.
It
is a profound honor to speak for Barbie who can no longer do so, and I hope her
death will have some purpose. No one
should have to live with pain like Barbie's.
No one's family should have to suffer like hers, impotent to help
through the long journey of one failed treatment after another.s
The
suffering doesn't end when someone's life ends. Barbie's loved ones still suffer, because even in this day and
age, there was nothing that could keep her from that dark place.
Tragically,
aspects of Barbie's story still ring true for so many. No one's life should be wasted or ended
because efficacious treatment isn't available.
This is why we are all here.
This is why we all must remain here.
It
is too late for Barbie, but it is not too late for us to learn from her life
and from her death. Her struggles and
loss should inspire all of us to work tirelessly to bring better treatments to
the millions of Barbies still suffering.
That
is why I am here today, and why I am asking the FDA to remember those of us who
desperately need better treatments. It
is a race against time, and I ask you on behalf of the millions of people
suffering with treatment resistant depression to please do everything you can
to help us. Thank you.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Thank you, Ms. Lewis. The next speaker will be Ms. Laurie
Sandoval, who is also a patient in the Cyberonics study.
(A
SHORT VIDEO WAS SHOWN.)
MS.
SANDOVAL: First of all, I have had no
financial involvement with Cyberonics except travel and hotel accommodations.
Someone
once said depression is like being a prisoner of the mind. It could not have been said better except in
that prison I was in solitary confinement.
The
video you just saw was me five years ago.
No longer able to keep my depression at bay, I had just resigned the job
of my dreams and lost any hope of living.
At that time I was under the care of Dr. Lauren Marengel of Baylor
Medical College for treatment resistant depression in which medications,
therapy and, in some cases, electric convulsive therapy had not worked.
Dr.
Marengel explained an experimental study for depression that Baylor was
undertaking with Cyberonics using a vagus nerve stimulator device, and would I
be interested in participating. Sign me
up yesterday, Doc.
Living
in Nevada and without -- and having the VNS device five years now, life had
been wonderfully normal, without suicidal depression. That is until three months ago.
I
started feeling down, rarely leaving the house, turning off the phone, and only
getting out of bed to let the dogs out.
Normally, when the VNS device goes off, it causes a tickling sensation
in the throat, but latterly there was no sensation at all, and I prayed the
battery was dead.
Calling
Dr. Marengel's office, they couldn't say for sure if the device wasn't working
until the battery was tested. My
appointment wasn't scheduled for another month, and I wondered if i could hold
on that long. I was once again a
prisoner of the mind.
In
Houston, I told the doctors I felt desperate, and my only hope was that the
depression was being caused because the VNS battery died. Scared, I checked myself into Methodist
Hospital psychiatric ward.
The
good news is two days later, thanks to the incredible teams at Baylor and
Cyberonics, I had surgery for a new and improved VNS device. This battery is expected to last eight to
ten years.
Every
day I wake up with a bead of joy in my heart, or maybe that's the pulse of my
new battery. Anyway, I have no doubt
that, if it were not for Cyberonics' innovation and Baylor's tireless
dedication, I would not be here today.
Thank you.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Thank you, Ms. Sandoval. I want to apologize up front if I
mispronounce the next speaker's name, Mr. Irvin Muszynski, who is the Director
of the Office of Health Care Systems & Financing of the American
Psychiatric Association.
MR.
MUSZYNSKI: Your pronunciation is
perfect. Thank you.
Good
morning, and I, too, would like to thank you for the opportunity to offer a few
remarks here this morning about your considerations about the Cyberonics
application.
As
indicated, my name is Irvin Muszynski. I am the Director of the Office of
Health Care Systems & Financing at the American Psychiatric
Association. In that capacity, my key
job responsibilities are ongoing liaison on behalf of the psychiatric community
and its patients, with third party patients in both the public and private
sector. That includes employers. It includes Medicare and Medicaid, insurance
companies, both health and disability.
In
that capacity, I would simply indicate to you that the question of chronic
mental illness conditions, particular the depressive disorders, is a recurring
issue in questions I get -- or I get questioned about all the time, and what
can the psychiatric community do, and so on.
In
fact, part of my monitoring of the evolution of the vagus nerve stimulation approach
was stimulated in large part by interactions with disability insurers who face
the burden and the consequences of recurring or treatment resistant depression
on an ongoing basis.
So
what I wanted to do here with you today is just briefly highlight the problem
and its prevalence from our point of view and, secondly, to talk a little bit
about the burdens and costs associated with major depressive disorder,
treatment resistant depression, however we want to characterize or define that.
That
is from the patient, the payer, the purchaser point of view. I think all three -- Rather than qualify it
every time, let's just suggest that it is on behalf of all three, albeit they
all have different kinds of interests, and I think you have heard some
compelling stories about the patient point of view and, I think, what becomes a
self-evident need or an overwhelming need to address the need for new
treatments to begin to better help manage chronic conditions in a way that
people's functioning can be restored and/or recovery is, in fact, completely
enabled.
Respecting
disclosure, I have absolutely no current or previous financial relationship or
interest in Cyberonics. I think
probably my travel is not paid for here, and so on and so forth. I think probably the only thing that would
be maybe appropriate to indicate in the context of the conflict of interest is
Cyberonics advertises in APA journals and publications, as does a number of its
competitors that would be on the psychopharmacology side of the house. But other than that, there is no direct
interest.
So
briefly, what I want to do is highlight the problem, and some of this you may
well be aware of. So I don't want to be
overly redundant. But as you know,
depression is a diagnosable mental medical condition.
The
American Psychiatric Association has developed the DSM-4TR. The criteria which surround the nature and
diagnosis of depression are well established, continually refined, and
furthered by the Association and the medical community at large. So there is nothing new about that.
Its
prevalence, as you probably may well be aware, I will rely on National
Institute of Mental Health indications of prevalence which show that seven to
ten percent of the United States population at any given time suffers from a
diagnosable depressive disorder.
As
you know, many patients are treated successfully at first line attempts. Depression is a eminently treatable disease,
but the issue on the table for us and under consideration here is the
significant proportion of people who fail to reach acceptable levels of
functioning and wellbeing. That is the
population at issue.
I
will not pretend to tender -- I've reviewed literature on this subject, and I
think I can say conclusively, there is no one definition of treatment resistant
depression. Maybe it is failure of one
or two psychopharmacological interventions within a period of six months, and
so on.
I
think the folks who spoke before me give you much more operational definitions
of what major depressive disorder or treatment resistant depression is. But in any case, treatment resistance, from
my point of view, refers to the absence of an acceptable clinical outcome; that
is, sustained remission, defined in terms of depressive symptoms, severity or
daily function to one or more prior adequate treatments.
So
when we subdivide the entire U.S. population of seven to ten percent that have
a diagnosable depressive disorder, of that group there are various ranges of
who really would be defined, if you will, as the treatment resistant
population, and the estimates range anywhere from 10 to 50 percent, depending
on the literature review.
Let's
say the reasonable man standard would be somewhere in the middle. So 20 to 30 percent of those with a
diagnosable depressive disorder simply don't respond, do not have sustained
remission, and the human and economic consequences of that, I think, are kind
of self-evident, and I will speak to them a little bit more here in a moment.
Let's
look at the consequences then from the human, the patient, point of view. I won't elaborate on that. I think you just heard it, but also from the
economic point of view. Here, I want to
again reemphasize, my job, my role as an advocate in the psychiatric community
both for psychiatrists as medical clinicians who treat this disorder, but also
based on the interaction I do with those who underwrite health insurance and
disability insurance, and also employers as purchasers who want their employees
back at the job functioning, or those who are in the public sector, whether on
Medicaid and/or Medicare or dual eligible population, who are interested in
some restoration of ability to resume some kind of reasonable life in the
community.
You
know, the mortality has a tremendous range with depression. It can start with suffering and anguish, but
it moves to job absenteeism, mistakes, loss of job, subsequent financial
distress. I think you have heard
personal testimonies to this, and it contributes to familial/marital discord
and community discord in a number of ways.
The
consequences of this from an economic point of view or burden point of view are
kind of striking. The average annual
cost of folks who are mildly resistant to treatment is easily double those for
those who are not resistant to treatment, and those who would be categorized by
the health services research literature who are severely resistant, if you
will, to treatment -- their average annual costs sometimes are fourfold those
who are not resistant to treatment at all.
This is an extraordinary clinical
challenge. It is an extraordinary
economic challenge, since half of the annual costs associated with treating
depression are accounted for by this population.
Not
only is health care utilization higher -- we can measure that by prescription
costs. We can measure it by
hospitalization rates. We can measure
it by outpatient visits and so on -- the impact is significant from a fiscal
point of view.
Then
there are also all sorts of indirect effects.
The type of workdays that are lost by individuals in the workplaces is
on average double those who are not diagnosed with a depressive disorder. The preponderance or the prevalence of
individuals on short and long term disability with major depressive disorders,
the cost of which is borne directly and indirectly by employers and others, is
significantly higher.
So
in sum, depression not only has a negative economic burden, but there is no way
to quantify the burden on the patient, their family and the community at large.
As
indicated with respect to disability, you may be familiar that the World Health
Organization now counts depression as the fourth leading cause of disability
worldwide. The trend is severely
upward, and the projections, if all things hold constant, is that within
roughly or so the next ten years it will become the number two or one cause
worldwide of disability.
The
United States in that respect is not a statistical anomaly. The trend is essentially -- It tracks the
world trends.
So
it is clinical and economic opportunity loss.
It hampers physicians to the extent that first, second line, third line
attempts cannot work, and the personal tragedy of suicide and loss of life is
untold.
I
think what these findings underscore is the need for early identification and
effective long term management of treatment resistant depression. And given the prevalence and the reality of
nonresponse often to first line treatment, the cost and burden and the residual
symptoms of nonremitting depression, we think there is a significant need for
new treatments.
I
am not here to opine on the science.
That is not my job, but I do think, from where I live in a day to day
world and the kinds of folks I deal with in the public and private sector,
whether insurers or purchasers or human resource individuals, that the
development of new treatments for this subset of the population diagnosed with
a depressive order would be a significantly welcome development, and I have no
doubts at all in thinking that the cost/benefit to all of us will be quite
positive in the end. Thank you.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Thank you, Mr. Muszynski. Our next speaker will be Charles Donovan,
who is also a patient in the Cyberonics study.
MR.
DONOVAN: Good morning. First of all, Cyberonics did pay for my
airfare here, in coach, I might add, and for my lodging. However, I was not solicited by Cyberonics
or the study investigators to come. I
volunteered, and as a matter of fact, to volunteer I had to go through a third
party. The study investigators would
not allow Cyberonics to contact me. I
was not allowed to contact them.
What
I would like to do, if it is okay, is read a letter that I sent to the FDA in
support of the application and make a few comments. This is a letter that I wrote before I had any idea that I would
be here, let alone reading it out loud in a room full of people. It is dated May 10th, and it is addressed to
the Executive Secretary, Janet Scudiero.
"Dear
Doctors: I am a patient in the D-02
study, and I am writing to urge you to do everything possible in your power to
unconditionally approve the vagus nerve stimulator as a treatment for chronic
depression. It not just saved my life,
which I really didn't care about. It
changed my life.
"In
the spring of 1980 I graduated from Georgetown University -- ironically, less
than 30 minutes from where the panel meeting will take place. I also had my first major depressive episode
that spring.
"I
had accepted a job in the management training program of what is now J.P. Morgan
Chase and moved to New York City after graduation. I bounced back during that summer, but the depression was always
there, lurking in the background, and depressive episodes became more frequent
over time.
"To
keep this letter short, let's fast forward 15 years. In November of 1995 I eventually ended up in a lock-up unit of a
hospital. I have very little memory of
the details surrounding that hospitalization.
I can only assume that my family must have had the hell scared out of
them, and they didn't know what to do.
"In
1998, I was a 39-year-old man sobbing uncontrollably, hugging my parents in the
doctor's office after the psychiatrist recommended shock treatments. I had a series of 15 or so. The ECT treatments did not work nor did any
of the countless antidepressants I tried.
"In
late 1999, I was no longer able to work.
I don't know how I was able to continue to work as long as I did. I put up a long, hard fight, and it was a
big mistake. The physical toll and
mental toll that it took on my body was agonizing, and I am still recovering
physically.
"In
2001 I was implanted with a vagus nerve stimulator. In my final depression rating interview just prior to implant
with Raymond Tate, Ph.D. of St. Louis University, I simply told him that I
hoped I would die on the operating table.
Given the relative simplicity of the procedure, it was an irrational
thing to hope for, but dying would have been the ultimate escape.
"I
have no idea when the device was activated or how or when it was ramped
up. As recently as a few months go, the
study investigators told me that I may never know. All I can say is that my life is full of genuine happiness and
joy. I don't have to fake it anymore.
"I
have lost 30 pounds in the past 18 months.
I exercise regularly, swimming, Pilates, running. I am not ashamed to go to a shopping mall or
other public places for fear of being noticed.
"Last
Saturday night I attended a small dinner party that 18 months ago I never would
have gone to. I am also working on
several different projects. This is the
most productive I have been in many years.
"The
improvement in mood occurred very gradually over many months, but every morning
I wake up, and I still ask myself the same question: Is it the depression back?
And by the time I get in the shower, the answer is no.
"Because
the mood improvement was gradual, there was no dramatic epiphany. So at this point, I would have to say that
the most remarkable thing is the staying power of the therapy. It's like the Energizer battery. It keeps going and going.
"With
the information learned from the studies and the benefit of stimulation
strategy that new patients would have that I did not have, many desperate
patients could be helped. Unless you
have personally suffered from chronic depression, you cannot truly understand
it, but it is brutal.
"Again,
I encourage you to approve this relatively straightforward procedure for an
extremely gruesome disease. Please give
the option of vagus nerve stimulation therapy to those suffering patients who
are still searching for an answer, just as I had searched. Some desperate patients stop searching
forever."
Last
night as I was reading this letter out loud to kind of time it, terms like
chronic depression and treatment resistant depression are really slang for an
incurable disease or a disease that is becoming curable. I think that it diminishes the seriousness
of the level of the disease. It
diminishes the need for alternative therapies.
I
am guilty of it in this letter. I don't
adequately relay the day to day grind of white knuckling it. It is exhausting. And again, there is a casualness about the term chronic
depression, but the casualness is, in effect -- It is chaos. There is chaos in the family. There is chaos between brothers and sisters
and parents and husbands and wives.
I
know there was chaos in my family, but I don't know the half of it, because
there were certainly countless secret meetings amongst my family members
saying, what are we going to do with this guy?
It
takes a lot of work before you get the label, treatment resistant depression;
and when you get there, you are stuck.
In
2001 I was implanted with the vagus nerve stimulator, but in November of 2000 I
had my first meeting with the study investigators, and I remember it was a
small office, and the psychiatric nurse was next to me, and the lead doctor was
in the office.
I
said to the doctor, "What are the chances of this thing helping me? You know, what are the odds?" And he was very measured and cautious in his
response, and he basically said there is an inkling that there may or may not
be something to this device that could improve mood. And I said to myself, inkling?
I'll take it.
But
when you think about it, what was I supposed to say? What were the options?
Nothing. So the litmus test was
"inkling," and I think that is probably true of the 4 million
patients that suffer from chronic depression.
You
know, there's 20 million people with depression in the United States, and there
are 4 million that have chronic depression.
You're talking the bottom of the barrel, and the therapy that you are
deliberating about today is a therapy for people that are at the bottom of the
barrel.
I
just want to quickly mention, I encourage you to improve this relatively
straightforward procedure. During the first three months after implant, it was
clear I had absolutely no benefit from the device, but it was a very odd time,
because that was when my hoarseness was the worst.
People
would ask me, aren't you mad? And the
answer was no. Somebody was telling me
to stop. How long have I been talking?
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: A little over 10 minutes.
MR.
DONOVAN: The answer was no. I mean, I wasn't happy about the hoarseness,
but the hoarseness was completely subordinated to the hopes that the device
would work.
Very
quickly in one minute, some desperate patients stop searching forever. March 14, 2003: I found the body of my closest friend from seventh grade, dead. Thankfully, his brother, an M.D., was with
me. His body was laying between the
bathroom in the hallway, and his brother found on his bureau a bottle of
antidepressants, but his search stopped.
He ended his search.
A
year before that, another classmate -- we only had 40 -- put a bullet to his
head, a psychologist. And finally, at
the same time of the psychologist's death, the wife of my brother's boss, the
mother of seven children -- I spoke to her husband, Tony, last week. And unlike Barbie that Lydia talked about,
this family is a very prominent family in St. Louis, and they had access to
absolutely every possible thing out there.
Money was no object, and they went out on a nationwide search for help
for this beautiful, stunning woman, and they saw the freight train coming, and
there was nothing they could do about it until one of the seven children found
her hanging in the family home, dead at age 38.
So
I've gone over. If there's any
questions that you want to ask me as a patient, please do.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Thank you. Our next speaker will be Marna Daventort,
who is also a patient in the study.
MS.
DAVENTORT: After hearing everyone else
speak, it is really difficult to come up here and talk about this clinically,
because I had really a lot more prepared, but they have said it all. They are telling my story. Their lives have been my life.
I
want you to know that I am a person who can meet any challenge. I fly airplanes. I have a Ph.D. I ride
beautiful horses, and I ride them fast.
I can meet any challenge, but I couldn't beat depression, not with all
the knowledge that I could gain from studying it, and not with all the energy
that I could put into it.
I
can go over all the treatments I have been through, and I have been through it
all, every kind of therapy that you can think of and every drug that any of you
could think of prescribing to me, in experimental dosages often and in weird
combinations that sometimes even the doctors were afraid to try. But we had to try anything, because the
alternative is death, and people like me don't want to die.
I
have a wonderful life now. I have a
wonderful family. I never had drug or
alcohol problems. I never had weight
problems. I had no excuse whatsoever to
be depressed, and yet I was depressed.
I
think that that is what happens. A lot
of times, we look at people with depression, and we think that somehow they
could just do better. And I know that
you can't just do better.
One
reason I am here today, and Cyberonics paid my plane fare up -- It won't
compensate for the salary I have lost today, but I am here because I think it
is -- The single most important thing that I can do today is tell you that I
was implanted three year ago.
At
first there was really no dramatic result.
My family says that they saw results right away. I didn't, but over the next year, especially
when it became about the 18 month mark, I began to be the person that my family
used to know. My Dad said he had his
daughter back.
I
think that, with all else I could say, all I can say to you today is that this
worked for me, and the alternative for me, to put it bluntly, was to blow my
brains out.
So
I think that it would be unconscionable for you not to offer this treatment
option to people in my position. It has
never been proposed that it would be a first line of defense. It has never been proposed to be a
replacement for the drug therapy or for the resolution of psychological
problems.
All
we are asking for is that you make this an option to people who have no options
remaining. So I am not going to say
everything else I had to say, other than I do want to point out that in May,
since I have a compromised voice as a result of the surgery -- it comes and
goes -- we did turn the device off in May to see if I would get some relief
from the hoarseness for my voice; and I became depressed again.
I
began to have these feelings of impending doom, and I just thought to myself,
ah, you know, we can't go there again.
So I am turned back on, and nobody will turn this device off again
unless someone forces me to.
You
have to give this opportunity to other people.
That's the bottom line, and that's why I am here today. Thank you.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Thank you, Ms. Daventort. The final speaker will be Karmen McGuffee,
who is also a patient in the study.
MS.
McGUFFEE: While they are cuing the
video, I would like to state that Cyberonics has accommodated me, paid for my
accommodations and paid for my flight.
However, I did start a new job last week, and they were not pleased that
I would be gone for a couple of days.
So it has not benefitted me financially at all. The video.
(A
short video was shown.)
MS.
McGUFFEE: That was me a little over
five years ago. For me, it is very hard
to define my first episode with depression.
From the time I was three years old, I was a worrier. I worried about things that a toddler
doesn't need to worry about: Would my
sister die during the night?
In
kindergarten I drove my teachers crazy. When my parents wanted to take a short
trip, I insisted that they send books along with me so that I wouldn't fall
behind. When I was nine, I couldn't
sleep. I had nightmares constantly. I would go for days without sleeping. My mother says I would just lie in bed and
cry and twist the sheets in my hands until one, two, 3:00 a.m. in the morning.
My
mother tried everything that year, from traditional medicine to holistic
medicine. We made a lot of adjustments
in the family. It was not easy on them. All the doctors said there was nothing wrong
with me except my blood sugar.
During
my teen years, my family and friends thought that they were dealing with an
overweight hypoglycemic, and those were my two problems. But then by the time I was 18, I graduated
school with honors from high school. I
had a good job as a computer graphic artist and a quality control
coordinator.
I
had seen a psychotherapist, and a psychiatrist had prescribed Prozac. Six months later, I decided I was cured, and
I stopped. Shortly thereafter, I came
home from work quite late one night, and my mother found me in my room in the
fetal position on the floor, and I had scratched myself on my legs to the point
of bleeding.
After
a trip to the emergency room, I was admitted to the psych unit. I stayed there for six weeks. By the time I left, I was max'ed out on the
dosage of Prozac that was safe for my weight, but I also had to take a booster,
Tofranil.
Over
the next few years I took Parnate, an MAOI, Zoloft, Effexor, Paxil, Xanax,
Halcion and probably a few that I don't remember. There's a lot I don't remember.
Drugs would work for six months, if I was extremely fortunate, maybe a
year, and then they would have to spin that roulette wheel and come up with a
new combination.
I
was hospitalized several times. It was
like being in a very dark, downward tunnel.
I was sliding down, and I could not get out. As I mentioned, the impact on my family and friends was very
high. Friendships were always very
strained. I never had more than one
friend at a time, and I always chased them off. I have difficulty accomplishing the smallest tasks every
day.
I
required constant reassurance from everyone around me. My family said they felt as though they were
walking on egg shells. There was no
telling what they would say that would cause me to just crumple. Sometimes I could not be left by myself for
any amount of time.
When
I started dating my now husband, Jason, we addressed my depression, and he told
my parents, well, I've been around Karmen when she is sick; I know what I am in
for. And he admitted later that he had
no idea.
Sometimes
my husband's only goal in the morning was how do I get Karmen up? How do I get her out the door, because if I
could pick out my own clothes, I was doing good.
At
work I could still function, but my performance was extremely
unpredictable. My absenteeism was high,
and I had a caustic temper. It caused
me to be fired twice.
Just
prior to VNS implantation, I was taking five medications daily, seeing a
psychiatrist weekly. I was in weekly
group therapy, and ECT was next on the list.
From the drugs, I had a dry mouth constantly. The MAOI -- I once had a drug interaction that sent me to the
emergency room. I have had memory loss,
and I experienced massive weight gain.
Every
time I would relapse, it was very dangerous and very scary. Each pit was worse than the last, and I
always feared they would run out of drugs to try on me. Every suicidal thought that I ever had was
when the drugs quit working and I was back in that pit.
I
continued in anxious moments to scratch myself to bleeding. I have many scars on my body from that. In psychotherapy -- I mainly found that very
frustrating. Everyone there had a
reason for their depression, and I had a wonderful family, a healthy family, a
good support system.
I
used to tell my family, I wish that something bad had happened to me -- I had
been kidnapped and abused. At least
then I would have a reason to feel so bad.
So
about two weeks after that video I had the surgery. I was home that same afternoon, and I returned to work the same
week. My husband and mother first
noticed an improvement within three to six weeks. At first, they thought they were being overly optimistic.
My
mother said she felt like she was not looking into the eyes of a dead person
anymore. She has told the doctors, I
don't care what scale you use to measure depression; I can tell by looking in
Karmen's eyes. My husband said that the
dark funeral veil over my eyes was lifted, and he could see my eyes, and they
twinkled.
Today
I feel great. The only regular side
effect I experience is the hoarseness in my voice, which I don't even
notice. Whereas, I was taking five
medications a day for two and a half or three years, I was taking only
Wellbutrin. I was laid off of work
about ten months ago, and they added Lexapro, because I wasn't dealing with
that very well. It was not on my
terms. But prior to my unemployment, I
was even talking to my doctor about coming off of Wellbutrin.
I
do not believe that VNS therapy has cured me, but it has helped in ways that
words cannot express. I constantly
worry about will the depression return.
I
had a baby 17 months ago, and I was told at my first pregnancy appointment that
I was at very high risk for postpartum depression. I had about 11 days of it, more like the blues, and today I enjoy
my daughter thoroughly. I've gotten to
see her first steps, and I remember them.
Thanks
to VNS, I have clarity of mind. I can read books again, whereas I hadn't in
years. I don't sleep away my
weekends. I was able to research
gastric bypass surgery, and had that a little over three years ago. I have lost 226 pounds. I have a joyful and peaceful life, and my
family does, too, now.
In
closing, people ask me why would you cut yourself open and have something
foreign put in your neck and in your chest?
My response to them is always, I had nothing to lose.
Please
approve this therapy for treatment resistant depression, because it will give
both patients and their families something that they have probably lost, and
that is hope.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Thank you, Ms. McGuffee.
At
this point I would like to note for the record that three patients and family
members have written the FDA requesting that the agency approve the Cyberonics
VNS system, and a patient also wrote to the agency asking that it not approve
the VNS system.
Is
anyone else here who would like to speak to the Panel now? If so, raise your hand, and come forward to
the microphone. I would just like you
to state your name and affiliation when you come forward, and whether or not
you have any financial interest in Cyberonics.
MS.
BARRETT: My name is Mary Barrett. I've been back there trying to write this in
a hurry. I am in the D-02 study. I have no financial interest in Cyberonics
or its competitors, and no one paid for my trip here today.
I
originally had not planned on speaking, but I felt like, because I do have the
device and it is important to me that you consider it for approval, I just
wanted you to hear my story.
I
have been treated for major depressive disorder for over 20 years. I have tried almost every antidepressant
drug on the market and combination of meds.
Only one medication helped relieve my depression for about four years
until I developed an intolerable side effect and was no longer able to take the
drug.
Other
medications were of no help, and again caused intolerable side effects. I was implanted in February of 2001. It wasn't until the device parameters were
turned up to a higher level that I felt consistently better for the first time
since I was forced to stop taking the medication that worked.
I
volunteered for the study, because it was a last resort. I can only reiterate what previous speakers
have said about the pain of depression.
It permeates every cell of your brain.
It affects every aspect of your life, and it affects the people around
you.
This
past spring I have had surgery for breast cancer, radiation treatment, and a
major automobile accident, things that would cause people without depression to
become depressed. I know, had it not
been for the VNS, I would have never been able to get through these life
traumas.
The
VNS has helped me and others I know that have the device get their life back,
and I only ask that this device be made available as a choice for others with
this horrific illness. Thank you.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Thank you. is there anybody else who would like to
address the Panel now?
If
not, I think we will proceed to the sponsor's presentation on their vagus nerve
stimulation therapy system.
This
system is indicated for the adjunctive, long term treatment of chronic or
recurrent depression for patients who are experiencing a major depressive
episode that has not had an adequate response to two or more antidepressant
treatments.
I
would like to remind public observers at this meeting that, while the meeting
is open for public observation, public attendees may not participate except at
the specific request of the Panel.
We
will begin with the sponsor's presentations.
The first Cyberonics presenter is Mr. Alan Totah, Vice President of
Regulatory Affairs. He will then
introduce the other Cyberonics presenters.
Mr. Totah.
MR.
TOTAH: Good morning. On behalf of Cyberonics and people in the
United States living with treatment resistant depression, we thank you for
meeting with us today to review the proposed depression indication for VNS
therapy.
My
name is Alan Totah, and I am the Cyberonics Vice President of Regulatory
Affairs and Quality. I will begin
today's sponsor presentation with a brief overview of the agenda, today's
available presenters, VNS therapy system and regulatory history.
Dr.
John Rush, Professor and Betty Jo Hay Distinguished Chair, Department of
Psychiatry, UT Southwestern Medical Center, D-01 study investigator and D-02
principal investigator, will then summarize depression, treatment resistant
depression or TRD, and the unmet need for an FDA approved effective and
tolerable long term treatment for TRD.
Following
Dr. Rush, Dr. Richard Rudolph, Cyberonics Vice President of Clinical and
Medical Affairs, who prior to joining Cyberonics played a key role over a
16-year period in the development of the Effexor family of antidepressants at
Wyeth, will then present study design and analysis plan, effectiveness and
safety analysis, and the risks and benefits of VNS therapy. Dr. Rush will then provide closing remarks.
In
addition to Dr. Rush, six other outside experts are with us today, who will be
available for Q&A, representing psychiatry, biostatistics, and mechanism of
action.
They
are Doctors Harold Sackheim and Philip Ninan who are psychiatric investigators
representing D-01, D-02, D-04 and D-05 depression studies; Doctors Phil Lavori
and Sonia Davis who are providing expertise in biostatistics; and Doctors Tom
Henry and Mark George, who are providing mechanism of action expertise and
neuroimaging, and specifically VNS therapy PET and fMRI imaging.
In
addition to the outside experts, we have a number of Cyberonics medical
directors and directors here representing other disciplines to answer your
questions.
We
are here today to present to you the data that supports the safety and
effectiveness of the VNS therapy system as an adjunctive, long term treatment
of chronic or recurrent depression for patients over the age of 18 who are
experiencing a major depressive episode that has not had an adequate response
to two or more adequate antidepressant treatments, with specific definitions of
chronic and recurrent depression and failed adequate treatment.
There
are very few devices or drugs that are indicated specifically as adjunctive,
long term treatments, and there is no FDA approved safe and effective long term
treatment specifically for this level of chronic or recurrent treatment
resistant depression.
The
VNS therapy system, the programming parameters, and the implant technique used
in depression are the same as those approved and used in epilepsy. The generator is implanted just like a
simple bradycardia pulse generator, and a bipolar lead is simply tunneled under
the skin from the left vagus nerve where the lead electrodes are wrapped around
the nerve and then down to the generator.
I
am pointing out to you the generator.
This is the typical implant site.
We have a picture of the lead going up, and you can see this exploded
view of the electrodes which are wrapped around the left vagus nerve, and we
have the other elements or components of our system illustrated for you.
Typically,
the device is programmed on for 30 seconds and off for five minutes on a 24/7
schedule. The typical outpatient
surgery often lasts approximately one hour and is a low risk implant procedure,
and surgical complications are minimal.
A
magnet can be used by the patient to temporarily control side effects such as
voice alteration during public speaking or singing, if necessary.
From
an historical perspective, FDA's Neurological Devices Panel unanimously
recommended epilepsy approval in June of 1997, and the VNS therapy system was
approved by FDA on July 16, 1997. The
epilepsy safety number shown on this slide are at the time of the
application.
Today,
over 29,000 epilepsy patients have been treated with the VNS therapy system,
and we have accumulated a total of 72,000 patient years of experience.
Depression
studies were started, because clinical observations from epilepsy use and
findings from epilepsy, preclinical and human neuroimaging mechanism of action
studies suggested that VNS had a potential antidepressant effect. Depression studies began in 1998 following
IDE approval of a D-01 pilot study protocol.
Several
significant regulatory historical dates that followed are: In July 1999 when FDA granted expedited
review status; European CE Mark and Canadian commercial approvals were granted
for the depression indication in March and April of the year 2001, based upon
the D-01 results; and in January of 2002 the D-02 acute 12-week study results
were unblinded and analyzed.
The
primary endpoint did not reach statistical significance. However, the results did show a positive
trend in favor of VNS, and a key secondary endpoint was statistically
significant.
After
consideration of the acute results, the proposed indication for use and the
existing D-02 and D-04 protocols, a revised D-02 long term and D-02 versus D-04
standard of care prospective analysis plan was submitted to the FDA in
September of 2002. The FDA notified
Cyberonics that no manufacturing site inspection would be required, due to
Cyberonics good compliance history.
The
PMA Supplement was submitted and accepted for filing by the FDA on October 27,
2003. Since then Cyberonics has
completely responded to FDA's deficiency letter regarding this PMA application.
That
brings us to today's Panel meeting that is occurring just two weeks shy of the
seventh anniversary of the original epilepsy panel in June of 1997. During today's meeting Cyberonics is
prepared to address FDA's Panel questions and any questions the Panel members
may have.
These
are the studies that comprise the six-year depression program. Dr. Rudolph will present details in his
presentation. There was one important
revision during the program that you will hear about today.
For
clarity, let me describe the reason for the revision and what was changed. When the acute study endpoint did not reach
statistical significance despite a favorable trend, and significance on
secondary endpoints, we decided to provide a more definitive evaluation of long
term effectiveness by adding an active control for the D-02 outcomes.
The
sole change indicated on this slide by a double checkmark added a one-year
comparison of D-02 patients treated with adjunctive VNS plus standard of care
treatment with D-04 patients treated only with standard of care treatment.
The
existing D-04 protocol, which had been previously intended as a comparison with
D-02, was then formally added into the statistical plan as a long term active
control. This revised plan provided the
FDA with comprehensive one-year clinical data and analysis on 460 patients with
treatment resistant depression.
Cyberonics
and its team of outside clinical, statistical and regulatory experts deemed the
revised analysis plan the most appropriate for the determination of safety and
effectiveness for the proposed indication for use, after careful consideration
of the urgent unmet need for a long term treatment for TRD, which you certainly
heard about from our patients today.
They
consist of the following: First, the
nonsignificant yet encouraging results from the acute, sham control phase of
D-02; second, the increasing response rates seen over time in D-01 patients;
thirdly, the adjunctive, meaning VNS would be added onto currently available
standard of care treatments, long term proposed indication; fourth, the
majority of PMA device and neurological device approval precedents did not
include randomized controlled trials consistent with 21 CFR 860.7 of the
regulations; fifth, D-04 study which started in the year 2000 and was
originally designed to be compared with D-02 patients provides a valid,
prospective, active standard of care control consistent with the proposed
indication; and finally, the infeasibility and limited value of alternative
long term study designs in treatment resistant depression patients relative to
D-02 versus D-04 comparative analysis.
In
conclusion, allow me to once again thank you for your time today, and mention
that we are all here primarily because of the significant unmet need for an FDA
approved informed use, safe and effective long term treatment for treatment
resistant depression.
FDA
initially recognized this need in 1999 when expedited review status was
granted. Four and a half years later,
FDA reconfirmed the continuing unmet need in their December 2003 PMAS filing
letter. Please see the noted quote on
the slide.
I
now invite Dr. Rush to help us better understand treatment resistant depression
and the significant unmet need for an effective long term treatment for
TRD. Thank you.
DR.
RUSH: Thank you very much, and good
morning. I am John Rush. I am a full time employee of UT
Southwestern, Dallas. I have provided
consultation to Cyberonics and received fees for that consultation.
I
am going to very briefly review for you probably much of what the Panel is
quite familiar with, and certainly what you heard this morning already from the
several patients. That is the
importance of treatment resistant depression, its impact from a public health
significance and from a personal significance impact, and provide you some
sense of the kinds of patients that we are talking about that entered into the
VNS studies.
So
to recap what I think is quite familiar to most of you, a very common syndrome
affecting 16 percent of the individuals in the U.S. in their lifetime. This is not TRD. This is major depressive disorder. Two-thirds are female, 9.5 million treated annually and, as
mentioned previously, substantially disabling, second most disabling condition
in the U.S., fourth worldwide currently, the most disabling condition for women
in the United States presently.
It
is associated with a marked increase in mortality due to suicide. Thirty thousand suicides per year have been
mentioned. Eighty percent of those are
attributable to depression, and increased mortality as well due to worsening of
the outcome of a number of general medical conditions; for example,
cardiovascular disease, but others as well clearly investigated and studied.
It
is well known that depressed patients, for obvious reasons, are high utilizers
of not just mental health services but general health services.
Very
briefly, these slides are, I am sure, presenting you with what you know. So I'll just go very quickly over them. We 30 years ago had the stigma of
depression. We didn't even recognize it
much as an illness. They were seen as
troubled individuals. Obviously, that
is not the case. These are individuals
suffering from a syndrome defined by a variety of biological abnormalities.
Thirty
years ago we thought of these depressions as situational adjustment reactions,
basically brief, time limited, and of modest impact on individuals' lives. When I was at the University of
Pennsylvania, I was taught to treat these individuals with medication for four
to six months to facilitate psychotherapy, and the need for long term
medication was not recognized and was not part of training.
We
now know that 60 percent of people in the first depressive episode will go on
to have either a recurrent, subsequent episodes, or chronic course.
The
next level of stigma is that we have now accepted it as an illness, but I think
in many people's minds it is a very benign illness. In fact, it shortens life span due to the causes I previously
mentioned, suicide, increased mortality from general medical conditions. It is massively disabling. I reviewed the data with you.
The
third level of stigma: So now we
recognize an illness. We are beginning
to recognize just how profoundly severe and disabling this illness is, and costly
on a human suffering basis as well as an economic basis. But the third myth that we deal with is,
well, the treatments we have are really pretty good.
The
fact of the matter is the treatments we have are good, but they are not good
enough, and some of that is described here.
So our current medications are effective. Fifty percent of symptomatic volunteers, individuals who have
uncomplicated non-treatment resistant depression -- those are the individuals
that typically enter randomized efficacy trials for regulatory purposes, by the
way -- do respond to the first medication, and within that group of responders
the substantial majority achieve a remission, virtual absence of symptoms. But that only gives us 35 to 40 percent of
the uncomplicated, nonchronic, non-treatment resistant patients achieving
remission, the goal of treatment with the first drug.
What
about the second or the third drug? We
had some discussion about that earlier.
This is being evaluated, but at the moment the estimates are that
somewhere between 15 and 20 percent of patients will not achieve remission with
two or even three medications.
The
other element in treatment is sustaining that benefit, if achieved, and I will
describe that and discuss that in just a minute.
I
will show you some of the data that indicates that, even in non-treatment
resistant depressed patients, a substantial proportion having achieved a
benefit in acute treatment and continuation phase -- so three months plus four
more months, seven months -- do in fact suffer a return of the episode.
Treatment
resistant depression: The field has
begun to coalesce around an accepted definition. This is obviously on a continuum. There have been various staging systems to define treatment
resistant depression, but studies have been launched that accept this
definition as certainly a reasonable one.
I think a consensus of experts would agree.
It
is the lack of an adequate clinical response after at least two well delivered
treatments. Looking at symptomatic volunteers
from the efficacy trials that we have abundantly, as I mentioned, 50 percent
respond. About 35 to 40 remit, no
symptoms after the first trial.
It
is also known that, if you go to the second treatment -- these are largely open
trials, but there are quite a number of them -- about 20 to 25 percent of the
original sample respond to the second treatment, having not responded to the
first. So that gives us roughly 75
percent of the original sample.
That
leaves us with about 20 to 25 percent of individuals who will not achieve the
goal of response, which is short of remission, after two treatments.
So
what do we know about TRD? It has
actually become a focus of research over the last several years. It is quite clear that treatment resistant
depression is clearly associated with worse function, worse prognosis, higher
health care costs, health care utilization, increased risk of complications,
including general medical problems and substance abuse, as we have already
heard on an individual basis and has been shown in studies, high risk of family
burden, high risk of suicide, and as you know, 8 to 15 percent of previously
hospitalized depressed patients do go on to commit suicide, and the worsened
mortality we talked about in terms of general medical conditions.
Importantly,
treatment resistant depression has a very low response and very high relapse
rate, and I will show you a little bit of data to justify that statement in a
minute.
I
really don't have to spend very much time on this issue, because you have heard
the clinical picture of treatment resistant depression from the patients. But these individuals are exactly as
described, tearful, suicidal, hopeless, desperate, hanging on by their
knuckles, their fingernails, frequent users of hospitalization, emergency room,
seeing psychiatrists frequently, often failing to be fully employed or even
being unemployed, and a remarkable percentage on ongoing full time disability.
I
would point out that in the Texas Public Health System, one-third to 40 percent
of the individuals served by the Texas public sector have depression. They outnumber the individuals that are
still substantial in number who have schizophrenia. This is a very serious condition.
These
individuals depend heavily, as you heard, on families and others, and it really
is a different kind of depression. This
is not the kind of depression that enters typical efficacy trials, and I will
show you a little more data.
These
people have long standing disabling illness, rarely achieve sustained remission
even spontaneously, have very modest responses to medication, but they are
grateful to have even that. They are
much more akin to congestive heart failure, chronic renal or lung disease, the
kinds of chronic disabling general medical conditions, by the way, for which
patients do not take their lives.
Eighty percent of suicides are due to depression. This condition is so bad that people kill
themselves because of it.
What
about utilization? Just very briefly,
one slide. This is a study we recently
completed. This is the number of
different medications, changes that the individuals went through, and this is
an estimate of, in this case, cost but, obviously, then frequency of
utilization of inpatient/outpatient, pharmaceutical and total health care
utilization costs.
The
point is the greater the degree of treatment resistance, the greater the use of
all of these services, in, out and pharmaceutical.
Clinical
management of TRD at the moment:
Basically, we do not have an FDA approved treatment. Multiple medication is very common, as you
heard. Which treatments, however, are
best or what combinations are best is really not known. Is there a preferred series of treatment
steps? What treatment to give first,
second, third, and when to go to combinations -- that is really not known.
In
fact, I am the principal investigator on an NINH sponsored trial called the
Sequence Treatment Alternative To Relieve Depression Trial. We
have just completed enrollment with over 4,000 patients, and it is a
nested, multiple randomized controlled trial effort to see what to do, what is
best, if the patient does not respond to the first treatment.
So
they are randomized to four different switches or three different augments in
the second stage, and the third stage there is again randomizations to
different switching and augmenting treatments.
So
we hope to have, really for the first time, randomized controlled evidence for
what to do after the first treatment doesn't work, and certainly after the
second treatment doesn't work.
At
the moment -- and I would point out that this trial was launched in October of
1999. It is going to cost $35 million,
and I think it represents the importance of TRD now in terms of the public
health agenda. This has come on the
radar screen.
In
1990, if you talked about this condition, people would deny it existed. But every clinician knew about it, because
those are the patients we are treating.
ECT
is our best treatment right now for treatment resistant depression. It does work very nicely acutely, but it
does not -- it can't be used in a sustained, long term maintenance basis for
easily for most patients, because of some cognitive side effects. And when you stop the treatment, as I will
show you, the outcomes with ECT are not good, the treatment being discontinued.
The
management of TRD involves side effects and adherence difficulties due to
multiple medications, and it is known that the greater level of resistance is
associated with lower response and higher relapse rates.
The
reality of treatment of TRD today is keeping the patient alive, and basically
you heard that from the patients. Let
me give you one example. There is a
case of a young man, 29-year-old graduate student, been in graduate school
since age 21. He could not take the
full course load. He was taking two
courses, seeing a psychiatrist two to three times a week. He had been depressed for 10 years, in an
episode for 10 years.
He
had been on multiple medications. He
had finally settled on a combination of Resperidone and Prosac 80
milligrams. That was the best that he
could do. He was having panic attacks,
but he was able to stay outside the hospital.
He was preoccupied regularly with suicide and suicidal ideation,
basically living by himself in the dorm room, totally dependent on his family,
clearly ashamed of his life and what he had not become, given his peers with
whom he had graduated from college, and this was one of the first patients that
we actually entered into the VNS study.
That
is very typical, as we have heard from the other patients, of treatment
resistant depression.
What
about long term outcome with what we have now?
Well, here is the results with medication. pay attention to this column.
This is from John Greden's recent publication. He looked at long term recurrence rates, comparing placebo and
medication.
Indeed,
the medication does provide a benefit, but look at the recurrence rate, and
this is non-treatment resistant depression.
The recurrence rate over a year is up to, in some studies, 50 percent,
obviously depends on the population.
All
of these individuals had responded acutely and stayed well for four more months
of continuation treatment. So in
non-TRD long term outcome is not as we hope.
This
is another slide of the same question, a different population. This is a population that we recently
treated in the Texas Medication Algorithm Project in the public sector. They were treated for a year under algorithm
based conditions. So we used an
algorithmic sequence with augmented resources.
The
algorithm based treatment did very well as compared to treatment as usual. So this is the best outcome, and this is a
measure of depressive symptoms analogous to the Hamilton, and what you see is
the sustained response rates. That is,
response at nine and 12 months out, 14 percent sustained remission, five
percent -- and it doesn't matter, really, if it is observed case or LOCF. These are very, very remarkably low figures,
much lower than you expect from, of course, RCTs with non-TRD patients.
A
couple more slides on long term outcome, and then I will turn over the podium
to Dr. Rudolph. This is work from Dr.
Sackheim's group. These individuals
that we are showing you here had a successful acute phase response to ECT, our
most effective treatment for treatment resistant depression at the moment.
He
then randomized patients to placebo, nortriptyline plus placebo, or the
combination of Lithium and nortriptyline, followed the patients over subsequent
six months. As you can see, the relapse
rates in patients who had done quite well with ECT and were given the best
treatment, still 40 percent were relapsed within six months, and this is under
research conditions.
Eighty-four
percent of those individuals relapsed with placebo. Not all these people were treatment resistant. Of course, many were, because they received
ECT. If you look at the effect of
treatment resistance at baseline on the long term outcome following successful
ECT, you see this here.
Again,
work from Dr. Sackheim's group, patients had done well with ECT, and they were
designated at the beginning, blind to this outcome, whether or not they had
been medication resistant -- this is one or more medication failures in the
current episode -- or had not been so exposed.
You
notice, in the people that had medication resistance, two-thirds of these
individuals actually relapsed over the subsequent year, after successful
treatment with ECT. And this is still
an ongoing treatment. This is not in
placebo. So these individuals have a
very difficult long term course.
Finally,
just to provide you with a sense of who the patients are that you are going to
hear about. Let me just talk a little
bit from a clinical perspective.
What
this does is this is a comparison of individuals represented in the community
ECT sample developed by Dr. Sackheim from multiple New York metropolitan area
hospitals. These are just individuals
that are in the community, are receiving ECT.
We
then compare them to the individuals, all of them that enter the D-02 and D-04
studies. This is the number of
adequately delivered treatments which were scorable by the antidepressant
treatment history form, Dr. Sackheim's scale.
The
first thing that you see is that level of treatment resistance in the VNS
patients, noted in red, is far higher.
Almost half, in fact, are not even included within patients who receive
ECT in the community. Put the other
way, half the patients receiving ECT in the community do not have the level of
resistance that we are talking about with patients in the D-02 trial.
That
makes some sense. Fifty percent -- Over
50 percent of these patients in the trial had already had ECT in their
lifetime, and over a third in the current episode.
The
number of hospitalizations in the VNS group nearly twice that for the ECT
community group. So we are dealing in
these studies with a very, very, very difficult, hard to treat, at the end of
the line almost, depressed patient population.
I
can tell you, I have done trials for 30 years.
I have never ever come close to putting this level of difficult patient,
difficult disease in any trial. These
patients would not even come ever close to getting into a pharmaceutical trial,
because the pharmaceutical trials typically exclude people that have failed on
more than one treatment in the current episode.
The
other comment is about what is the meaning of these numbers. I just want to help convert. This is a
research definition that is extremely conservative. That is, Dr. Sackheim's scale only rates drugs that have been
demonstrated to be effective in randomized controlled trials.
Many
things that we do clinically with the treatment resistant depressed patient
have not been subjected to randomized controlled trials. An example is a typical anti-psychotic
augmentation has been subjected to one trial that has been published, and it
was widely used practice.
We
think it is effective. That would not
count in Dr. Sackheim's ratings. To
give you a sense, if in his scale there are two to three ATHF failed trials,
what is the actual number of clinical trials these patients failed on? Twelve, twelve clinical trials, and I am not
talking about all the combinations used, 12 medicines.
When
you get to four to five, the number of clinical trials is 16. When it is six or greater, the number of
clinical trials is 20. These are
extremely resistant patients who are really at the end of the line.
So
let me just briefly summarize. I am
sure you are convinced that TRD is highly disabling. It affects a large number of people, 20 percent of people with
major depression. It is a clear unmet
need.
These
patients have a high suicide risk. They
have very low response rates, high relapse and recurrence rates with our
current treatment, high utilization of health care services. They are really analogous to any of the very
severe psychiatric or chronic general medicine conditions.
We
have no FDA approved treatment that is effective, safe in the long run for
TRD. ECT is excellent, but difficult
for the reasons I have outlined previously.
Multiple medications are used in combinations and in sequences for which
there is virtually no evidence. Side
effects and adherence, especially with multiple medications, is a huge problem,
and we clearly need a treatment for these desperate but important and
substantial in number depressed patients.
Thank you.
Let
me turn the podium over to Dr. Richard Rudolph, Vice President, who will go
through the D-01 to 6 studies.
DR.
RUDOLPH: Thank you, Dr. Rush. I want to start by thanking the Panel Chair,
Panel secretary, Panel members and the FDA for this opportunity to provide an
overview of the clinical data supporting safety and effectiveness for VNS for
the indication that you are considering today, treatment resistant depression.
This
is an outline of the presentation that I am going to give this morning. I am going to provide some general
background, and then spend some time going over design and analysis
considerations to help you better understand the effectiveness data that I will
then present. Then finally, I will move
on to safety data and a short set of conclusions.
Well,
why did Cyberonics become interested, in the first place, in developing the VNS
therapy for depression? There were a
number of initial considerations that led us to believe VNS therapy might be
useful for this indication.
Those
consisted of anecdotal reports of mood improvement in patients in our epilepsy
trials where the improvement in mood seemed to be out of proportion to the
improvement in the seizure counts that the patients were experiencing.
Also,
knowledge that the use of anti-convulsants have been used in the past and
currently are used as mood stabilizers and augmenting agents in the treatment
of depression, and the observation that electroconvulsive therapy has both
antidepressant and anti-convulsant actions.
Subsequently
there were some additional considerations that provided a biological rationale
for the use of VNS for this indication.
These included: A more formal
analysis of mood changes in the epilepsy studies, which confirmed the anecdotal
reports; a variety of neuroimaging data, some of which I will show you shortly;
effects on neurotransmitters which showed that VNS does have effects on
norepinephrine and serotonin, the normal transmitters most closely implicated
in the action of antidepressant drugs; and most recently, activity in an animal
antidepressant model called the 4-SWIM test in which VNS had similar effects to
desipramine, a standard antidepressant drug, and clearly distinguishable from
placebo.
As
I indicated, we have done a variety of neuroimaging studies, and our findings
from the neuroimaging studies have shown us that VNS affects a widespread array
of autonomic, reticular, and limbic structures within the brain.
The
immediate effects of VNS on the central nervous system implicate brain areas
known to be primary and secondary vagal projections. So just what you would assume that happens.
Longer
term effects of VNS on the central nervous system implicate limbic and
paralimbic brain circuits associated with depression and mood regulation. An example of that is shown on this slide.
These are PET images three months after the initiation of vagus nerve
stimulation.
What
one finds is effects, modulation in areas such as the orbitofrontal cortex, L.
insula, and the Mid-Cingulate Gyrus.
These are areas that are implicated in the regulation of mood.
Our
six-year development program for VNS for the TRD indication consists of the
studies on this slide. The most
important studies, the ones I will be spending the most time on in my
presentation, are the ones above the yellow bar.
Those
are the D-01 study which was an open-label feasibility study, the D-02 study
which had two parts, an acute phase which was a double blind randomized control
of sham stimulation and active VNS therapy, and the second phrase, a long term
phase in which the sham treated patients crossed over into active
treatment. So all patients continued
out to one year and beyond in an open label fashion.
Then
the D-04 study, which is a prospective observational, which is a prospective
observational study of treatment resistant depression patients treated with
standard of care therapies, which we used as a control for the long term D-02
outcomes.
Other
studies that were in our submission that I won't be speaking too much about
were the C-03 study which is actually still enrolling -- it is a European open
label study; the D-05 study which was per se not a study but a video tape
assessment used to ascertain the inter-rate of reliability of those that were
performing the ratings for the D-02 study; and then the D-06 study, which is a
study, a pilot study in a very different population. This is an open label feasibility study in rapid cycling bipolar
disorder.
Next
I would like to go through some design and analysis considerations to help
facilitate your understanding of the effectiveness data that I will be
presenting subsequently.
There
are several lines of evidence to support the effectiveness of adjunctive VNS
therapy for TRD indication. The most
important evidence comes from a comparison of the 12-month outcomes in the D-02
patients, and again these are patients in the long term that are receiving
adjunctive VNS therapy, in comparison with the 12-month outcomes from patients
in a separate study, D-04, which were enrolled as similar patients to receive
only standard of care therapy.
Other
evidence comes from a comparison of the D-02 acute treatment outcomes that
compared VNS with sham control, and then longer term outcomes, both from the
D-02 patients and form the D-01 patients in the feasibility study, particularly
with a focus on the durability of their response.
This
slide gives a schematic of the D-02 study design. Patients in the study were qualified during an initial 45-day
period, and those that met protocol entry criteria were then implanted and
randomized.
Following
that, there was a two-week period during which stimulation was not turned on
for any patients. It was a period for
recovery from the surgery. At that
point, the group that was randomized to the active VNS therapy group had their
stimulators turned on, and for two weeks underwent a period of stimulation
adjustment.
Whatever
parameters were obtained and optimized at that period were continued for an
additional eight weeks of therapy.
Meanwhile,
the sham stimulation group underwent all the same procedures, but never had the
output current turned on for their stimulators. So they served as the control.
Following
the end of that period, the patients in the sham treatment group had the
opportunity to cross over to active therapy and underwent the same procedures,
and then both groups of patients continued into a long term open label phase.
During
the acute phase, medications had to be fixed.
So whatever medications the patients came into the study on had to
remain the same. During the long term
study phase, medications could be added or increased at the discretion of the
investigators.
Here
we have some more details on the study design.
I have already covered the top part of the slide. There were 235 patients that were implanted
in the study at 21 different study sites.
The main inclusion criteria to be enrolled in the study were that you
could be a male or female between the ages of 18 and 80 years of age. You had to have a current diagnosis of being
in a major depressive episode with a background history of having chronic or
recurrent depression.
Most
importantly perhaps, you had to have failed at least two adequate treatment
trials in the current major depressive episode as measured by standardized
scale that Dr. Rush referred to before, the antidepressant treatment history
form; and patients had to have a minimum score of 20 on their baseline Hamilton
reading.
Here
are some similar details for the D-04 study design. D-04 was a 24-month prospective observational study in which
patients received standard of care treatment but no VNS. So if you think about it for a moment,
essentially what we have in the D-02 study is a group of patients receiving VNS
long term plus various medications at the discretion of the physicians taking
care of the patients, and in the D-04 study we have a similar group of patients,
but they are receiving medications only, no vagus nerve stimulation.
The
D-04 study enrolled 127 patients at 13 total study sites, 12 of which were
overlapping sites with the D-02 study.
The main inclusion for the D-04 study were identical to the inclusion
criteria for the D-02 study.
So
why do we think this nonrandomized D-04 serves as an appropriate control for
the D-02, a long term study? Well, for
several reasons. First of all, it was a
prospectively designed study for comparison with D-02 outcomes. It just wasn't randomized with D-02.
It
does represent a clinically relevant control in that it is an active treatment
control that corresponds to the proposed indication for VNS, which is
adjunctive long term VNS therapy.
The
study was done primarily at overlapping sites, as I have already indicated, and
it did use the same principal enrollment criteria. Moreover, the study was conducted over a similar time period,
which is important, because it helped ensure that patients would have access to
the same types of treatments in terms of their standard of care therapy.
Finally,
the D-04 represents a large sample size which, of course, facilitates
statistical comparisons.
Now
for the benefit Panel members that may not be that familiar with research
methodology in depression trials, I have included some slides to provide some
additional background. The first slide
tells you how we measure effectiveness outcomes in depression studies.
In
depression studies, effectiveness is measured by standardized validated rating
scales. These may be either
multi-dimensional scales -- that is, scales that cover different aspects of the
depressive syndrome, and examples of this would be the Hamilton rating scale
for depression, the inventory of depressive symptomatology self-report, and the
Montgomery Asberg Depressing Rating Scale -- or the rating scales may be a
Licher type scale like the Clinical Global Impression Scale.
The
scales may be either clinician or patient rated. For the multi-dimensional scales, the way the scales are analyzed
is to total all the individual items, obtain a total score, and then analyze
the total score. Higher scores on these
scales indicate a patient who is more severely depressed. So as you improve, your scores go down on
the scales.
Here
are some examples. I'll just provide
some further detail on the Hamilton rating scale for depression. On the lefthand side of the slide, you see
the various domains that are assessed by the scale: Mood, feelings of guilt, suicide, sleep, work, activities,
psychomotor retardation and agitation, anxiety, somatic symptoms and weight
loss.
A
sample item from the scale is up here, and a clinical interpretation, and this
is only a rough clinical guideline.
This is not standardized through research, but here is a rough clinical
interpretation of how you interpret the total scores and equate it to how
severely ill the patient is.
Here
is a similar representation for the Inventory of Depressive Symptomatology
Self-report. It assesses some of the
same symptoms and some symptoms not assessed by the Hamilton scale. Here is a sample item, and here is the
clinical interpretation of the total scores.
One
thing to note as I start to show the effectiveness results from the VNS studies
is you will find that the baseline scores for the patients entered in our trial fall -- as a mean fall into the
severe range on both scales.
Broadly
speaking, the types of analyses that you will be seeing fall into two
categories, either continuous measures or categorical outcomes analyses. The continuous outcomes analyses measure --
Probably the most prominent we used was a repeated measures linea
regression. These continuous measures
generally measure a change from baseline.
The
categorical outcomes measure discrete categories of outcome. Commonly, these include response. Response is generally defined in the field
as a 50 percent or greater improvement on the multi-dimensional scales or on
the CGI, the Licher type scale, response is defined as a one or two, which
corresponds to a clinician rating of Very Much or Much Improved from baseline.
We
also use categorical outcomes of complete response or sometimes called
remission. This equates with a patient
who is well or almost completely well, and those are defined by absolute cutoff
scores on the scales.
Finally,
because we were concerned with this particular population that these standard
definitions might underestimate the true benefit for the patients, we also
included a categorization of clinical benefit derived from the literature,
which categorizes different levels of improvement from the Hamilton scale. I will be presenting data from this
particular categorical outcome mostly in the form of looking at the durability
of response for patients in the D-01 and D-02 studies.
Now,
of course, with the multiplicity of scales, it is important to identify one
single primary outcome, and this slide shows you the primary analyses that were
prespecified in our various statistical plans for each of the important studies
I will be talking about today.
In
the D-02 acute study the primary analyses were response rates after 12 weeks of
therapy determined from the Hamilton rating scale. So that is the 50 percent or greater improvement.
For
the D-02 long term study the primary analysis was the repeated measures linear
regression analysis of the Hamilton scores over 12 months, estimating the
change over time.
For
the D-02 versus D-04 comparison, the primary analysis was a repeated measures
linear regression analysis of the IDS scores over 12 months, estimating the
monthly difference between the D-02 and D-04 patients, in other words a linear
study effect.
You
may be wondering why we had this transition through different scales and
different types of analysis. So let me
explain that up front.
When
we had the opportunity to revise the statistical plan, which was necessitated
by the finding in the acute study that there were trends and some positive
findings on secondary outcomes, but the primary outcome failed to reach
statistical significance, we then moved to a repeated measures rather than a
categorical outcome, primarily because in prior communications with the FDA
they had expressed some preference for that as an outcome, and also because it
is a more sensitive measure for finding differences between treatment groups.
Then
when we moved on to the D-02 and D-04 comparison, having committed ourselves to
the repeated measures linear regression approach, we were kind of forced into
using the IDS as the primary scale, because the D-02 study only had a baseline
and a 12-month measurement on the Hamilton, and the repeated measures approach
requires multiple observations over time, which were present for the IDS but
not for the Hamilton. Therefore, we
chose the IDS for those particular set of analyses or at least for the primary
analysis.
So
with that as background, let me move on to a review of the primary data that
supports an effectiveness claim for VNS for the TRD indication. I am going to start with the most important
evidence. That comes from a comparison
of the D-02 results versus the D-04 results over 12 months of treatment.
Let's
start by looking at the flow of the D-02 study participants through the long
term phase. You will recall that I said
235 patients were initially implanted in the D-02 acute study; 233 of those
patients continued into the long term phase and constitute our long term safety
population.
Our
statistical plan prespecified that analyses would be done primarily using an
evaluable efficacy subset of patients, and that included 205 of those 233
patients. The reason for excluding 28
patients are shown in the middle box here on the slide.
The
majority of those patients are: 21 were
patients in the sham control group that were excluded, because after the sham
period, their Hamilton score was no longer above 18, which was a prespecified
criteria.
Now
I would like to point out -- I know in the FDA review material that you
received, there was a mention that 20 percent of the patients had a placebo
effect, and I want to distinguish that from a placebo response, that it was an
effect based on patients falling below 18, but that should not be confused with
a placebo response which would require the definition that a patient improve 50
percent or more. In fact, only 10
percent of the patients improved to the extent that they could be called a
placebo responder.
The
other seven patients were excluded from the treatment group, and they were
excluded either because they didn't have long term data or because three did
not meet acute phase continuation criteria that were also prespecified in the
statistical plan.
For
the D-04 study there were 127 patients that were enrolled. Three were excluded from the evaluable
efficacy analyses for the reasons shown on this slide.
When
we analyzed the patients for their baseline characteristics, we found that they
were quite comparable. This is just one of several slides. All told, we analyzed about 20 different
baseline characteristics. Only three of
them were statistically different between the two groups, and those are shown
on this slide in yellow highlighting, along with some of the additional 19
characteristics which I thought would be of most interest to the Panel members.
So
let's start with the ones that were statistically different. The first one was ethnic distribution. There was a higher percentage of Caucasians
in the D-02 group, but this is probably clinically irrelevant, since as you can
see in both groups, they were at least 90 percent Caucasian.
The
second difference was in the number of lifetime episodes of depression. The D-04 group had a higher proportion of
patients in the category of more than 10 lifetime episodes.
Then
the third area of difference was in the percentage of patients that had had
exposure to ECT, and both in the current episode and lifetime there was a
higher percentage of patients with ECT exposure in the D-02 group.
So
one take-home message from this slide and the other information I have given
you is that these patients are very comparable at baseline. Also a take-home point from this slide is
some indication of just how extraordinarily severely ill and treatment
resistant these patients are.
For
instance, you can see in terms of the average duration of illness over the
lifetime and in the current episode, these are very lengthy illnesses. Patients as a mean had been sick for at
least 25 years in their lifetime, and at least four years in the current
episode. In fact, fully two-thirds of
the patients were actually in a chronic major depressive episode, defined as an
episode lasting continuously two or more years.
The
primary analysis for comparing the D-02 and D-04 outcomes was a repeated
measures linear regression of the IDS scores.
That is illustrated on this slide.
Now for point of clarity, I should say that the actual graph is drawn
from actual raw scores and not from the repeated measures model. I did that for the sake of presentation
clarity, but the statistical comparison comes from the primary repeated
measures model.
What
you will note is the D-04 patients shown in the light blue dotted line improved
very little during the course of 12 months of treatment with access to every
accepted therapy, every legal therapy, and a lot of churning through therapies.
By
contrast, the patients in the D-02 group receiving adjunctive VNS, shown in the
solid burnt orange color, improved to a greater degree. That improvement increases. That is the difference between not only the
absolute improvement but also the difference between the two groups improves as
time marches on through the year, and the comparison is highly statistically
significant with a p-value of less than 0.001.
We
did a series of alternate methodologic approaches to the data to test the
robustness of the data. These included
doing the primary analysis on the intent to treat population rather than this
efficacy evaluable population. So all
patients were included in this analysis, all 235 D-02 patients, all 127 D-04
patients, and that analysis retained statistical significance at the less than
0.001 level.
We
also did an analysis where we looked at just the overlapping sites, so just the
common sites to both D-02 and D-04, patients from those sites. Again, statistical significance was
retained, in this case at a level of 0.002.
The
results from the primary analysis were confirmed by a variety of secondary
analyses. Here we are looking at the
secondary analysis that examines the change in Hamilton scores from baseline to
12 months. Remember, we just had a
baseline in the 12 month scores available on the Hamilton.
What
one observes is that in the D-02 group there is about an eight-point decrease
in the Hamilton score over the course of a year. Again, decreases signify improvement, versus about a five-point
improvement in the D-04 patients. That
result is statistically significant.
On
a variety of secondary outcomes looking at response rates and complete response
or remission rates, we find the following.
Results from the IDS scale are shown here, from the Hamilton scale here. First we look at response, and then we look
at complete response.
So
response based on the IDS scale was 22 percent for the D-02 group and 12
percent for the D-04 group. Complete
response was 15 versus 4 percent.
on the Hamilton scale, the
response in the treated group with adjunctive VNS was 30 percent. For the D-04 group it was 13 percent. In terms of complete response it was 17
versus 7 percent. All these comparisons
are statistically significant.
One
more, using the Clinical Global Impressions as a measure of response where a 1
or 2 corresponding to a clinician rating of Much or Very Much Improved equates
with response, we found almost a threefold difference between the groups, with
37 percent of the D-02 patients and only 12 percent of the D-04 patients
reaching the response criteria, a result that was statistically significant at
a robust level.
So
in summary for this section of slides, what we found were comparable, highly
treatment resistant groups at baseline, a statistically significant result
favoring adjunctive VNS therapy on the primary analysis, statistical
significance in both evaluable efficacy analyses and ITT analyses, and
statistical significance retained in the subset of patients that come only from
the overlapping sites enrolling both D-02 and D-04 patients, and we found that
statistically and clinically significant differences were confirmed by
secondary analyses using multiple outcome measures, the categorical outcomes being
a more appropriate way to assess clinical outcome.
Now
because our control was a nonrandomized one, we were very concerned about
potential sources of bias or other explanations for the outcome other than the
VNS was contributing to the better improvement in the D-02 patients. This slide in a picture way tries to give
you what we were most concerned about.
We
were certainly concerned about the influence of baseline differences on
patients, the influence of medications and electroconvulsive therapy, and I am
going to deal with those three right now and show you why those are not the
explanations for why the D-02 patients are getting better, and then i am going
to address the issue of placebo response a little later in my presentation.
So
let's start with baseline characteristics.
Baseline characteristics do not explain why the D-02 patients are doing
better. Why is that? Well, first of all, there were few
significant differences between the D-02 and D-04 on baseline characteristics,
as I have already demonstrated.
However, we did take an additional measure that was prespecified in our
statistical plan.
That
was to incorporate a propensity adjustment strategy to provide additional
insurance that potential bias associated with the imbalance of measured
baseline covariates was removed. For
nonstatisticians, such as me, let me try to give you a one-slide lesson on what
propensity is all about, because it may be a new concept for some of you.
It
is a technique that is particularly suitable for adjusting nonrandom treatment
assignment. So it is particularly
suitable for this comparison with the D-04 group.
In
this particular strategy, you calculate a propensity score, and that score
represents a conditional probability of assignment to a group, given a set of
measured covariates. So it is a way of
encompassing a whole large variety of different characteristics in a single
score.
The
way we used it was to incorporate it in all analyses of effectiveness and, when
we did so, we found that the propensity score did not contribute to the primary
repeated measures analysis' statistical significance.
Now
the limitation of propensity analysis is that it can only address measured
covariates or measured characteristics.
It cannot address those that are unmeasured. We do not think, however, that unmeasured covariates are likely
to account for the differences either, and the reasons for that are that, first
of all, all or nearly all of the covariates that have a well established
literature behind them were things that we measured and accounted for.
Furthermore,
we think that, to the extent unmeasured covariates might be present, they are
very likely to be equally distributed between the D-02 and D-04 groups, because
the sample sizes for both D-02 and D-04 are quite large or, if they are not
equally distributed, that would probably be because they are so rare that they
would be unimportant in terms of affecting outcome.
The
second issue that I would like to address is the influence of medications and
electroconvulsive therapy. Obviously,
this was a major consideration for us, because the way the trials were set up
is patients in both groups could have access to virtually every therapy that
was legally marketed.
That
raises the question of whether, in the end, in fact, the treatment that the
patients received as adjunctive treatment for the D-02 and the standard of care
treatment for D-04 are indeed comparable.
So
we have done a number of analysis to address that issue. The first thing we did was simply to look at
the use of new treatments during the 12-month outcome. That is, the addition of a new medication or
significant increase in an existing medication, based on those ATHF criteria.
What
we found was that, among D-02 responders, 56 percent of the patients added or
increased a medication during the 12 months.
In contrast, 77 percent of the nonresponders and 81 percent of the D-04
responders did so, differences both of which were statistically different from
the D-02 responders.
So
this is highly suggestive that the benefit the D-02 responders are deriving is
coming from VNS, because they are actually using less medication as time goes
on.
That
wasn't enough for us, however. We
wanted to address this even further. So
we undertook a series of censored analyses which we felt would be a rather
conservative way to address this potential area of bias.
The
censored analysis that I will be sharing with you this morning was the most
conservative of a set that we did. In
this analysis the D-02 patient scores are censored at the first significant
increase or addition of an antidepressant medication.
At
that point, what we do is drag forward the last score prior to censoring for
those patients into the subsequent observation periods used in the repeated
measures in your regression analysis of its scores.
This
has the effect of truncating the VNS benefit.
So it is somewhat unfair to the VNS.
Even in the absence of medication, it is unfair to the VNS group,
because it truncates any ongoing or increasing benefit they might obtain from
VNS to, in this case, an average of seven months out of the 12 months of
treatment.
At
the same time, the D-04 patient scores are uncensored. They get the benefit of the full 12 months
of treatment with unlimited treatment changes.
This
slide shows you the results from that censored analysis. First of all, in the blue line were the
results we saw before on an earlier slide for the D-04 patients on the repeated
measures linear regression analysis of its scores. The bottom burnt orange line are the scores or the line that we
saw before for the D-02 patients uncensored.
The
censored line for the D-02 patients is shown in the line in the middle in the
yellow color. So not surprisingly, once
censored, the D-02 scores aren't as good, and yet there still is a good amount
of change.
You
can see as a change per month from baseline, uncensored is here, and for the
D-02 censored scores it is still a good amount of change, and as a change from
baseline both are statistically significant.
More
importantly, if we look at the average difference per month versus the D-04
groups, here are the uncensored values that we looked at before. The average change per month on the IDS was
a difference of .397 which, as we saw, was statistically significant.
Censored,
actually somewhat to our surprise because we didn't expect this in this
sensitivity analysis, didn't reach statistical significance, but it came
awfully close at .052.
So
we conclude that differences in outcomes between the D-02 and D-04 patients are
not attributable to baseline characteristics.
In fact, the results were the same with and without propensity
adjustment, nor are they attributable to concomitant antidepressant medication
or ECT, and I should mention that in the censored analysis medication changes
always preceded an attempt at ECT. So
they are accounted for in the censored analysis.
So
the differences in outcomes between the two groups are also not attributed to
concomitant antidepressant medication or ECT.
The D-02 responders had fewer medication changes, and the D-02 patients,
even censored for concomitant treatment changes, still improved more than the
D-04 patients, uncensored, but didn't quite reach statistical significance.
Additional
evidence for the effectiveness of VNS therapy comes from a number of datasets
indicated on this slide. First, let me
talk about the findings from the D-02 acute study. That was the randomized control of VNS versus sham
treatment. The primary outcome measure
was a response on the Hamilton. That is
a 50 percent improvement.
There
was a numerical trend for the treated group shown in orange to be better than
the sham group of 15 versus 10 percent.
This numerical trend held up through all the analyses, but it rarely
reached statistical significance.
It
did not reach statistical significance on the primary outcome. It did occasionally reach statistical
significance on secondary outcomes such as the response from the IDS where the
slightly larger differential of 17 versus 8 percent in response rates was
statistically significant.
In
the long term, you won't be surprised if I tell you on the repeated measures of
the Hamilton scores compared to baseline, that was statistically
significant. Here I have chosen to
display the longer term results in terms of the categorical outcomes. What you will note is that, regardless of
what scale is used, whether the IDS, the Hamilton scale or Montgomery Asberg
scale, there is an accruing response over time as the patients continue from
three months out to one year.
AS
I indicated before, for these very treatment resistant patients these
traditional research definitions may understate the true benefit to the
patient. That is consistent with other
very chronic and intransigent disorders such as obsessive compulsive disorder
or schizophrenia. We sometimes accept a
lower threshold for response. So we did
use the clinical benefit categories that I showed you on an earlier study.
If
you do that, in addition to the 30 percent of patients that were responders
based on the Hamilton scale using the traditional research definition, you can
pick up maybe another 25 percent of patients that fall into this category of a
25 to 49 percent improvement in the Hamilton, which could be meaningful in
terms of producing some significant benefit for the patient, even in terms of
functional outcomes.
So
all told, when you add all those categories together, maybe up to slightly more
than half of the patients do achieve some at least meaningful benefit during 12
months of VNS therapy.
Now,
of course, those types of analyses, particularly when you are going from three
to 12 months, do beg the question of which are those patients in 12
months? Are they the same patients at
three months, and you are just adding more patients to it or is it a total
different group of patients?
Obviously,
what we would most like to see is that we are adding patients, and the patients
that do benefit initially continue to benefit.
This is a very important point with VNS therapy, as you have already
probably come to appreciate from Dr. Rush's presentation and from hearing from
some of the patients.
In
this TRD population it is very unlikely that patients are going to respond, but
even more stunning it is extremely unlikely that, once having responded, they
are going to retain it. So while not
controlled, I think these are some of the most persuasive data as to VNS's long
term effectiveness.
So
for instance, using the categories on the previous slide we found at the end of
three months in the D-02 study there were 56 patients that fell into the
extraordinary, highly meaningful or what was labeled meaningful clinical
benefit, those patients that had at least a 25 percent improvement on the
Hamilton score.
So
after an additional nine months of therapy, what happens to those
patients? Well, 41 of those patients
continue to be maintained in one of these categories, and only 15 patients fall
out of that category. So 73 percent of
the patients all told maintained at least a meaningful clinical benefit from
three to 12 months with continued adjunctive VNS therapy.
We
can use these same type of analyses, which we refer to as SHIF tables, and this
is just a pictorial form of that, to ask what happens to the patients that
don't benefit after three months. You
already heard from the patients that in some cases it takes a long time to
derive benefit, and that is illustrated here.
There
were 118 patients that after three months did not fall into those more
desirable categories of extraordinary, highly meaningful or meaningful clinical
benefit, and after an additional nine months of therapy 56 of the 118, or
nearly half, did transition into at least the meaningful category of clinical
benefit.
So
there is some value-- There appears to be some value in continuing VNS therapy
even beyond three months in patients that don't initially respond.
Then
finally for the effectiveness data, I want to end with results from the D-01
feasibility study, so we don't shortchange that. The primary outcome identified in that protocol was response rate
on the Hamilton.
After
three months of therapy you see that 31 percent of the patients were
responders, Fifteen percent were in
complete response, and at the 12 month point 45 percent of the D-01 patients
were responders, and 27 percent were complete responders.
Again,
we can do that type of SHIF table analysis, and here are the results for the
D-01 study, again using the same categories of clinical benefit. There were 30 patients after three months
that were in those desirable categories, and after an additional nine months of
therapy 23 of those 30 patients maintained at least a meaningful clinical
benefit, and that was 77 percent of the patients.
I
promised before that I would address the issue of placebo response. For those of you that are very familiar with
depression studies, you know this is a major issue in doing clinical trials in
drugs, at least with the more common type of depression. Hopefully, you are already getting an
appreciation that it is not as much of an issue with treatment resistant
depression, and I will show you why.
There
are a number of reasons why improvements in the D-02 patients are not readily
attributable to a placebo effect. First
of all, I personally think the most persuasive is that we did show
statistically significant differences in the D-02-D-04 comparison where we are
actually comparing two active treatment regimens.
Moreover,
just some general considerations lead us down the road that placebo response is
a very unlikely explanation for the D-02 patients' outcomes. First of all, published literature tells us
that placebo response rate in this treatment resistant group, unlike more
common depression, is very low and the numbers that are cited in the literature
are generally between zero and ten percent.
I
think more compelling is that placebo response by nature is not usually
sustained for 12 months, even in more common depression. There is a good literature now
characterizing the pattern of placebo response, and what that literature tells
us is that placebo response tends to occur early and is not persistent or
sustained.
Then,
too, consider that as you saw in some of the data that Dr. Rush presented, even
in active treatment maintenance of patients -- and he showed you data from the
ECT responders. Even when those
patients are not on placebo but in active treatment, their maintenance of
response is very poor, and this is another view of data that Dr. Rush showed
you earlier, just a simpler presentation using bars rather than survival
analysis curves.
Again,
to remind you of the findings, following successful ECTs -- these are all ECT
responders -- and then following patients in Dr. Sackheim's study out to one
year in a naturalistic setting, 68 percent of the patients who had a prior
history of medication resistance, and that could be as little as resistance to
one drug -- 68 percent of those
patients relapsed over the year, which was twice as high as the relapse rate in
patients without an adequate medication trial prior to ECT.
We
used those observations to do one exploratory analysis that I would like to
share with you. There is no statistical
values here, because it was just an exploratory analysis, and we didn't do
statistical testing. But we asked
ourselves what would happen if we just looked at the chronic subset of patients
from D-02 and D-04?
Remember,
two-thirds of the patients were in a chronic episode, and that is defined as a
continuous episode of two or more years.
These are the patients you would expect are the least likely to be
subject to some type of placebo response.
So we wanted to see if their overall response was similar to the total
group.
That
is indeed what we found. Here you see
the overall response on the Hamilton scale was 29 percent for this group and 10
percent for the D-04 group, and complete response was 14 versus 3 percent. So percentages very similar to the overall
group.
So
in summary for this section, we found consistent numerical advantages for acute
VNS therapy over sham control. Although
it didn't reach statistical significance on the primary outcome, it was
statistically significant on a few of the secondary outcomes. So it lends at least supporting evidence for
VNS's effectiveness.
We
saw increasing improvement of responders and complete responders over time, and
probably most importantly, we saw improvements during adjunctive VNS therapy
that were sustained at a high rate.
By
contrast, placebo response in depression studies or depression in general tends
to occur early and is not sustained.
And even in medication resistant ECT responders, relapse is very high,
even during active continuation therapy.
Next
I would like to provide a very quick summary of the safety data that was in our
application. Our safety database
consisted of a pool of patients from the D-01, D-02 and D-03 groups or
studies. That encompassed 342 patients
and, I think, importantly, 689 total patient years of exposure.
The
common adverse events that were obtained in the depression studies are similar
to what we experienced in the epilepsy studies and epilepsy clinical use. They are listed here on this slide as
defined by those events that occurred at least at a five percent incidence
during acute treatment in the D-02 group and at a rate at least one and a half
times that in the sham control, a sort of convention that helps sort out treatment related side
effects from those that aren't treatment related.
The
most common side effect that we observed was voice alteration in 68 percent of
the therapy group, and the other very common effects, cough increase, shortness
of breath, and swallowing difficulties, as well as some discomfort at the site
of stimulation, whether that is pain or peresthesias, are all commonly known to occur with VNS therapy when it is used
for the treatment of epilepsy.
These
different side effects are generally mild to moderate, and most often,
particularly the ones on the top of the list, are effects that only occur when
the stimulator is actually on. So they
may only be experienced by the patient during the 30 seconds that the
stimulator is typically on, and then they don't experience them for the five
minutes that it is off.
Also,
the events tend to decrease over time, or at least the reporting of the events
decrease over time, as illustrated by this analysis. Here we are looking at a cohort of patients that report these
more frequent adverse events during the first three months of therapy, and then
have continuous observations over 12 months of therapy so we can track the
persistence of disappearance of that event over 12 months.
So
for example, if we just look at the first one here, cough increase, what we
found was that there were 55 patients -- you probably can't see the numbers too
well, but there were 55 patients that reported this particular adverse event in
the D-02 study during the first three months of stimulation, and then over the
course of the next nine months their
reporting of that side effect decreases, so that by the period nine to
12 months only 11 of the original 55 patients are still reporting that adverse
event.
You
see a similar pattern throughout all these common side effects, although some
decrease to a lesser extent than others, like there still is a fair degree of
persistence on the voice alteration.
Not too surprising, since it is a direct effect of stimulating the vagus
nerve.
Overall,
I think very importantly, these adverse events are very well tolerated, and
that is as evidence by this slide. Here
we are looking at adverse event related discontinuation rates from the D-01 and
D-02 studies at the time of our data cutoff for the submission.
That
encompassed at least two years of experience for all the D-01 patients and at
least one year for the D-02 patients.
You will observe that only three percent in each of those two studies
had discontinued during that time period specifically related to an adverse
event.
This,
I think, compares very favorably with what you see in typical drug trials where
maybe 10 or even more than 10 percent of patients will discontinue for adverse
events even over a short term trial lasting eight to 12 weeks.
In
our review of safety, we were particularly focused on some issues that might be
specific to depressed patients or the disorder of depression, and the one that
we were most focused on was suicide.
Now
probably all the Panel members are very sensitive to this, because there has
been a lot in the public press recently about concerns that antidepressant
drugs may very rarely provoke suicidal type thinking in patients, particularly
pediatric patients, which has been the recent focus.
So
we looked at this very carefully.
First, here is the results for the pool of the D-01, 02 and 03 studies,
342 patients. We have the incidence of
suicide attempts per patient year here.
That works out to 3.5 percent, and actual suicide 0.4 percent.
The
first thing we did was compare that to published literature. There is a nice review by Khan and
Co-Workers. It is a very large review,
as you can see. It encompasses almost
20,000 patients. Those patients are
derived from the FDA summary bases of approval for seven different
antidepressant drugs.
What
Khan and Co-Workers found in a less treatment resistant group was suicide
attempt rates of 2.9 percent, and actual suicide of 0.8 percent per patient
year in the combined active treatment groups, and here are data also for the
placebo group.
So
we think the rates for the VNS group compare quite favorably with this. We also had the ability to look specifically
at suicide ideation in the form of the third item of the Hamilton scale, which
measures suicidal ideation.
What
we were able to do here is use a standard definition that the pharmaceutical
manufacturers or sponsors use, which is to look for the percentage of patients
that have a two-point increase from baseline in their third score on the
Hamilton.
We
compared the experience in the VNS group to two control groups. First, in the acute D-02 trial, we compared
the VNS group with the sham control group, and you can see similar rates. Two percent of the actively treated VNS
patient and three percent of the sham treated patients had these two-point
increases.
Then
for more long term exposure we were able to compare the D-02 long term
experience at 12 months with the D-04 experience at 12 months when we did have
that Hamilton rating. Again you see
similar rates, three and two percent respectively.
We
should not forget that VNS therapy has been on the market for seven years. We have accumulated a lot of safety data
from the epilepsy experience, most of which, obviously, is directly relevant to
the depression experience also.
As
you heard earlier, we now have more than 22,000 implanted patients and over
56,000 patient years of experience. In
that experience, we found the VNS implant procedure to be a relatively low risk
procedure.
The
most important and common adverse associated with the procedure itself are
infection necessitating explant in about one percent of patients, nerve damage
in about less than half a percent of patients, either in the form of damage to
the vagus nerve or the facial nerve, and a phenomenon of transient asystole in
the operating room when the device is first turned on for testing that occurs
in somewhere between one and two patients in 1,000.
As
with the depression data, most of the adverse events in the epilepsy clinical
experience and the clinical trials has proved -- most of the adverse events
have proved to be minor and stimulation related.
There
are few serious simulation related events associated with VNS therapy, and
patients -- As a measure of how well tolerated the therapy is, patients in our
pool of epilepsy trials continued therapy at a very high rate, about 72 percent
after three years.
So
in summary, our safety data from the depression studies has shown us that
adverse events are mainly stimulation related and not troublesome. There is a low rate of treatment related
discontinuation.
There
is no signal for treatment related emergence of suicidal ideation or behavior
and, obviously, we have to hasten to acknowledge that this is at best a very
rare event. So the ability of our
dataset to actually detect such a signal would be rather limited, but at least
what we can say is, based on the data that we have looked at, there is no
signal for emergent suicidal ideation or behavior.
Also
data that I didn't show you this morning, another potential adverse event
peculiar or specific to depression that we looked at was the rate of emergent
mania or hypomania.
About
ten percent of the patients in the D-02 and D-04 studies were bipolar patients,
and in this group you do worry about the emergence of mania, which can be a
side effect either of treatment, and in fact, it is taken by most clinicians to
be a sign they have an effective treatment, or it can be due to the underlying
disease.
So
we looked at that one carefully, too, and we found that the incidence of
emergent mania or hypomania was in the range that you would expect for an
effective antidepressant. We have data
we can show you later, if you are more interested in that.
So
overall, VNS therapy was very well tolerated and safe in our clinical trials.
There
are also some unique benefits for VNS therapy, as it is a unique approach to
treating depression. So from this
device based approach, some benefits that you wouldn't get from drugs and, in
some cases, from ECT.
For
example, Mr. Totah alluded to early in his presentation that patients can
acutely disable the device if necessary, to temporarily stop side effects. That is a unique advantage of this therapy.
Also,
published data that I didn't present this morning shows that there is an
absence of cognitive and psychomotor effects with VNS, and as you have already
heard, cognitive and psychomotor effects can be a significant problem with
drugs and especially electroconvulsive therapy.
Of
course, as a device based approach, there is an absence of overdose toxicity,
which is a major problem with antidepressant drugs. Additionally, since it is not a drug therapy, you have the
ability to add VNS therapy to other drugs without a concern for a drug-drug
interaction.
Not
to be overlooked, because VNS doesn't require active participation by the
patient in the form of taking a pill every day, treatment compliance is
obviously high with this particular therapy.
And as you are all aware of, treatment compliance is a major, major
problem with all chronic disorders, but particularly psychiatric
disorders.
So
a lot of patients never get their prescriptions filled. if they get them filled, they don't take
them. If they take their pills, they
don't take all of them. So this alone,
I think, is a significant benefit for VNS therapy.
In
conclusion, data that I have shown you this morning shows us that VNS effects
on brain structures and neurotransmitters associated with mood regulation
provide a biological rationale for the use of VNS therapy in treatment
resistant depression.
Adjunctive
long term VNS therapy was more effective than a standard of care treatment
alone, and the p-value for that was less than 0.001 in the primary analysis.
The
differences versus standard of care are not explained by differences in the
baseline patient or disease characteristics, concomitant treatments or a
placebo effect.
The
improvements observed with adjunctive VNS therapy are largely sustained during
long term treatment. VNS therapy is
well tolerated and safe in depression clinical trials and clinical use in
epilepsy, and finally, VNS therapy has additional device related benefits
versus standard of care.
At
this point I would like to invite Dr. Rush to come back up and just give a few
closing remarks, and we will try to put these clinical data into a clinical
perspective.
DR.
RUSH: Thank you, Richard. I will be very brief. You have had to listen to a long series of
presentations.
I
want to just address the data and the information from the point of view of a
clinician. I have been doing clinical
work for 30 years and trial work for the same period of time.
It
is important to put into context again, as we tried to do at the beginning, to
remind you who it is that we are talking about that we are treating. These individuals, more than half had
previously had ECT, and it had not produced a sustained benefit. Many had just not even had a response to it
at all.
So
these are really the most treatment resistant, the most difficult and disabled
depressed patients that I have ever put into a trial anywhere and, as I
mentioned earlier, half would not have -- half of the ECT community sample
would not be eligible for our study.
To
give you a sense of how we recruited patients for this, it might give more of a
clinical feel. At least in Dallas, we
went out to the well known psychopharmacology masters, if you will, the people
that do advanced, complex medication management where treatment resistant
patients go.
We
asked them each to give us two, your very two worst, most difficult depressed
patients. That is how we recruited the
patients. So these are really very,
very difficult patients for whom we don't have an alternative.
The
second question is: Are the clinical
effects meaningful? I think, to gauge
the value of the clinical effects, you have to keep in mind three things. One is the population itself.
This,
as we have discussed, is a population where we really don't have much going,
and especially in the long run. So if
we can help one in four or one in five to actually achieve a response or better
-- and notice that some of our responders actually hit remission, and some of
the patients today are in remission -- that is a home run in a patient
population where we just don't see it in the long run. It just doesn't happen.
So
given the severity of the illness and its treatment resistant nature, and the
standard high threshold for benefit, 50 percent, we are looking at 37 percent
versus 12 percent using the CGI. So you are looking at a number needed to treat
of 4 or a number needed to treat of 5, if you use the Hamilton.
Those
are very significant benefits, especially when we are not looking at short
term. We are looking at the end of the
year, when we should, in fact, have lost territory, if you look at all the
other treatments that we have.
We
should have done better in the sort run and worse in the long run. In fact, we did not so great on the short
run, but really terrifically with this population in the long run. That is the "Duracell bunny keeps on
working" for most, not for everybody, as you saw from Dr. Rudolph's
presentation, but for most people there is a benefit that largely is sustained
at a year.
The
good news is some people who aren't benefitted early seem to come up with a
benefit later. We have looked at that
even over two years, and that seems to be a fact.
Could
this really be a placebo? I think,
looking at the population just per se, this is so unlikely it would be a
miracle to have a placebo of this magnitude that works for this long and that
consistently over time. It just would,
I think, be looking at it as a clinician, very, very unlikely.
Typically,
placebos, when they work, work early.
Well, we don't have as much early as we have later. So the timing is all wrong. Secondly, they wear off. Well, we seem to have an increasing benefit
over time. That would be a very unique
placebo. Finally, those that benefit
seem to have a sustained benefit, by and large. That also is unique, would not be easily attributed to placebo.
Finally,
the induction of hypomania: While it
was an adverse event here, it was more common, as you heard, in bipolar
disorder patients. We often look at
that clinically in antidepressant trials as an indicator that we have
antidepressant activity.
Then
finally, we have the experiment in nature, not conducted in any of the D
series, but several patients you heard who lost efficacy when their battery ran
down and achieved a recapture when the battery was replaced. Not an experiment that we could have done
early on, but one that is going on by nature.
Just
to put a final face on it and a comment on public health significance. I'll be quiet. I told you about this graduate student at the beginning. That individual entered the VNS study, and
he did very well. Within about two
months, he achieved remission. So this
is unusual. It is one of the earlier
responders.
He
has stayed in remission now for five years.
He finished his graduate school, got married, and has a child.
The
other comment I want to make is about the category of response. We are very used to the 50 percent, because
it comes from the nontreatment resistant world. Some of the patients
mentioned that any benefit to some degree is better than what we have
now, and you saw Dr. Rudolph talk a little about the 25 to 49 percent group, and
I just want to give you one patient in this regard.
This
is a lady who actually was not a responder, but she was a lady who was full
time employed, in her mid-forties, married with two children, one just about to
graduate from high school. She had had
depression, really, since her early twenties, largely on, sometimes off, and
the last several years more time -- roughly an eight-year episode, last
episode.
She
had received 80 ECT treatments. She was
in maintenance ECT. She was brought in
by her husband who said, the ECT is really helping her; it's the only way we
can keep her out of the hospital, but she is having these long term cognitive
difficulties and I really -- I can't allow her to go on and she, too, is
complaining of it.
So
we gave her the VNS treatment. It took
a while, probably about three to four months.
We kept her medication. So it's
past the end of -- Well, at the end of the study, in the three months where
medications were fixed, she had a 48 percent reduction in her Hamilton.
Then
we followed her out, medications largely fixed. We were very loathe to change medicine. She had been so fragile.
She had been in and out of hospital many, many times in the prior
several years. So we left her where we
were, adjusted the parameters. She
never hit response. She never hit a 50
percent reduction. She was always in
the forties..
So
she comes up as not a beneficiary in the classical definition. Good news is she
had been fired from her job because she couldn't function as a computer program
or information technology person about a year and a half before we
started. She wasn't able to be rehired
there. She worked for a large IT company, a famous name you
know. But she started a business in her
own home and was partially employed.
The
most important thing she said was, I got to see my son graduate from high
school. Excuse me. So even though we don't call them
responders, there are a number of people that actually really do quite well
with this. Not perfect, but a lot
better than what they had.
Then
finally, just let me make one comment about the public health perspective. I did these numbers, and I thought about it,
and it's so shocking to me, I thought I would share it with you.
Thirty
thousand people per year commit suicide.
Eighty percent are due to depression.
That is 24,000 people. Treatment
resistant depression is known to be the most lethal form of depression. Let's say half of those individuals that
commit suicide from depression have treatment resistant depression. That's 12,000 suicides a year. That is 1,000 suicides a month. That is one suicide every 45 minutes. That means we lost four of these individuals
in the last two and a half hours due to treatment resistant depression.
This
is not a panacea, obviously, but it is a high need and, if we can help one out
of five of these people with this treatment, I think it would be a tremendous
contribution. Thank you.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Thank you. I would like to thank the sponsor for their
presentation.
Given
the fact that we all have been sitting here for quite some period of time, I
think maybe it is appropriate to take a break now and reconvene in 15 minutes,
say at ten after eleven. Thank you.
(Whereupon,
the foregoing matter went off the record at 10:56 a.m. and went back on the
record at 11:14 a.m.)
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: If I could get everyone to
take their seats, we'll get the meeting restarted. Alright, thank you. It's
now 11:15 and we'll resume the meeting.
And we'll start with the FDA presentations on this PMA. The first FDA presenter is Carlos L. Pena,
Ph.D. Dr. Pena?
DR.
PENA: Good morning panel members. My name is Carlos Pena, and I am here today
from FDA to present to you the PMA application for the Vagus Nerve Stimulation
Therapy System proposed to treatment of resistant depression. I'm accompanied by Dr. Schlosser, medical
officer, who will be sharing with you safety data contained in the application,
and Dr. Lao, statistical officer, who will be sharing with you statistical data
contained in the application. And I'll
be providing the regulatory history of the VNS Therapy System, an overview of
VNS studies including efficacy data, and a closing summary.
The
sponsor has described the VNS Therapy System in some detail, which includes an
implantable pulse generator, lead, and external programming system. The sponsor seeks commercial approval for
the injunctive long-term treatment of chronic or recurring depression for
patients over the age of 18 who are experiencing a major depressive episode
that has not had an adequate response to two or more antidepressant
treatments. VNS has previously been
approved for use as an injunctive therapy in reducing seizures in patients
refractory to epileptic medications.
Regarding
the mechanism of action, no definitive mechanism of action has been reported
for the proposed indication for the injunctive long-term treatment of chronic
or recurrent depression.
I
will now discuss the regulatory history of the VNS Therapy System. Following FDA approval for epilepsy in 1997,
anecdotal reports of mood alteration were noted for some epilepsy
patients. And the sponsor conducted a
30-patient, later expanded to 60-patient, pilot study called D01. The pilot results led to the development of
the D02 study. The D02 pivotal study
included an acute, randomized, placebo-controlled phase -- the only randomized
placebo-controlled portion involving VNS studies discussed today -- as well as
long-term follow-up. The sponsor
un-blinded the acute phase of D02 in 2002, and found that the study failed to
demonstrate a statistically significant difference between responders in the
treatment arm and sham treatment control arm, the study's primary efficacy
endpoint.
Despite
the failed outcome, the sponsor claimed a pattern of increasing treatment
effect over time, and suggested that the full antidepressant effect of VNS
therapy might take longer. The sponsor
proposed to use a non-significant risk study, D04, as a reference group for
comparing to D02, long-term clinical data.
And FDA advised the sponsor of the serious concerns regarding the
ability of this comparison to demonstrate safety and effectiveness of their
device due to lack of a randomized subject data set. The sponsor submitted their application in October of 2003.
In
all, there are six studies that will be discussed today. During the first part of FDA's presentation
I will focus on the first three studies, called D01:, the pilot study, D02: the
pivotal study, and D04: the observation of control study. Other trials include D03 and D06, both of
which will be discussed further by Dr. Schlosser, and D05, which was a
videotape assessment of D02 study subjects only to ensure interrater
reliability in assessments. Which takes
us to a description of each study.
In
the D01 pilot study, this study was an open label, non-randomized, single
treatment arm, multi-center study. The
primary efficacy endpoint was the proportion of subjects that responded to
therapy, response defined as a 50 percent or more decrease reported as
improvement in the HAM-D score at post-treatment compared with the
baseline. The HAM-D, the Hamilton
Rating Scale for Depression, is a clinician's tool to rate depression.
Out
of a total of 71 subjects, 11 discontinued prior to implantation, 60 were
implanted, and 59 completed the acute phase.
Across various times during the pilot study, several subjects had
concomitant treatment changes. Six
subjects had changes in concomitant treatments during the four weeks prior to
their first visit post-implantation, twelve subjects had changes in concomitant
treatments during the acute phase, and three subjects received ECTs during the
long-term study, and a total of 77 serious adverse events were reported. And Dr. Schlosser will discuss these events
shortly.
At
the acute phase exit, 18 of 59 patients were responders, 25 of 55 patients were
responders at one year, and 18 of 42 patients were responders at two
years. Response defined by a greater
than 50 percent decrease in the HAM-D score compared with baseline.
The
pilot results led to the development of the D02 pivotal study. And the D02 pivotal study was comprised of
two phases, including a randomized controlled 12-week acute phase, and a
12-month follow-up evaluation period.
During the randomized controlled acute phase, subjects were required to
maintain a stable medication regimen, and during the long-term phase, changes
to the mood disorder treatments and ECT were allowed, and no concomitant
treatment criteria was provided in the clinical protocol. The primary efficacy endpoint of the acute
phase was the proportion of subjects who had greater than a 50 percent decrease
in the HAM-D at acute phase exit compared to baseline. And responders in the treatment group were
compared to the proportion of responders in the control group.
A
total of 266 subjects enrolled, 31 discontinued prior to implantation, leaving
235 patients that were implanted. The
second yellow box, green box on the left-hand side. And 222 patients were considered evaluable for efficacy
analyses. Of the 222 evaluable
subjects, 112 were randomized to treatment and 110 were randomized to sham
treatment control. And regarding the
long-term phase of enrollment, of the 235 subjects who were implanted, 233
subjects were identified as the safety population, 205 were considered
evaluable subjects, and 177 subjects were 12-month completers.
During
the acute phase, nine subjects had changes in concomitant treatments and noise
to use was reported. During the
long-term phase, changes in concomitant treatments were allowed, and 169
patients of the 205 evaluable subjects added or increased antidepressant
medications. In addition, 14 subjects
received ECT. Of those 14 subjects,
eight subjects were 12-month completers, four subjects were categorized as
responders, and two subjects were categorized as complete responders. And I would like to remind you that one of
our panel questions is related to the use of concomitant antidepressant
treatment changes, permissible in the treatment group, over the course of 12
months.
The
sponsor reported implantation related adverse events, stimulation related
adverse events, and other events from the D02 study. These results will also be discussed by Dr. Schlosser shortly.
The
primary efficacy endpoint failed to show a significant difference between
treatment subjects, those who received VNS, and sham treatment control
subjects, those who received regular care for treatment-resistant depression. In other words, the amount of improvement for
patients with VNS was not statistically significantly greater than the amount
of improvement when receiving standard care.
And other psychiatric measurement tools reported similar outcomes during
the acute phase.
Despite
the outcome of the acute phase, the sponsor submitted a revised statistical
plan with new primary efficacy endpoints, and employed an observational control
study for comparison. And the revised
statistical plan introduced the D04 control study.
The
design of the D04 study was to collect long-term clinical quality of life,
productivity, and health care utilization data on patients with
depression. The D04 study began towards
the end of the D02 study, and was a non-significant risk study conducted under
local IRB jurisdiction. Up to 130
patients enrolled, and standard of care was defined in the clinical protocol as
whatever treatment strategy the physician and the subject chose to follow.
Which
takes us to the D02/D04 comparison. The
objective of the D02/D04 comparison was to demonstrate that there is a
difference in the improvement of patients with VNS therapy plus treatment
compared to treatment as usual. The
design, schedule, sample size, concomitant treatments have all been described
previously. There was a total of 22
sites enrolling patients in either D02, D04, or both. And of those 22 sites, eight sites enrolled patients for D02
only, and one site enrolled patients for D04 only. And Dr. Lao will discuss statistical outcomes associated with the
use of overlapping and non-overlapping investigational sites.
The
majority of D04 subjects enrolled after D02 was closed. And sites that enrolled both the D02 and D04
patients usually screened and offered patients enrollment into D02 prior to
enrollment into D04, because D02 offered a new treatment as opposed to standard
of care, and sites were more focused on the treatment study rather than a
naturalistic observational study, D04.
During
the six months of overlap between D02 and D04, 83 percent of the patients who
met the enrollment criteria for the D02 study enrolled into D02. And 17 patients who met the enrollment
criteria for the D04 study enrolled into D04.
After D02 closed, clinical sites had a pool of subjects interested in
D02 that were also eligible for D04.
And subjects that could not enroll in D02 typically enrolled into
D04. And I would like to remind you
that another panel question you will discuss is related to the enrollment
outcomes of an investigational study versus an observational control study.
The
primary efficacy endpoint was a repeated measure of linear regression analysis
performed on raw IDS-SR scores of D02 and D04 patients. The IDS-SR is a self-assessment tool for
depression. And the HAM-D, the primary
efficacy assessment tool for D02 during the acute and long-term phase, was only
included as a baseline D04 assessment, and therefore was not adequate for
D02/D04 comparative analyses.
The
D02 study also collected safety data.
However, the D04 study did not prospectively or systematically collect
any safety data while studying treatment-resistant depression, and is an issue
determining whether the VNS Therapy System is safe for the proposed indication.
Evaluable
patient baseline demographics between D02 and D04 were for the most part
comparable. However, there were
significant differences in baseline demographics between D02 and D04, including
those patients who received ECT during their lifetimes, patients who received
ECT during the current major depressive episode, and patients in the control
population with greater than 10 lifetime episodes of depression. In addition, there are several patient
variables for which no information was collected, and have been reported in
published literature to influence treatment responsiveness. And unmeasured patient variables are also an
issue that we have provided as a question for your deliberations later today.
Now,
if we turn to the primary analysis comparing long-term outcomes between D02 and
D04, a statistically significant difference was observed in the estimated
IDS-SR raw scores per month between D02 and D04 at 12 months.
To
further evaluate the permissive use of concomitant treatments during the
long-term, the sponsor performed a second analysis, not specified in the
original or revised clinical protocols, and compensating for concomitant
treatment use. Namely, if a subject
added or increased antidepressant treatment, and their subsequent IDS-SR scores
prior to the change in concomitant treatments, last observation carryforward
approach was used. The difference
observed in the primary efficacy analysis was not statistically different from
improvement observed under standard of care.
In other words, there was no improvement difference between patients who
improved with VNS and those patients receiving standard of care. And this is another issue that we have posed
to you in the form of a panel question.
Aside
from the statistical numerical outcomes of one analysis over another, more
importantly, the overall permissive use of concomitant treatments during the
long-term study is an issue in determining the effectiveness of this
device.
And
now I'd like to turn the presentation over to Dr. Schlosser, who will be
discussing with you the safety data and the PMA.
DR.
SCHLOSSER: Good morning. I'm Dr. Michael Schlosser. I'm a medical officer in the division
reviewing this device. And I'm going to
briefly talk about some of the safety data and the PMA.
I'm
going to start by clarifying some of the terms. The sponsor purported the data, the safety data, looking at
adverse events, and then also looking at treatment-emergent or stimulation
related adverse events. And so I'm
going to talk about those two categories.
And then as a third category there were these serious adverse
events. And so, throughout the slides
I'm going to be talking about each of those three different groups, and I'll
try to explain exactly which group we're looking at at the time.
Because
a lot of the events we're talking about were stimulation related adverse events,
I wanted to talk briefly about the stimulation parameters that were used in the
protocol, just to start with.
Specifically, I'm just going to focus on the current output. Current output was limited to 0.25 to 3.5
milliamps by protocol in the IDE. The
adjustment protocol called for increasing this output by 0.25 milliamps in
steps until a maximum tolerable level was achieved. Programmers were specifically instructed to warn patients that
higher level of stimulation and stimulation related adverse events did not
necessarily correspond to higher efficacy.
In the protocol, it was listed that this was based on experience with
the epilepsy patients, and therefore the programmers were instructed to tell
the patients not to tolerate events that they really would normally not
tolerate because they thought it was going to improve their efficacy.
Stimulation
was to be decreased any time a patient reported that there was a painful or
troubling adverse event. And the
programmers were instructed to continue to increase the current during the
programming phase in order to try to reach that maximum tolerable level during
the two-week programming phase of the acute phase of the study. It was also noted in the protocol, and in
the instructions to the programmers that any individual patient may have very
different responses to different current levels, and they even went as far as
to say that there may be some patients for who 0.25 milliamps would be the
maximum tolerable setting, and that that should be expected and not an area of
concern.
In
April, 2005, Cyberonics sent a letter to the D02 investigators instructing a
new stimulation protocol. This was to
be implemented in patients who had a HAM-D score of greater than 10, which was
their definition for non-responders at that point in the chronic study. This protocol specified a ramp-up period of
six weeks during which, and this is a quote from the letter, several attempts
should be made to increase output current to a level of 1.5 milliamps. It was also recommended that patients
undergoing the ramp-up procedure be seen more frequently, every two weeks, but
as frequently as every week, during the ramp-up period. And it was additionally recommended that if
patients couldn't tolerate 1.5 milliamps, that an adjustment be made to -- I'm
sorry, an adjustment be made to the pulse width in order to decrease it to 250
milliseconds, which may facilitate an increase in current levels.
So,
now moving more specifically to the safety data. I'm just going to go through the different studies that we've
already heard about this morning and talk about the safety data presented for
each. There were 60 subjects in
D01. Every subject reported at least
one adverse event. The most common
adverse events, which were reported in at least 10 subjects, were device site
pain, headache, incisional pain, neck pain, dysphasia, increased cough,
dyspnea, and voice alteration. These
are kind of the common adverse events that we're going to see though the rest
of the slides. They're also similar to
the events known to occur during stimulation in epilepsy patients.
There
were 77 serious adverse events reported across 38 of the patients. So greater than 50 percent of the patients
had a serious adverse event. The most
common being 12 suicide attempts or overdose events, and 34 cases of worsening
depression. These are incidences of
events, not number of patients. There
was one death as a complication of surgery due to rectal prolapse.
In
the acute study, now looking just at the acute D02 phase, 235 implanted
patients. There were 233 reporting an
adverse event. So, again, nearly every
patient reporting adverse events. The
events were classified in the PMA as mild, moderate, or severe. Mild was defined as easily tolerated and
transient. Moderate as caused
discomfort and interrupted usual activities.
And severe, considerable interference with usual activities.
As
you can see, there was a very large number of adverse events in both
groups. It's important that we
obviously look at the adverse events in both of these groups since they both
had the surgical procedure and the implant.
They were both exposed to risk.
There was 61 severe adverse events in the treatment group and 73 severe
adverse events in the sham control group.
The difference between the adverse event rates to the treatment in sham
control group probably relates to stimulation related adverse events, which I'm
going to come to.
This
is now just looking, again, at just all adverse events in the D02 acute
phase. So these are not graded in any
way as to their relationship to the device or to stimulation. And we can see the most common adverse event
was clearly voice alteration, which was very common. Eighty-one patients, 68 percent of the treatment group; 44
patients, 37 percent in the sham control group. And then again, these are those adverse events that I read in
that first slide that are going to be the ones we're going to see over and over
again: device site reaction, device site pain, incisional pain, dysphasia, incision
site reaction, cough, dyspnea. Similar
events that you would expect given the direct stimulation to the Vagus nerve.
This
slide now kind of focuses in a little bit on events. These are treatment-emergent adverse events that were rated as
possibly, probably, or definitely related to stimulation. So this was a cut made by the investigators
in the study. When they reported the
events, they would then report whether they thought the event was related to
stimulation. So you can see, it's the
same type of list. It's really the same
adverse events. There are very few of
these events listed in the sham control group, which makes sense because these
were events that the investigators determined were related to stimulation. So it's obvious that the investigators were
able to pick up which events were related to stimulation and which patients
weren't getting stimulation.
We've
heard this morning that these events are similar in their frequency and in
their nature to the events seen in the epilepsy study. I'm going to come back to that in one of my
last slides. But I'll just make the
point at this point that in this situation, we're comparing the adverse events
and risks seen in patients with depression, to the benefit of this device in
depression. And the safety of the
device in another population doesn't necessarily mean that that device is safe
in this different population. And the
risk/benefit ratio must be looked at separately.
Moving
on to serious adverse events. Just as a
reminder, the definition of a serious adverse event is an event that resulted
in death, a life-threatening event, hospitalization, prolongation of a current
hospitalization, or a persistent disability.
There were 39 such events. Nine
occurred prior to implantation in the acute phase. So there were a total of 30 adverse events occurring between
implantation and acute phase exit, 16 in the treatment control group and 14 in
the sham control group.
If
we look at these events individually, again, we have the most common is depression. I'm going to mention some things about the
depression as an adverse event in a study of depression in another slide. But that was the most common serious adverse
event. There was one suicide in the
treatment group, none in the sham group.
There were two cardiac events of note, an asystole and a bradycardia,
both of which rose to the level of a serious adverse event. And then one wound infection. And then you can just go down the list,
noticing that these numbers are small and there's one or two patients on either
side. So there really are no
statistical differences to be examined between treatment and sham control
groups. And again, both groups were
exposed to the device, and so, really, adverse events in both groups should
really be included in the safety profile.
If
we look now at the chronic phase of the D02 study, again, this is just serious
adverse events. We see seven suicide
attempts in six patients, four episodes of syncope in three patients, and then
gastrointestinal disorder, convulsion, one episode of sudden death. I'm going to come back to sudden death at
the end. And then by far and away the
most common reported serious adverse event in the chronic phase was depression,
62 instances in 31 patients. The
sponsor in the PMA explains that this probably represents a lack of efficacy of
device rather than a true adverse event of the device.
Moving
on to the D03 study. We haven't looked
at the D03 study in the FDA presentation yet, so I'm just going to review the
clinical protocol quickly. This was an
open label, non-randomized, single arm, longitudinal study. It's the post-market study in Europe. It actually began before the CE mark, but
the majority of the study has actually occurred afterwards. So it became a post-marketing study. Antidepressant treatment changes were
allowed in this study, and the primary efficacy endpoint was a portion of
subjects with a 50 percent response on the Hamilton rating scale at 12 weeks
compared to baseline.
Safety
data was collected in this study, and provided to us. Looking at just, again, the serious adverse events, 47 subjects
implanted, 14 serious adverse events in those 47 subjects. Again, the most common, four cases of
worsening depression. There were two
suicides, which were also the only two deaths in the study. And then down the list, bacterial infection,
accidental overdose, accidental injury, one case of syncope, and then
gallstones, kidney stones, and kidney pain.
I
won't go over specifically what the stimulation related non-serious adverse
events were for D03. But as per the
sponsor's submission, they were similar to those seen in D02 and D01 and in
epilepsy studies.
The
D06 clinical protocol. This was a pilot
study of safety and efficacy in rapid cycling bipolar, as we heard. Standard bipolar disorder patients were
included in D02, but rapid cycling patients were not. This was a separate study looking at that population by
itself. It was again an open label,
non-randomized, single arm study, so it was not designed to be an efficacy
study, but did collect safety data, which we have. There were 11 subjects enrolled.
Only seven actually implanted. And
two subjects had one-year follow-up only, so we don't really have long
follow-up on these patients.
We
do have safety results. Again, I'm
focused on serious adverse events.
There was one suicide, three suicide attempts, one prior to
implantation, two cases of worsening depression, and one case of manic
reaction. So seven events in seven
patients, though two subjects reported two events each.
Now
we heard this morning about the specific focus on suicide. Obviously, published literature and recent
experience has taught us that in very rare cases, antidepressant medications
can precipitate suicidal behavior.
There were 12 suicide attempts or overdoses in D01. The D02 acute phase had one suicide in the
treatment group, none in the control.
The long-term phase of D02 had seven suicide attempts in six
patients. That was by the cutoff date
for submission of the PMA. Since then
there have been two more attempts in two additional patients. D03 study had two suicides. We don't have the report of attempts. And D06 had one suicide and two attempts in
seven patients. So enough to make us
concerned that there might be something to precipitation of suicide by this
device, or at least to look at it more carefully. Again, a reminder that safety data was not collected in D04 for
comparison.
This
is kind of a busy slide, but what we're looking at here is the D02 acute phase
on the top, and then comparative data, which includes a combined D01, D02, and
D03 group on the bottom. So treatment
group versus sham control group. Very
small n here, only one suicide in the treatment group, none in the sham group,
and no attempts. So tough to make a
comparison, though, 4.3 percent versus zero percent. But the numbers are small.
In
the larger comparative data we're looking now at a larger group, 342 patients
in the combined analysis. And we see,
as the sponsor showed this morning, if we look at instances of suicide per
year, 0.4 percent. This is, again,
comparison to this Khan Study, which was this very large meta-analysis of drug
studies used for approval. And there we
had a 0.8 percent rate in the treatment group, and a 0.4 percent rate in the
placebo group. So similar numbers of
instances of suicides per year and suicide attempts per year between the D01,
D02, D03 combined and the meta-analysis.
Now,
I mentioned I would come back to the epilepsy data. This is a chart that represents the stimulation related adverse
events in the E-O5 study, which was the pivotal study for VNS for treatment of
epilepsy. And again, you see this very
similar list of adverse events that we've seen on all the previous slides:
cough, dyspnea, hoarseness and voice alteration being the common events. This was a comparison between baseline and
then high levels of stimulation. So
these are actually patients compared to themselves. And we see, you know, they all reach levels of statistical
significance. So these are all adverse
events that are related to the stimulation, and they can be bothersome to the
patient.
But
again, I'll just restate that the determination of safety is not done in a
vacuum. It's done as a risk/benefit
analysis, comparing to the benefit or the efficacy of the device. And so the safety in the epilepsy population
does not necessarily mean safety in the depression population. The adverse events must be weighed in
relationship to the benefit shown by the efficacy studies.
And
then finally I'm just going to finish by talking about cardiovascular
events. I mentioned the one sudden
death in the D02 study. There were
also, I believe, two cases of sudden death in the epilepsy studies, and cases
reported in the MDRs as well, very rare incidence of sudden death. There is a concern that this might be due to
cardiac events due to the direct vagal nerve stimulation. Could this be causing a cardiac event that
led to sudden death?
So
we looked just kind of specifically at what cardiovascular events were
seen. The events in red are the serious
adverse events. This whole column is in
red, even the zeroes, because I have not included the non-serious adverse
events for the chronic phase. There
were many, and in many cases they were the same patient reporting the same
adverse event at each visit. For
example, bradycardia. But there was no
action taken. There was no action
needed. And so those numbers were very
large, but not necessarily meaningful.
So the serious adverse events in the chronic phase: four cases of
syncope, one case of dizziness. And
then when we look at the acute phase, the case of asystole and bradycardia
which I've already mentioned, and then several other cases of arrhythmia,
hypertension, 10 cases of palpitation, 21 cases of dizziness. I should mention that of course there are
many causes for dizziness, so while we lump this under cardiovascular events,
there obviously can be other reasons why people can be dizzy. Vasodilatation and syncope.
So
there were cardiac events. We don't
have any evidence of sudden death due to a cardiac event from vagal nerve
stimulation, but it's just something to keep in mind in terms of the safety
profile of the device.
Now
I'm going to turn it back over to Dr. Pena for a review.
DR.
PENA: So in review, regarding safety,
the absence of systematically collected safety data in the observational
control study for comparison to the investigational study is an issue in
determining whether the clinical data in the PMA provides reasonable assurance
that the device is safe for the proposed indication.
And
regarding efficacy, FDA has identified the following issues, including first,
the chief limitation that the long-term D02/D04 comparative analysis is not
derived from a randomized subject data set, but rather a comparison of outcomes
from an investigational device study and observational control study. And a propensity adjustment strategy used to
reduce potential bias in the comparative analysis is not able to address the
problems of potential bias due to other unmeasured patient variables.
I
would also mention that the sponsor noted in correspondence to FDA that both
the D02 and D04 population would not differ on measured factors upon submitting
their revised analysis, and that if they did, one could not be as confident in
their statistical adjustment for baseline differences. FDA's uncertain whether one can reconcile
the sponsor's statement in their own submission concerning there were relevant
measured patient variables found to be significantly different between groups.
Second,
FDA's concerned with the potential placebo effect rates for patients with
VNS. The sponsor has discussed in some
detail reasons why long-term outcomes from VNS patients are not due to placebo. Data provided in the submission identifies a
placebo response rate of 10 percent, as defined by the clinician's measurement
scale HAM-D, which persisted to the exit of the acute phase, namely 12 weeks.
Also,
although both D02 and D04 were available to enrolled subjects at similar time
periods, almost all D04 subjects enrolled into the study after D02 was closed
for enrollment. Only 10 D04 subjects
enrolled into D04 while D02 was open.
And the sponsor has indicated that sites were more focused on the
treatment study rather than the naturalistic observational control study.
And
third, moving past the insignificant numerical outcomes upon censoring scores
of VNS patients with concomitant treatments, and using their last observation
carried forward, FDA is concerned that concomitant medications an ECT use were
not standardized in either the D02 long-term study or the D04 observational
control study. And I would also mention
that when a patient adds or increases treatment, one can reasonably expect that
patients are not responding, or poorly responding to their current therapy
regimen. And one would be unsure of the
cause of the patient's improvement to subsequent additions or increases in
antidepressant treatments.
At
this time, I would now like to turn it over to Dr. Lao, who will be presenting
the statistical data contained in the PMA submission.
DR.
LAO: Good morning, my name is Chang
Lao, Division of Biostatistics, FDA.
Today I am going to present a comparison between D02 and D04. D02 is the VNS plus standard care. D04 is standard care only. And the primary/secondary efficacy endpoint
is HRSD-24, is the Hamilton Rating Scale for depression, 24 items. Maximum score 74. IDS-SR is maximum 84.
In
the multi-center study, 22 sites, and overlapping Site 12. I'm going to talk overlapping sites later
on. And then talk about propensity
score analysis, try to test covariates in pairings. And then repeat a measure in the concordance study, try to
predict an HRSD from IDS-SR. Then there
is a statistical conclusion.
This
is a D02, a brief summary on all 22 sites combined. In the three-month actual study, which is double-blind,
randomized, VNS was a sham control.
Primary HRSD, parameter, and IDSS-SR is secondary. And primary endpoint is the comparison to
response proportion. The final result
based on three-month actual study, the significant difference was found for the
IDSS-SR, which is 17 percent, VNS was 7.5 percent sham, 0.03 based on psych
test. No significant differences were
found for the HRSD.
Then
after three months, every patient was switched into VNS. So the primary endpoint for D02 only is
HRSD. Try to estimate a slope for every
radar change, scope must -- we try to estimate a mean response score when you
study. The slope average amounts of
change in HR score 0.45 per month.
Which is standard endpoint of 0.05/95 company's interval.
D02
and D04, long-term comparison, the endpoint is average rate of change, which is
slope estimate average mean score per quarter by repeated measure and
integration. And the longitudinal data
for the HRSD, D02 yes, D04 no. Because
it only had a baseline and 12 months data only. So the sponsor switches to IDSS now because they had both
longitudinal data. And to do the
repeated measure of lineal regression.
Secondary
endpoints is a proportional response based on the 50 percent reduction in score
from baseline. This is a sample size
table for the -- all the 22 sites, overlapping sites. Overlapping site means some site had both D02 and D04. As you can see, this sample size here, in
the overlapping site the sample size is much smaller than the other 22 sites
combined. By the way, sample size was
based on the secondary endpoint.
Compare the proportion of the response between the two groups. Not based on the primary endpoint.
This
chart illustrates the patient by study and center for the D02 and D04
comparison. As you can see, about nine
sites which had a D02, but no D04 study, and one site had D04 and no D02
studies. So overall, 10 sites out of 22
sites, which are roughly about 45 percent, no comparison group for those
sites. The study design is incomplete
and unbalanced. And it's hard to
evaluate a true homogenous cross center.
A true center interaction effect cannot be evaluated.
Propensity
score analysis, which is when you have many, many confounding covariates
present. Then the propensity score
actually is overall composite scalar, sure to intend to reduce by comparison
between D02 and D04. It took the best
covariate only. Propensity score is a
condition of probability of individual patients receiving D02. Condition even a set of IS patients, of best
covariate, XI. We have total 17
covariates. Before after propensity
score adjustment, use of logistic regression, which is a logit. Logit is a proportion of success to no
success, probability of no success.
Logit, log of that, actually is a probability assigned to D02
conditioned on a set of covariates.
Vector X for the IS patient. The
furnishing of the vector for a covariate for IS patient. So some basis of logistic regression.
Primary
effectiveness analysis and repeated measure analysis, which its purpose is to
estimate every radar change per month, or to estimate the mean response at 12
months, which is general mean response mode.
We are interested in only comparing the mean, scope, from baseline
between D02, D04, at 12 months, not individual patients performance, which were
required for random effect mode. So the
dependent variable here, IDSS, independent variable is the baseline IDSS-SR,
treatment in either D02 or D04, or time, four quarters. And the PS quantum five level group by the
Propensity Scale for each individual patient.
Nine pool sites from 22 sites.
And measured by time interaction and the special power correlation which
allowed the correlation to change over time.
And so missing random. Probably
we are missing data in future. All
absent data is independent, missing data independent from the future of this
issue. Next.
Concordance
study shows how good are the ideas of particular HRSD. And the statistics uses a correlation of
linear regression. Outcome is a
correlation coefficient intercept slope R-square. R-square is a percent variable, about a mean of HRSD, explained
by the future regression model. How
much can explain by the independent variable, IDS-SR?
A
range of R squares, zero to one. Zero
is the worst fate. One is perfect
fate. So if R squared equals one, that
means the IDSS-SR can predict HR very well.
If zero, then no prediction at all.
This
is a value, the top number is the repeated measure linear regression
result. All the 22 sites combined. And top of the graph, the number there is
each quarter observed predictive value of mean score, at each quarter for D02
and D04. At the bottom of the chart,
there, you see the difference. D02
minus D04, observed at -6.6, which is not adjusted for any patient covariate,
individual patient baseline data, or propensity score.
The
predicted value after one year is minus 4.8, which is a reduced improvement at
one year. This is for all 22 sites
combined. If we look only for the 12
overlapping sites, the 12 have both D02 and D04. Then the improvement, at the bottom of the chart you can see that
at one year, the improvement -- difference about 1.4 points. And the 95 confidence even before that
difference, D02 minus D04, minus 3.82, minus 0.5. That's based on 12 overlapping sites.
This
is a result for the concordance study, as I talked before. R-square, the position of R-square by this
histogram. You would like to see the
R-square equal close to one as possible best prediction. If close to zero, no prediction at all. The mean of this distribution of 235
evaluable patients, D02 study, of 0.55.
Which means about 55 percent variability, and above the mean of the HRSD
data, explained by IDSS-SR. So I would
say it is, R-square is kind of in the middle.
So concordance study, also you can look at the correlation coefficient
and the slope. The mean correlation is
about 0.70. And undefined of 0.67 to
0.73. And the slope, we use the average
rate of change for the HRSD, for every unit change of IDS-SR.
Second
endpoint is a definition of IDS-SR or HRSD score larger than 50 percent
reduction from baseline. Statistics
have several concerns here. Treat it
like all the 22 sites as one site because the sponsor combined all the
responses and non-response by D02, D04, combined together from those 22
sites. So it looks like the data all
comes from one site. So no treatment in
the baseline interaction was considered here.
And supposed to talk about logistic regression for the response rate
comparison to response proportion. But
I don't see it. The covariate only
appear in the linear regression analysis.
So no pooling of the data, no modern approach, no covariate adjustment,
like a baseline IDSS or HRSD site ECT RX used.
One
reminder. IDSS is a baseline which was
highly significant in the repeated measure regression. And also pool site is highly
significant. So the unclear why to
compare two proportion responses.
Summary. Three months double-blind randomized
provided most for VNS. You know, this
provisional study kind of weak in variable patients, all 22 sites. HRSD and the PY 0.3 second IDS-SR, which is
0.039 second. Based on two-sided
extract test.
So
the switch from primary HR to the two second endpoints, IDS-SR, in long-term
study. Summary. In a way, the D02/D04 study is
non-randomized, un-blinded. Propensity
score were used for balance of a measured covariate only. Approximately the balance seemed to have
achieved. Look at the difference of
propensity score between the D02 and D04.
Reasonable balance in PS quintiles.
PS balance individual patient covariate, which is good. But, PS propensity score cannot balance unmeasured
covariates selected by -- not accounted for by covariate, regression to the
mean providing a placebo effect.
Summary. Data one can follow. If antidepressant resistant ratings score
increased, and/or ECT was applied, the prior IDS-SR HRSD score was carried
forward to the place subsequent. Now
we're missing observation. Unclear
effect of analysis in preparation of these for censored analysis, which we
based on definition above. It's kind of
not easy.
Now,
over to D02/D04 site. Nine sites they
had at D02, one site at D04. No
D04. Only 12. Reduce the sample size by one-third. PS used nine pooled sites in the repeated measure. So it only partly accounts for the
imbalance. And also used only 12 over
the sites. Show a last effect.
This
is the difference D02/D04 in repeated measure regression for IDS after one
year. We have different end result
here. Covariate -- observe just for
covariate, based on raw data. The
average difference after one year, about 6.6.
Ninety-five confidence interval, about -10 to the -3.2. And it's just by covariate. All the 22 sites are about 4.8, with a 95
confidence interval. But if we use the
overlapping site, we censor data. Then
implement only cut it down to 2.1 points.
And the 95 confidence interval minus 3.842, minus 0.54.
Always
think of the 95 confidence interval rather than P value is more
meaningful. Because P value only tests
low hypothesis. The true difference
equals zero. Equals zero doesn't
equivalent -- may not be equivalent to the true clinical difference.
Summary. Unclear concordance study. Ask why 235 patients, about 0.55, which is
kind of, you know, it's hard to say. It
is not perfect predictor, anyway. And
the way we estimate a mean difference IDS-SR, D02 minus D04, minus 2.1 unit to
4.8 unit, depending on which data you use, minus 2.1 with baseline of 12
overlapping sites of 4.8 points with all 22 sites. This improvement is clinically meaningful.
So
this is based on the second endpoint, based on 12 months proportion of response
based on 12 overlapping sites only. The
only significant difference for the nine site data and all the 22 sites was
0.001. The main comparison source of
data for the 12 overlapping sites didn't show any significant difference
between the D02 and D04, for the second endpoint.
This
ends my talk. Thank you.
DR.
PENA: Panel members. The management of treatment-resistant
depression is a therapeutic challenge to clinicians, and many such patients
continue to lack adequate treatment options.
However, any proposed device would need to have balanced scientific
evidence to establish reasonable assurance of the safety and effectiveness of
its use. Thus FDA has drafted five
panel questions for your discussions in the afternoon session. At this time, FDA has completed its
presentation, and we wait for instructions by the chairperson.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Thank you. We have about 45 minutes until the lunch
break, so I think I'd like to open the session up for questions by the panel to
the FDA presenters initially. Does
anybody on the panel have a question for the FDA presenters?
DR.
ELLENBERG: Yes, I wonder if you would
mind bringing up the slide again for the covariate adjustment. I believe it was the third from the end in
the statistical analysis. I'm afraid I
didn't understand the presentation.
DR.
PENA: Which slide did you refer to?
DR.
ELLENBERG: It's the third from the
end. It's titled Difference D02 minus
D04 in IDS-SR improvement by one year.
DR.
LAO: If you don't observe -- it's just
based on observed only. And the
sponsor's presentation shows after one year the difference, about 6.6 point
difference with 95 confidence interval -10 to the -3.2. That's didn't use any statistics, just use
the raw data, observed data. But --
DR.
ELLENBERG: So that is not with any
propensity score adjustment? Is that
what you're saying, that's the first row?
DR.
LAO: Yes. You are right.
DR.
ELLENBERG: And then the second row is?
DR.
LAO: Use the repeated measure linear
regression, which use the propensity score adjustment. Also, individual patients' IDS-SR
score. And the ninth --
DR.
ELLENBERG: Wait, wait. So the second one is -- they're both done
through the IDS-SR?
DR.
LAO: Yes.
DR.
ELLENBERG: Both rows?
DR.
LAO: Yes.
DR.
ELLENBERG: Alright. And the second row includes the PS
adjustment. I believe the sponsor
indicated that in the linear regression modeling, that the propensity score
adjustment was not significant.
DR.
LAO: That's right.
DR.
ELLENBERG: Is that clear? Okay.
So, in the second row you are presenting this data, and you're doing it
for all 22 sites, and then for the 12 sites that are overlapping.
DR.
LAO: Yes.
DR.
ELLENBERG: So you give two
results. And what is the point you're
making?
DR.
LAO: Making is because total 22
site. Ten site incomplete, missing,
that didn't have the both D02/D04 study.
So there's no comparison can be made for those 10 sites. So I would think you're using 12 sites which
you had both D02/D04 study can do a meaningful comparison with each site.
DR.
ELLENBERG: So you believe that using
the overlapping sites only is a more legitimate comparison than 22 sites?
DR.
LAO: Yes.
DR.
ELLENBERG: Okay. I understand that. And then, in terms of differences between what the sponsor
presented on the first row and what you're showing for the 12 overlapping
sites, they're both below zero. The
confidence interval are both below zero.
So, are you making a claim that there is a difference in the differences
here?
DR.
LAO: You have some difference
here. But the confidence interval
leaves some clinical decision here.
DR.
ELLENBERG: Right. So you're just stating that the company's
interval is different from the interval you get with the 12 overlapping sites.
DR.
LAO: Yes.
DR.
ELLENBERG: And also -- I'm not sure why
that's important if the propensity score wasn't statistically significant.
DR.
LAO: The propensity score is only one
of the covariates used in the linear regression. There are some other nine pooled sites, or individual IDS-SR
baseline data which is highly significant.
DR.
ELLENBERG: I'm sorry, I'm not following
that at all. Start again?
DR.
LAO: Patient baseline data, IDS-SR.
DR.
ELLENBERG: That was not included in the
propensity score?
DR.
LAO: That was included in the repeated
measure linear regression.
DR.
ELLENBERG: In addition to the
propensity score?
DR.
LAO: Yes. Yes.
DR.
ELLENBERG: And so this analysis with
the 12 overlapping sites includes those baseline scores?
DR.
LAO: Yes.
DR.
ELLENBERG: And the first row for the
sponsor submission did not include those covariate baseline scores?
DR.
LAO: First row -6.6 didn't use any
covariate adjustment, didn't use any repeated measure linear regression, just
--
DR.
ELLENBERG: Okay, thank you. I understand.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Are there any other questions
for the FDA presenters?
DR.
ELLENBERG: Yes, I'm sorry. An additional question. Another statistical question. Can you explain to panel why it's important
that if you're using all of the sites in an analysis as was done by the
sponsor, you thereby, since you don't have complete overlap, are eliminating
the possibility of looking at any differences in the results by site. In other words, the more technical term, the
site by treatment interaction can't be estimated.
Can
you explain to the panel why for this particular PMA looking at the site by
interaction would be extremely important, moderately important, very
important. Are their hints in what
you've seen in the data that it's really critical to look at the site by
treatment interaction, or are you just making a statement that one always looks
at the site by treatment interaction because there may be differences and we
would want to see that?
DR.
LAO: The idea that you would like to
see the treatment effect D02 minus D04 difference is homogenous across
center. So then you can try to use the
statistical model to pool data, get overall evidence, summary evidence from all
the sites. But if you have the 10 sites
without a comparison group then the statistical model would be very difficult
to the pooling of the data.
DR.
ELLENBERG: I understand that, but is
there something in the data that you've seen for what the D02 minus D04
difference is looking at them by site that would hint to you that this is
something we should be concerned with?
DR.
LAO: Yes. Hopefully they go the same direction. D02 is always superior to D04 for most of the sites. Not necessarily for all the sites, but for most
of the sites. If you see the opposite
direction, if you saw within some site D04 superior than D02, or other way
around, then you wonder is it a correlative interaction there. You wonder how can you combine the
data. Is something going on there
that's not only due to treatment effect, maybe due to site effect.
DR.
ELLENBERG: But are you presenting a
hypothetical, or are you seeing the data in a way that indicates --
DR.
LAO: No, I didn't see the data.
DR.
ELLENBERG: Alright, so let me restate
what I think your point is. In general,
there could be an interaction between the treatment and the sites, which in lay
terms simply means that the treatment effect might be different by sites. The treatment effect could be different by
sites in two major ways. One way is
that it's -- the treatment effect is considerably less in some sites than in
other sites. Another way is that the
treatment effect is entirely different in some sites than other sites. So it's useful to, at a minimum, review the
site differences, and at a maximum be able to model through using a technical
term, an interaction term, in the model.
But there's no evidence that you've seen from the data that indicates
that there is a treatment by site interaction of either sort. Has that made your point correctly?
DR.
LAO: Yes, you are right.
DR.
ELLENBERG: Thank you.
DR.
LAO: The difficult point is here this
is not a randomized trial. So the
sample size for some sites is very small.
You really cannot make a meaningful comparison for those sites with
small sample size. Not enough power.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: There's another question for
the FDA presenters. Dr. Wang?
DR.
WANG: What I'm interested in is your
possible reasons for that discrepancy in the acute phase D02 results depending
on which measure is used. Maybe
actually if you can go back to Dr. Lao's slide, it's the one, D02 Brief
Summary. It shows the acute phase
results. There it is. What's your -- you've shown us that the
correlation is moderate at best between the HAM-D and the IDS. What is your suggestion here? Is it that the -- someone suggested the IDS
is maybe a more relevant modern measure of the depression constructs. Or potentially this is a self-report measure
and you could imagine maybe being more prone to bias or a placebo effect? What's your sort of reasoning here?
DR.
PENA: Well, we have concerns regarding
the various psychometric tools that were used to measure effectiveness during
the acute phase. So, while the IDS-SR
demonstrates statistical significance between the viable patient population,
there were other psychometric measurement tools that did not demonstrate
statistical significance. So that makes
us wonder if the outcomes, really how strong those outcomes are across
different measurement tools.
Some
of those measurement tools include the HAM-D, the BDI, the SF-36, and the
MADRS, Montgomery Ashberg Depression Rating Scale.
DR.
WANG: What is your sort of suggested or
proposed weakness of the IDS-SR?
DR.
PENA: Well, you would want -- we
haven't arrived at a conclusion. We
have serious concerns, though, with only one scale able to demonstrate
statistical significance in acute phase period.
DR.
LAO: If you look at the histogram for
the R-square, the prediction varies from patient to patient. That's the point there. Some patients predict very well. Some patients no prediction at all.
DR.
PENA: I'd just like to add one
comment. And it's one of the reserve
slides that we do have. During the
acute phase, in both the treatment group and the sham treatment control group,
there were four subjects that were categorized as a responder, but neither were
in either the HAM-D or the IDS-SR. They
were responders in one, not the other.
So it's further concerns regarding the concordance and the outcomes of
one tool over another, and the strength of the data.
DR.
WITTEN: I think you also might want to
note that it's not -- there's not the same totals. If you look at the slide that you were referring to for Dr. Lao,
there's not the same total of patients.
It's a relatively small number that aren't in both groups. But it's a small number that's a
difference. Numerically, they were
successful in both groups.
DR.
WANG: The non-responders might be an
extreme.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Any further questions for the
FDA? Dr. Malone?
DR.
MALONE: On the D02 acute, I think you
did have a slide that said it was a failed study because the primary efficacy
measure was not met? Is that right?
DR.
PENA: Right. The acute phase data, the outcome of that acute phase failed to
reach its primary efficacy endpoint. So
it failed to reach that prospective outcome.
DR.
MALONE: So my understanding would be if
you want to do all these other tests, you have to start doing corrections for
them. Because you're doing multiple
tests. I mean, but regardless of that,
it's a failed study. Is that
right? If you take the primary outcome
measure?
DR.
PENA: Correct.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: If there are no further
questions for the FDS, perhaps we can start taking some questions for the
sponsor at this time before we break for lunch.
Actually,
I'll get things rolling by just asking a very simplistic question. If the sponsor wants to take the table. I was wondering how you chose the 12-week
time frame for the acute study, which seemed not to be effective, but in the
long term it was. Why did you initially
choose that acute time frame? And when
you saw that the study was negative, why didn't you continue in a randomized
sham controlled fashion?
DR.
RUDOLPH: The 12-week period is pretty
standard for a drug trial. So we were
following the pattern that's been used for drug trials. They're typically nowadays eight to twelve
weeks. So that's the explanation for
why it was set up that way initially.
I
think the second part of your question was why didn't you just extend that
longer. Well, by the time of course we
un-blinded the results for that acute phase, the patients were all beyond the
acute phase, so there wasn't an opportunity to continue it as a double-blind
randomized trial.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: There wasn't the opportunity
just to continue stimulating one group and not stimulating the other group?
DR.
RUDOLPH: Well, by the time that we saw
the results, the sham treatment patients had already crossed over into the
continuation long-term VNS stimulation.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Okay. Further questions for the sponsor?
DR.
ELLENBERG: Yes, if I may. In reviewing the material and in hearing the
superb presentations today by the sponsor, it seems to me that the analyses
that have been presented in detail make every attempt to cover the issue of
potential bias in making comparisons between one group of patients who have the
essentially standard of care plus the VNS versus another group of patients who
had basically equivalent standard of care.
But patients that based on the FDA testimony just finished might not
overlap totally in time, patients that might not be coming from the same
centers, and most importantly patients that were not randomized to the two
treatment arms.
At
the end of the day, I wonder if you could respond to a reasonably direct
question, whether the analyses that you have presented today make the
presentation and our job in terms of making a recommendation to FDA based on a
non-randomized comparison an okay decision.
Can you try and help me to understand why there is not a need to do a
new randomized study to make this comparison based on the initial findings,
which looked extremely promising, especially after all the analyses that you
presented today. Can you just help at
least me, if not the rest of the panel, in arguing the case?
DR.
RUDOLPH: Certainly.
DR.
ELLENBERG: Thank you.
DR.
RUDOLPH: One of the very first things
we did when we saw the results and understood the results from the acute study
was consider the possibility of doing another study. Ultimately we decided that the use of the D04 group as a control
would give -- could potentially give high confidence in a determination of
effectiveness. But we were also
influenced by the fact that every other study design that we envisioned and
discussed, both internally and with external consultants such as Dr. Rush, had
significant limitations. And Dr. Rush
can walk you through some of our concerns about doing another study.
DR.
RUSH: Could I have the slide up,
please? Let me try to take you through
the thinking in the pattern, because the timing is very relevant here. Obviously it would be wonderful to have a
randomized control trial. We began the entire
evaluation of VNS in depression at a time when there, in fact, were no short or
long-term randomized control trials in TRD short of acute trials with ECT that
a few investigators had conducted. In
fact, the natural course of TRD had not been mapped out by anyone, under
routine treatment conditions for a 12-month period. And of course there was no long-term safety. In fact, in the initial study there as no
short-term safety of Vagus nerve stimulation in depressed patients at all.
So
the plan, which you saw as the D02 trial, was to conduct based on the epilepsy
model. Part of the reason for the 10
weeks was the epilepsy model. It was an
acute trial, 10 weeks long, following two weeks recovery after implantation,
and it would compare sham versus VNS with very tight controls. So no medication changes within that
three-month period. If you found a
positive difference between the two groups, you could uniquely and absolutely
attribute cause to VNS, and that would be the best evidence for efficacy. Even if it were modest in the short run, you
could say it was the VNS.
And
then the plan actually agreed to with the FDA was that there would be a
long-term uncontrolled follow-up of a significant number of people who had had
VNS to see whether or not there was a sustained benefit which would be
extremely unusual in treatment-resistant depressed patients, as I showed you
from the data this morning. So that was
the plan. And the reason for it was
simple, it's direct, has minimal patient exposure, long-term safety could be
established. It's the most efficient
path to approval, and it just made a lot of sense. And we had already done the D01 open trial to indicate that in
fact there was a reasonable chance of a reasonably good benefit in the 10-week
time period.
So
as you know, the results, the primary outcome failed the positive finding on
the secondary outcome. Then the
question obviously is raised, gee, was the sample size too small? Well, I guess if it had been made larger we
might have achieved a difference in the primary outcome. And what about a longer duration, a subject
you already raised.
So
as Dr. Rudolph said, at the end of that trial period, we couldn't then go
back. The trial had already shut
down. So, next slide. We then considered a variety of next-step
options. One is to just simply conduct
a longer term acute trial. Let's go out
nine to twelve months. You have now
maximized the duration, and if you don't change the medications, you can
attribute with absolute certainty cause to VNS. It's a terrific design except it's not feasible, it's not
ethical, and it's not safe. And you
couldn't have any patients sign up for it.
Because these are treatment-resistant depressed patients. The number of medication changes that occur
over even a six-month period just to keep the patients intact, safe, and alive,
is significant. So we would have lost
all the patients probably by even four to five months, or at least a large
proportion. So that then, the long term
here mitigates -- prevents us, really, from attributing absolute 100 percent
certainty cause to VNS, because medicines will change. And I'll come back to that in a second.
One
of the difficulties is if VNS works in one group, and the other group does not
receive real VNS, there's a differential management with medications. One group will have medicines changed at a
different rate or time or so on. We'll
come back to that.
Another
possibility that we thought of is simply go after electroconvulsive therapy
versus VNS acute, in an acute trial modality perhaps. A couple, two, three, four weeks -- I'm sorry, four weeks to,
say, eight to twelve weeks. The problem
is ECT is a terrific acute treatment, but can't be given over the long run in
most patients. And VNS is not an acute
treatment and has to be given over a long run.
So it just wouldn't make any sense.
And secondly, even as I showed you and Dr. Rudolph showed you, the
patients entering the VNS trial, 40 to 50 percent had already had ECT and had
failed. Thirty-some percent, 38 percent
in the current episode. So we'd have to
change the patient population.
Another
possibility we discussed at length, and really brought this around, was the
idea of taking the patients who had received VNS who had benefited from the D01
trial or the D02 trial and simply randomizing them to a discontinuation. Just turn off the device. Two difficulties with that. One is, of course, there's risking of
un-blinding. But more important than
that, we would probably need an even larger sample pool than could be
generated. The problem is we went to
patients. We asked them, we surveyed
the patients directly. I spoke to a
number of patients, other investigators did.
To a person, and you heard it also from a patient today, the patient
said with this emotion you are not going to turn this device off. I do not want this device to turn off. So we would have to go after people with
really minimal benefit who might have been more willing to have the device
turned off, but that's not the population that would be appropriate for
discontinuation trial. Next slide,
please.
DR.
ELLENBERG: If you don't mind, can I
interrupt?
DR.
RUSH: Sure. Yes, sir. Please go back.
DR.
ELLENBERG: In the first bullet.
DR.
RUSH: Yes.
DR.
ELLENBERG: If I remember correctly,
there were a significant number of meds changes in D02.
DR.
RUSH: That's correct.
DR.
ELLENBERG: So --
DR.
RUSH: And a significant number in D04,
which I think --
DR.
ELLENBERG: Understood.
DR.
RUSH: Take D04 as evidence that you
couldn't do this with medications not changing.
DR.
ELLENBERG: Well, that's what I want to
follow up on.
DR.
RUSH: Okay.
DR.
ELLENBERG: So, the protocol as I
recall, once the acute phase was finished allowed but discouraged medication
changes in D02. And with that allowance
you got, I think it was 60 percent medication changes. So in real life, that probably is going to
be the way VNS will be given, with the allowance for medication changes.
So
why then -- I understand your point based on the assumption that the cleanest
way to do this is with no medication changes.
But why couldn't a randomized trial be done where medication changes
were discouraged but allowed, since effectively for the long-term results in
D02 that's what happened? So why
couldn't that trial be redone with the medication change discouraged but
allowed?
DR.
RUSH: Oh, I think at this moment it
could. I think that the data that we
now have in terms of long-term safety, which we didn't have at the end of the
D02 acute. We still didn't have
long-term safety data. We had a good
feeling from epilepsy, and some modest sample size from the D01, but we really
didn't know and couldn't tell the patients what the longer term safety risks
were. So we, for example, have noticed
the induction of mania, or hypomania.
DR.
RUDOLPH: I think Dr. Ellenberg, you've
essentially described the D02/D04 paradigm, except as a randomized study.
DR.
RUSH: Exactly.
DR.
RUDOLPH: I think that's what you're
suggesting.
DR.
RUSH: Let me just go through two more,
because actually the last one deals just with what you're asking.
We
thought of another possibility, which is we would prescribe -- we would control
the medications in a reasonable standard of care. So we'd have less deviation across doctors. So we wouldn't have too much exotic,
potentially dangerous pharmacotherapy.
And both -- then one group would get algorithm only, and the other group
would get algorithm plus VNS. That's
terrific, except when you look at the level of resistance in these
patients. Nobody knows how to write an
algorithm for any of them, because they're at level 6 and the algorithms --
that is that half are beyond ECT. So we
have no evidence with which to write the algorithms.
And
secondly, because of the huge number of treatments that have been tried. I mean, some of these patients -- remember,
if it's two to three ATHF treatments, it's exposures to 12 different
treatments, not counting combinations that were used. And then when you go to four to five, and remember the average
here is four, you're looking at 16 clinical treatments, not counting all the
potential combinations that you layer on one drug after the other after the
other.
So
in order to do that experiment, which would be very interesting, the only
suitable population is one that's much less resistant, one that's maybe had one
or two steps. Then we could take three
more steps in an algorithm developed by consensus. That could be done.
That's not the population that's going to be the primary target for this
treatment. And so the relevance of the
research is limited due to generalizability issues.
And
then the last point is the point that you were just raising in the
question. Could we do such a trial,
that is randomize what we've done now?
Yes. Now that we know long-term
safety, I think it's possible to do such a trial. You will still have interaction with medication changes that are
likely to differ between the two groups, if there's an effect of VNS, of
course. And the other risk which is
always true with this level of depression is both groups will still be exposed
to exotic, unstudied combinations. And
finally, at the time that this was done -- we could do it now -- we had no idea
of effect sizes. We wouldn't know how
large to make the sample to figure out whether we have a difference.
So,
last slide please.
DR.
RUDOLPH: Can I -- before you go on just
comment on that?
DR.
RUSH: Yes.
DR.
RUDOLPH: So while that's feasible, our
assessment was there wasn't much gain to do that over the strategy we
followed. Because you would still be
faced with trying to establish the comparability of medications, as you still
had that major issue. Yes, the
randomization would give you a greater level of certainty with regard to
baseline covariates. You'd still have,
even in a randomized control -- we've heard a lot of talk about unmeasured
covariates. Even in randomized control,
that's still potential problem. So
you're still left with that.
And
frankly, with VNS therapy, you always have an issue of blinding. Blinding is never perfect with VNS because a
good number of patients do perceive when they're getting stimulation. So yes, maybe there's a slight gain to that
particular paradigm, but it's only a slight gain I would say.
DR.
RUSH: Let me just -- I know we're
getting near lunch period, so let me just finish if I could, this slide and the
very last one. So, this is in brief of
course what we have. And put the next
one up for me to see. No, no, the other
one. Back, please. Okay.
So
what we have done is exactly everything short of the randomization, comparing
-- trying to find out what is the long-term outcome of TRD at this level given
standard care. Remember when we started
this was never defined. This was not
known. So we had no idea whether these
patients are getting better, getting worse.
Obviously D04 shows really not much benefit. So that's the first study that's available to comment on
this. That's D04, not yet published.
D02,
then as you know, simply was extended with doctor's choice. Again, the first study of long-term
adjunctive VNS establishes safety. So
now, we now have the effect size and safety and expected outcome. So clearly at this moment we could do such a
randomization, but up until this point we could not do that.
And
as you know, the results, we've reviewed them, so I'm not going to detail that
other than to indicate that most of the responders at three months were still
there at a year, and some of the non-responders at baseline -- I'm sorry, at
three months, actually responded by a year.
The
one comment is this design actually provides a better control of longer term
VNS than was originally agreed to with the FDA. Because it has a comparison.
Not randomized, but a comparable group, if you will, by which to gauge
the most salient portion of this treatment, which is the longer term
outcome. And then if I have just the
final slide.
So
you are asking, in a sense, how do we deal with a non-randomized evidence base,
and is it really safe and okay to support this treatment. So, this is sort of the way I put things
together. The question is is VNS the
cause of better outcomes in 02 versus 04.
How certain are we. And Dr.
Rudolph went through a number of explanations, and illuminated a placebo not
likely in TRD, not a sustained effect, typically occurs early. Medication changes, yes there were more in
04 than 02. That would be consistent
with more efficacy in 02 due to other causes.
The EC differences were equivalent in terms of percentage use and
unrelated largely to outcome.
Sample
differences, we went through that at baseline.
Unmeasured sample differences.
Here we could look at anxiety.
Anxiety subscales. We
anticipate, based on the Hamilton, the anxiety subscale highly correlates with
the total on the Hamilton, the two totals are the same and we'll probably have
that number for you this afternoon.
The
other issue is access to personality disorders. Personality disorders are very common in TRD. And in fact, many patients with TRD, once
the TRD is fixed, actually have a resolution of these personality
disorders. The incidence is on the
order of 75 to 85 percent. And in fact,
they have not been found to affect outcomes except for borderline personality
disorder in Dr. Sackheim's ECT trial, and Tracy Shea back in 1990 reported the
NIMH collaborative psychotherapy trial.
Personality disorders did not affect symptomatic outcome. It did affect social functioning, but that
was it.
The
final thing is maybe there are differences that we don't know that we didn't
measure. So I call them unknown sample
differences. Now if they're present,
they would have to explain the 12-month outcomes -- that's possible -- the fact
that they're sustained largely -- that's very unusual in this group -- and the
fact that we have an increasing number of beneficiaries in the VNS group over
time. Whatever that thing is, we would
have to create it out of whole cloth.
So I feel, personally and scientifically, very persuaded by this level
of data, which I must say is a bit short of the one-year, randomized control
trial that we can now do based on all the evidence that we have. And the question becomes how necessary is it
to establish with that level of certainty for this population in the context of
this device for epilepsy already widely used.
DR.
ELLENBERG: I think the last bullet is
the key bullet on this. On that
slide. I have a naïve question and then
I'll stand down. In terms of the
masking of the IDS-SR or the HAM-D, looking on the Web, it seems that while
that is a self-report, both of them are self-reports by the patient, there is
someone that's working with them to complete the questionnaire. Someone asking the questions. Is that not correct?
DR.
RUSH: No, sir. If you're asking about the IDS-SR?
DR.
ELLENBERG: Yes.
DR.
RUSH: No. Typically that's given to the patient and they're asked to fill
it out in the waiting room.
DR.
ELLENBERG: So they're doing that all
alone. Alright, then that's the primary
outcome.
DR. RUSH:
Some of these patients are very depressed. And so we may have to explain some of the words. But that happens at just pretty much the
baseline. Most of the patients are able
to fill this out throughout on their own.
They may ask a query, but generally IDS-SR is totally a self-report. This population needed a little bit of help.
The
Hamilton is -- the interviewer you saw, Dr. Husain, doing that on one of the
tapes. You know, that's a clinician
interview.
DR.
ELLENBERG: They were prompting, and
helping them.
DR.
RUSH: Exactly. And that was independently rated.
DR.
ELLENBERG: Then going to just the IDS,
the subjects, both the delayed onset and the immediate onset subjects in D02
were being measured by the IDS with let's assume it's full self-report. Those patients all knew that they were
turned on.
DR.
RUSH: Well, you're asking the degree of
blindness with regard to the subjects.
DR.
ELLENBERG: Correct.
DR.
RUSH: And we purposely did not ask the
patients whether they thought they were receiving active treatment or not.
DR.
ELLENBERG: In the long-term, after the
three-month period?
DR.
RUSH: Well, you heard --
DR.
ELLENBERG: Did the patients know that
they were going on?
DR.
RUSH: Not necessarily. Not necessarily.
DR.
RUDOLPH: After three months.
DR.
RUSH: Not after the acute they
didn't. They knew there was three
months and three months, no? I'm sorry. Let me --
DR.
ELLENBERG: My impression was --
DR.
RUDOLPH: After three months considered
the study to be un-blinded.
DR.
ELLENBERG: Yes. Okay.
So the outcomes we're looking at, in addition to the repeated measures,
which included the three-month period, but most of the data was coming from a
point in time where all patients knew that they were on treatment in the
D02. In the D04, all of the patients
knew that they were not on VNS.
DR.
RUSH: Yes. Correct.
DR.
ELLENBERG: Could you assess for us what
impact that might have had in terms of one group knowing that they weren't on
treatment and the other group knowing that they were?
DR.
RUSH: It is true the D04 patients knew
they were not getting VNS, and the majority actually weren't offered VNS. So some, as pointed out by the report, were
eligible for both and might have had a discussion with both. Most of them when there was a choice were
offering D02. So the knowledge that
they didn't get VNS may not even be in the heads of people getting D04, but
they know that was just routine care.
They
are having their medications changed.
They're under still expert care.
And so the medication changes, they would have an anticipation, I would
think, as any patient would, of making a change that might work out for the
better, but they're often very discouraged because many other medication
changes have not worked. If the fact
that the patients receiving VNS, they say this is terrific, I can feel it, I
know, I'm un-blinded, hooray, I'm in the right ballpark because I have nothing
else left, you would have to say that that is a -- if that's the placebo
response rather than the VNS, right, because I'm aware of it. It would have to last for another nine
months and it would have to be characterized by a sustained benefit. Okay?
We don't know of any placebo that does that.
DR.
ELLENBERG: I'm not sure I understand
why it's a placebo effect. If the group
for nine months of the year in which they're followed knew that they were on
the VNS.
DR.
RUSH: Right. You're asking couldn't that have been cause for the difference
between the groups.
DR.
ELLENBERG: Have caused their response
-- yes.
DR.
RUSH: Right. And I'm saying it would either be the active VNS itself, or you'd
have to say it's non-specific effects.
And I'm saying I don't think it's non-specific because of the magnitude
and the growth over time. So I'd have
to attribute it to the active VNS itself.
DR.
RUDOLPH: Additionally, you have
clinician ratings being done at the same time, and the clinician ratings were
videotaped and sent out to a third party blinded rater which established the
legitimacy, if you will, of the clinician ratings.
DR.
ELLENBERG: That was done both with the
04?
DR.
RUDOLPH: That was done for D02.
DR.
ELLENBERG: D02.
DR.
RUSH: Just one other comment on the IDS
and I'll get out of here. That would
avoid more questions. The IDS is a
self-report. And while it is highly
related and has been published in a number of articles, the psychometric
properties, it's highly related to the Hamilton and to the clinician-rated
IDS. It was accepted as an outcome measure
off-the-shelf, ready-made, at least the IDSC was, the clinician rating at an
NIMH conference held a couple of years ago, with the IDS-SR. If a self-report were acceptable to the FDA,
that would be an acceptable metric.
One
comment, though, that we know, especially in chronic, longstanding depression,
self-report tends to be a little more sluggish to change than clinician
ratings. And you heard from the
patients, a couple this morning. My
family members saw me change before I knew I was getting better. That is very common, especially when you're
looking at multifunction impairment over a long time. We know we're better when we can do things we love to do. And we can't do those right away. The symptom changes by the clinician rating
will happen a little quicker. So let me
get out of here.
DR.
SACKHEIM: Hi, I'm Harold Sackheim, a
professor of psychiatry and radiology at Columbia. Just two comments. I
believe that part of what you may be getting at, Dr. Ellenberg, is the idea
that patient expectancies can have an impact on outcomes. In this population, I know of only -- or a
population that's relatively similar -- only one attempt to look at the
relationships between expectancies and outcome. And that's what we've done over the years in terms of asking ECT
patients whether they expect to get better, whether they expect to have
cognitive effects, and so on. In that
population, there is no association between patients' beliefs about whether the
treatment is going to work for them or not and the final scores.
And
I think that would be pretty much comparable here given the history of these
patients in terms of repeated failures with other treatments. In fact, the correlations tend to be
negative. Those patients who are most
pessimistic tend to do better with the treatment. So that's one point.
Then
the second point regarding the validity or the bias that could've entered into
the ratings by the raters at the individual sites. It was at Columbia that we did the blinded ratings of these tapes. And it was time blind as well. So the people that were rating the tapes
didn't know when in the course of treatment -- could I have the slide please --
they were rating. And these are the
ICCs for the ratings by site. And as
you can see, the ICCs are not bad at all, particularly since there's
variability in the ends at each site.
Overall
in this study, the reliability of the Hamilton ratings -- we're talking about
an assessment of 400 different interviews -- was on the order of 0.93 was the
overall ICC. Can I have the next slide,
please?
To
give you a sense of how the tight the ratings are, but even more importantly,
the absence of a bias in the ratings.
You see that the intercept for this regression is essentially zero. That the blinded rater did not see these
patients as either more or less well on average than did the ratings at the
site. And that there's a very tight
association. These are the individual
points for each of the interviews that were rated.
DR.
ELLENBERG: So this is the clinical
taped evaluation?
DR.
SACKHEIM: On the Y axis.
DR.
ELLENBERG: Versus the HAM-D or the IDS?
DR.
SACKHEIM: No, this is the HAM-D where
it's a blinded rater at Columbia rating it versus the original rating at the
site. And these are each of the
individual ratings, where the rater was time blind, not knowing when in the
course of treatment, whether this was baseline, or after a year, or what have
you.
And
then just to echo the remarks of Dr. Rush.
What at least to me is very unusual, having spent many, many years
working with treatment-resistant patients, is the fact that not only is there a
group of patients who showed benefit late, but the people who benefited on
average by my estimate, we're talking about 70 percent of them, holding it for
at least a year or two years. Now, when
we contrast that with the relapse rates that we see with other treatments,
particularly in treatment-resistant patients.
And so can I have this slide, please.
These
are the percent of patients in an analysis that we've completed of D01 and D02
who were responders at three months, who would continue to be classified as
responders at one year. And you can see
that it's 72 percent in D01 and 63 percent in D02. If we look at the --
DR.
RUDOLPH: And let me just
interrupt. The reason why these
percentages are a little different than I showed this morning is because it's a
different set of criteria.
DR.
SACKHEIM: This is, in fact, a more
conservative set of criteria. We're not
allowing in the 25 to 49 percent, but looking at people who were 50 percent and
above at three months. And we allowed
them wiggle room down to 40 percent. So
how many of those who were at least 50 percent and above had at least 40
percent improvement at one year. And
you can see those figures there. And
obviously we do have the data now on the longer term. And it's very, very promising.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: I think with that we'll hold
any further questions or comments till after lunch. So if everybody could return in an hour, let's say at 1:45, we'll
pick up with the deliberations.
(Whereupon,
the foregoing matter went off the record at 12:48 p.m. and went back on the
record at 1:48 p.m.)
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: It's now 1:50 and I'd like to
call the meeting back to order.
And
I'd like to remind the public again that while the meeting is open for public
observation, public attendees may not participate except at the specific
request of the panel.
We'll
now begin the panel deliberations. Two
voting members of this panel will open this part of the meeting with their
remarks.
Dr.
Philip Wang will give his remarks. Dr.
Wang will give his remarks on the clinical information.
And
Dr. Ellenberg was going to address the statistical analysis but I understand
he's in agreement with the FDA analysis and will not be making any specific comments.
After
this, the panel will have a general discussion at which the panel will focus
their deliberations on the FDA questions.
There
will then be a second public opening hearing and FDA and sponsor summations.
Then
the panel will conclude the deliberations and vote on the recommendation
concerning this PMA.
I
want to remind the panel that they can
ask the sponsor or the FDA questions at any time.
So
at this point, I'd like to ask Dr. Wang to take the microphone and open this
part of the panel's deliberations.
MEMBER
WANG: That's perfect, thanks. Great.
I'm going to be brief because everything I have to say you've already
heard.
Again,
just to recap, this is a pre-marketing supplement application for a new
indication for VNS.
It
was approved in `97, again for -- as an adjunctive therapy to reduce the
frequency of seizures in patients who are refractory to anti-epileptics.
Now
it's being considered for approval for a new indication as an adjunct long-term
treatment for chronic or recurrent major depression that hasn't adequately
responded to two or more treatments.
Again,
it's similar to the previously approved device. It has an implantable pulse generator, a lead to the left vagus,
an external programming wand, programming software and a compatible computer to
run the software.
The
VNS clinical studies include these two which are perhaps the most relevant to
our discussions today.
There's
the D-02 Pivotal Study which had two phases, a 12-week acute phase in which 235
patients with chronic or recurrent treatment-resistant major depressive
episodes were implanted and then randomized to either receive the stimulation
or sham-control treatment.
This
was then followed for both arms by a 12-month long-term phase in which all
patients were then given VNS.
Also
of relevance, perhaps most relevant to our discussion today is this D-04
Observational Study in which 138 patients with chronic or recurrent
treatment-resistant major depressive episodes were given usual care and then
followed for a year.
Other
studies we've heard about, the D-01 Pilot Study that originally got things
going, a D-03 European Post-Marketing Study, D-05 Videotape Study in which
there was an examination of the inter-rater reliability of depression
assessments in the D-02 study, and the D-06 Pilot Study of not necessarily
depressive episodes but rapid-cycling bipolar disorder.
In
terms of the D-02 acute phase results, this now is again the first 10-week
portion of the D-02 study. The
difference on the primary end point, as defined by a 50 percent reduction in
HAM-D scores, again was -- there was a tendency but that wasn't statistically
significant to favor VNS.
The
sponsor has brought up that their full VNS effect may take longer than the ten
weeks in the acute phase portion of the trial, especially considering that the
first two weeks of that ten-week period was for adjustment of the VNS device.
So
this was the rationale for the D-02/D-04 12-month comparison, which we heard
about, in which outcomes during the long-term phase, in which everyone in D-02
was receiving VNS was compared to the 12-month outcomes in the D-04 study.
On
this primary endpoint analysis, which again it was the change in monthly IDS-SR
scores from a repeated measures linear regression model, on this primary
endpoint it was statistically significant in favor of the VNS therapy.
There
were also secondary endpoints in this D-02/D-04 comparison and there was also
statistically significant differences
in favor of VNS. This included an
analysis of responders, as defined by 50 percent reduction in IDS scores,
complete remission as defined by having less than a 14 on the IDS. That's actually not greater, it should be
less than.
Also
in terms of an analysis of responders as measured through 50 percent reduction
in HAM-D scores and also an analysis of complete remission as defined by --
that's less than nine on the HAM-D.
Issues,
however, were raised in the FDA review in terms of this D-02/D-04
comparison. Principal among these are
the patient and disease characteristics may have differed between subjects who
were in the D-02 and the D-04 study due to the fact that it was not a
randomized trial.
There
was a propensity score adjustment analysis that was done in terms of the
primary endpoint analysis to reduce potential bias. However, as was brought up in the FDA review, there's still
confounding possible in this primary endpoint analysis due to the possibility
of unmeasured variables. And I added
there also poorly measured variables.
Also
brought up was the fact that the simple comparisons are proportions as was done
in the secondary analyses. Secondary
endpoint analyses were completely unadjusted.
There were no potential confounders controlled for.
The
other issues brought up by the FDA include placebo effects, which may have been
greater in D-02 than in D-04 due to the higher expectations. D-02 was known to be an intervention study
while D-04 was billed and known to be only a control observational study.
There
were also allowed changes in concomitant therapies including antidepressant
drugs and ECT, which may have potentially altered the apparent efficacy of VNS.
And
there was an analysis presented in which patients were censored if they added
or increased treatments. And this
reduced the observed effects of VNS not only in terms of the statistical
significance but as you can see also, in terms of the observed effect size.
In
terms of safety issues of VNS, there are issues that make it difficult to
assess the safety of VNS for depression.
The primary reason for this is that the safety data were not
systematically collected in D-04. So
there's no comparison group for the D-02 long-term phase data.
Another
difficult when just looking at the acute phase data of D-02 is that as was
brought up, the treated end-sham groups both received a lead that was attached
-- they received the implantation and a lead was attached to their vagus nerve
so the adverse event rates do reflect that.
Just
looking at the incidence of adverse events in D-02 is also difficult to
interpret due to the fact that there are non-negligible background rates of
many of the adverse events examined.
And I just put down there reproduced the cardiovascular events as were
seen in the D-02 study by phase.
There
were three deaths in D-02. One was a
sudden death and considered to be possibly related. It was the only one of the three that was considered to be
possibly related to VNS but unfortunately no autopsy was done so it's hard to
conclude much about that.
As
was raised, the safety data from epilepsy studies may be informative here. What I've reproduced here is just the
treatment emergent adverse events in a trial that was done of VNS in epilepsy patients,
E-05. And what's shown here is the
adverse events that occurred in greater than ten percent of subjects and were
statistically significantly different between the baseline and the treatment
phases of the study.
I
think what's potentially reassuring here is that 99 percent of the side effects
were rated as mild or moderate.
In
terms of the long-term safety of VNS, there is some data. And that, again, comes from this E-05 trial
of VNS in epilepsy patients in which after five years, 31 of 51 patients were
still -- still had their VNS therapy system implanted and were presumably
receiving stimulation.
And
as you can see here, these are -- here's the profile of adverse events that
were found. And, again, providing some
reassurance is the fact that this profile of long-term side effects is
generally similar to the adverse events that were reported during the E-05
trial.
I
raise here, just sort of in closing, a few things. One relates -- there are some issues related to training that are
worth considering. One is who should
implant this device? Two is who should
be programming this device? Should it
be psychiatrists? Neurologists? Any physician?
Should
there be mandatory training courses for these -- whoever is going to be doing
the implanting and programming? And
also what kind of guidance can be given on titrating the output current? And based on what data?
And
finally there would be some implications of an approved device, which I've put
up here. As was mentioned, there are
currently very few options for treatment-resistant depression. Some options currently used in typical
practice have very little evidence to support their efficacy or safety.
But
on the other hand, would there potentially be unrealistic expectations. I remind everyone that in absolute terms,
the apparent effect sizes seen for VNS were relatively small. Would there also be pressure to forego
effective but stigmatized modalities such as ECT? So these are all some issues to ponder.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Thank you, Dr. Wang. Does anybody have any questions for Dr.
Wang?
(No
response.)
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: I guess if not then we'll move
on to the general discussion portion of the panel's deliberations. At this time, the panel may ask the sponsor
or the FDA any questions that they might have.
And
I think in order to kind of start with a fairness to everybody in the panel,
we'll just go around the panel and solicit questions and comments. And we'll start with Dr. Ellenberg at the
end.
MEMBER
ELLENBERG: I don't have any additional
questions. Thank you.
MEMBER
JAYAM-TROUTH: Hi. I had a couple of questions. One is I'm
looking at the D-01 study and, you know, there were 25 out of 55 responders at
one year and 18 of 42 responders at two years.
My question is were the stimulation parameters equivalent, you know, to
the D-02 study?
And
was it a drop out of these patients, 55 patients to 42 patients? You know, why did the patients drop out if
VNS was that effective?
MR.
TARVER: I'm Brent Tarver. I'm a Senior Director in Clinical and
Regulatory -- in Medical Affairs at Cyberonics.
About
the stimulation settings, the settings were similar in D-01 and D-02. Out over the long term, the D-01 settings
tended to be maybe a quarter of a milliamp higher but which would be very
similar.
And
the second part of the question?
MEMBER
JAYAM-TROUTH: Why was there such a drop
out from 55 to 42 in the responders?
In, I mean, the groups, 25 to 55, they were responders. And then by two years, there were only 42 people
still having VNS.
MR.
TARVER: Right.
MEMBER
JAYAM-TROUTH: You know, who dropped
out?
MR.
TARVER: Okay. The drop is in -- what you're looking at is the rating
scores. There were a number of
patients, about ten, that did not have the rating at two years but were still
receiving stimulation in the study. So
they're only included in the last observation carried forward analysis.
MEMBER
JAYAM-TROUTH: So it wasn't a real
actual drop?
MR.
TARVER: Well, to some extent it was,
and Dr. Rush, who was -- there were only four investigators in D-01. Dr. Rush can comment at least on the
experience at his site.
DR.
RUSH: Actually, I can do it for the
whole study. I'm sorry, I should have
brought the paper that had to be submitted.
As
I recall, there were, I think, four or five people that had either had it
turned off or were explanted. And that
was because of lack of efficacy, not due to side effects, starting with the
original 59.
There
were probably, as mentioned, eight or ten patients we just couldn't get back in
that particular time period. One of the
interesting things is those individuals, the young man I presented this
morning, the graduate student, is out in California. He doesn't like to deal with doctors any more because he's
undepressed. So some of those
individuals are not coming back because they're well. So that accounts for the large shift in -- the drop in the
number.
But
the vast majority, I think it would be fair to say 90 percent still had the
device implanted, maybe two had it turned off.
MEMBER
JAYAM-TROUTH: I see.
DR.
RUSH: So it's a pretty high retention
at two years.
MEMBER
JAYAM-TROUTH: You know, along the same
lines, you know, Dr. Rush, along the same lines my question is if I was a
responder, you know, I would want to keep my, you know, device on --
DR.
RUSH: Yes.
MEMBER
JAYAM-TROUTH: -- you know, and
therefore I should see a bias in greater numbers, you know, out of 42, I should
have seen more numbers, you know, who were still continuing to be responders,
not a drop from 25 to 18, you know?
DR.
RUSH: Yes, but in fact what actually
happens is it's not biased in that favor because we can talk to the patients on
the phone. So some individuals, of
course, are coming back hoping that we can readjust the parameters or their
doctor just changed the medication and now with the parameters changes, maybe
help them.
So
there is a tendency to come back actually if you're a little more ill than if
not. It's not just one way or the
other.
MEMBER
JAYAM-TROUTH: Is there a greater drop
between the first year and the second year?
I know this is a one-year study.
And there was a steady improvement, you know, with the VNS. But was there a difference between the first
year and the second year?
DR.
RUDOLPH: Dr. Sackheim was one of the
other four investigators in that first study.
DR.
SACKHEIM: I think what would help would
be to show you the data on the number of patients that sustained improvement
from three months to one year and from three months to two years. So can we have that slide?
You'll
see this separately for D-01 and for D-02.
I'll just comment on it while we try to find the slide. This is uncharted territory because what
percent of patients should maintain a response to say that a treatment has a
persistent on-going benefit? Nobody has
ever put a benchmark on that. Can we
show this?
And
what you see here is the D-01 where we actually are breaking down the patients
into whether they had a 50 to 60 percent improvement, 60 to 80 percent, or 80
to 100 percent, or simply the total group in D-01.
And
in this slide, we are looking at the percent that are showing sustained benefit
over time. And we're doing it -- we
should have had the markings on the bottom.
But to the left, we're looking at the group that were responders at
three months, and maintained it for one year.
You'll
notice that D-04 is listed there as well.
Of the patients who had a -- who were responders at three months in
D-04, none were responders at one year.
That was a small number of patients.
There
was only seven patients that -- because D-04 actually obviously had poorer
results. But none maintained it while
we have a 70 percent rate of maintaining it in D-01 basically. And we're around 63 percent in D-02.
Now
the next set of bars presents --
DR.
WITTEN: Excuse me, can I just ask -- is
this information that's in our file?
DR.
RUDOLPH: Yes, I was going to say at the
end of the comments for disclosure, it's not in your file. These are not even the sponsor --
DR.
WITTEN: Okay, and we haven't --
DR.
RUDOLPH: -- these are not even the
sponsors' analyses.
DR.
WITTEN: -- received these yet, okay.
DR.
RUDOLPH: These are analyses that were
done by Dr. Sackheim.
DR.
SACKHEIM: The next set of analyses
looks at patients who were responders at three months, had at least a 50
percent reduction in their Hamilton scores in this case, and then we're looking
out at two years. Were they still
responders?
And
here, again, we're defining response as at least a 40 percent improvement so
that we wouldn't punish the people who went from let's say 52 percent to 48
percent.
And
again what you see is that we're, certainly with D-01 and D-02, in D-02 where
over 70 percent of the people who were responders at three months held it at
two years. And this to me was quite
remarkable, unexpected really.
Then
finally we have data on a very interesting group of people, the people who were
not responders at three months but who at one year became responders, the late
emerge. And those I would have thought
would have been a very difficult group because they didn't benefit initially
but benefitted later on.
Did
they hold it? And so we then go from
the end of the first year to the end of the second year. And what you can see is we're certainly
above 50 percent for both the D-01 and the D-02 there as well.
So
these, I thought, were very compelling data that the most treatment-resistant
group of patients I think anyone has really ever studied, where we expect them
if they benefit at all to lose it very
rapidly, we're not seeing that rapid loss. Actually over a two-year period of time, we're seeing it
sustained.
DR.
RUDOLPH: So again, just to make it
clear, these are Dr. Sackheim's own analyses of our data set. The sponsor hasn't seen them and they
certainly have not been submitted to the Agency.
MEMBER
JAYAM-TROUTH: Can I ask one more
question?
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Sure.
MEMBER
JAYAM-TROUTH: The -- I understand that
you kind of stimulated the -- in the D-02 group, not the sham, but the ones who
had the stimulation on over a two-week period.
Now did these patients come in every single day and you kept increasing
their milliamps? The parameters?
You
know, how did you do that? I mean was
it rapid stimulation that you did? And
then you held it at one spot? Or you
continued to change the parameters during the acute phase and during the
long-term phase?
DR.
RUDOLPH: During the acute phase for
those patients who were assigned or randomized to the active treatment group,
their adjustments were all done in the first two weeks after the device was
turned on.
MEMBER
JAYAM-TROUTH: Every single day they
would come and you would increase it?
DR.
RUDOLPH: The protocol gave wide
latitude to the investigators. I think
-- and some of the investigators can correct me if I'm wrong. I think, in general, however, the patients
were only seen at weekly intervals because that is what one is used to doing
when they're conducting a clinical trial.
So
although they had latitude to see the patients more frequently, I don't think
practically that actually happened.
Then
during the long-term extension phase, anybody that had entered that phase could
have stimulation parameters adjusted at the investigators' discretion.
MEMBER
JAYAM-TROUTH: Into the long-term phase?
DR.
RUDOLPH: All throughout the long-term
phase --
MEMBER
JAYAM-TROUTH: A throughout --
DR.
RUDOLPH: -- all throughout it.
MEMBER
JAYAM-TROUTH: -- so there were
variations in what parameters they had?
DR.
RUDOLPH: That's correct.
MEMBER
JAYAM-TROUTH: Was there a difference in
the non-responders and the responders?
DR.
RUDOLPH: No, there was not.
MEMBER
JAYAM-TROUTH: So they also had
stretched to the limit of tolerability --
DR.
RUDOLPH: Yes.
MEMBER
JAYAM-TROUTH: -- and they didn't
respond.
DR.
RUDOLPH: In fact, as you know, as you
are probably aware, what happens in trial where an investigator is given sort
of free range, if you will, to make adjustments, the non-responders are often
those that are receiving the higher doses because they're not getting better
and they're constantly pushed up in dose.
But
there was no distinction between the responders and the non-responders in terms
of their settings.
DR.
RUSH: I just wanted to make it clear
that in both the D-01 and D-02, there was only a two-week period during which
the parameters could be adjusted. And
after that, they were fixed for the entire duration of the trial.
MEMBER
JAYAM-TROUTH: Okay.
DR.
RUSH: So it's a very truncated
opportunity to make the adjustments.
And in that context, with weekly visits, while we could send the patient
away for a few hours and come back to see if we can adjust further up in terms
of current, it's a truncated time period for adaptation and a truncated
opportunity.
So
we may have, in a sense, injured ourselves in terms of what might really have
been more effective.
MEMBER
JAYAM-TROUTH: So for the whole year,
they didn't change after that?
DR.
RUSH: No, no, no. I'm talking about just the acute trial.
MEMBER
JAYAM-TROUTH: Acute phase.
DR.
RUSH: Just the acute phase, yes. Then after the acute phase, then adjustments
can be made.
MEMBER
JAYAM-TROUTH: Then adjustments -- and
for the sham people, they were also adjusted over two weeks? And then they --
DR.
RUDOLPH: Once the sham people crossed
over --
MEMBER
JAYAM-TROUTH: Yes.
DR.
RUDOLPH: -- into an acute phase, if you
will, following the acute study, they went through the same procedures as the
original VNS group did.
MEMBER
JAYAM-TROUTH: Okay.
DR.
RUDOLPH: And then --
MEMBER
JAYAM-TROUTH: And then they could be
adjusted?
DR.
RUDOLPH: Well, they could be adjusted
over two weeks first. And then they had
to have another ten -- another eight weeks at a fixed dose range increment. And then beyond that, then they were also
available or they were allowed to have unlimited changes at the investigators'
discretion.
MEMBER
JAYAM-TROUTH: Okay.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: And actually before Dr.
Fochtmann asks her questions or makes comments, I just want to follow up on
this particular issue.
Do
you have data on how many adjustments were made in each patient? And I guess in particular, I'm interested in
how the different number of adjustments would correspond to the different
changes in their medications as well.
Is that data available?
DR.
RUDOLPH: I don't believe so. No, no it's not.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: And on Slide 56 of the
sponsor's presentation, it gives the time course of response in D-02 and
D-04. And it looks like the biggest
benefit is actually very acute on that non-adjusted graph. And I was wondering if you could comment on
that.
Since
the efficacy is really at the long term, why is it that the benefit in this
analysis appears to actually happen straight away?
DR.
RUDOLPH: It's true that a good deal of
the benefit occurs early as is the typical pattern in drug trials over a
shorter period of time. And just as a
reference point, could we have E-151?
So that's typical of trials in general.
It's
also true in this case, and I'll show that in a minute. It's also true that the separation between
the D-02 and D-04 groups continued to grow after that initial phase. Slide on please.
So
this is actually taken from a real drug trial.
We washed it of the identifiers as to what drug it was. But this is a very typical pattern that you
see in an antidepressant drug trial. So
most of the drop does occur early.
And
then where you really start to get statistically significant separation is
usually at the later part when the placebo group will start to flatten out and
the drug continues to improve.
I
think what's -- as we've been -- as we're probably sounding like a broken
record but what we've tried to underscore throughout the whole morning is --
what's probably really important here is the sustained nature of the response,
which is what you don't -- wouldn't expect in this group without an effective
treatment.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Well, I guess that one could
make the argument that they're getting some kind of augmentation on the placebo
response because they're coming in for frequent readjustments of their
stimulation.
Having
said that, we'll as Dr. Fochtmann if she has any questions.
MEMBER
FOCHTMANN: I have a number of
questions.
First
of all, to follow up on the questions about the stimulus settings, you said
that there was no difference between the responders and non-responders in the
stimulus settings. Was that just for
the acute trial? Or was that also
analyzed for the open phase, open label phase of the followup trial?
DR.
RUDOLPH: Let me check with the clinical
team. Doctor? You want to come up?
DR.
BRANNAN: Hi, I'm Steve Brannan. I'm one of the Medical Directors at
Cyberonics. The -- let's see, both for
the acute and for the long term, the parameter settings did not differ between
the responders and the non-responders.
When
you have, just at the highest settings, there was a slight preponderance of
people who were non-responders who had some of the higher settings.
And
again, without having your kind of trial set up to be looking at a fixed dose,
then that ends up the people who are necessarily doing very well. And so they're increased on their
parameters.
So
you actually see that better in the long term than you do in the acute phase
where their parameters, again, were set after the first two weeks and so no
adjustment could be made after those first two weeks of stimulation.
MEMBER
FOCHTMANN: Was there any dose response
relationship to the observation of adverse effects?
DR.
BRANNAN: The only adverse event I am
aware of would be the voice alteration that you have.
MEMBER
FOCHTMANN: Okay.
The
next question I had related to the proposed indication and there were two
aspects of it that I wanted to inquire about.
You
specifically defined chronic or recurrent depression as a current major
depressive episode that is of at least two years in duration or a current major
depressive episode in a patient with a history of multiple prior episodes of
depression.
While
those could be overlapping groups of individuals, they do seem to be also in
some instances very discreet groups of individuals. And I wondered whether you had analyzed the data to determine
whether you had comparable efficacy in individuals who just had a chronic
episode lasting more than two years versus individuals who had shorter lasting
episodes but who had had multiple recurring episodes?
DR.
RUDOLPH: Yes, well, we did. I presented a slide this morning where we
did it in the form of an exploratory analysis.
And on the slide, if we can pull it up from my presentation, it focused
on the chronic group only.
And
in the chronic group, which was -- and I'm talking about the D-02/D-04
comparison, in the chronic group, which was again two-thirds -- next slide --
no, not that one. The next slide. Yes, there we go.
In
the chronic group, which was two-thirds of the patient population for D-02 and
D-04, and these again were patients defined as having an episode lasting at
least two years of duration, and see the overall response rate in D-02 is 29
percent, 10 percent for D-04, and if you'll recall, and this is from the
Hamilton, if you'll recall for the entire sample set, it was 30 versus 13
percent.
So
by extension, you can figure that the recurrent patients had approximately the
same rates.
MEMBER
FOCHTMANN: Okay.
DR.
RUDOLPH: So the bottom line is --
MEMBER
FOCHTMANN: But did you analyze it
specifically for the recurrent --
DR.
RUDOLPH: No, we didn't.
MEMBER
FOCHTMANN: Okay.
DR.
RUDOLPH: But, you know, I think you can
probably make that -- you can surmise that by subtracting out those
patients. It's not going to differ that
much. And so I think we can conclude
that the overall rates of response, and particularly the difference between
D-02 and D-04, are similar whether we're looking just at the recurrent patients
or the chronic patients.
MEMBER
FOCHTMANN: Okay. I was curious in terms of -- from a
statistical standpoint whether you had been able to demonstrate efficacy in both
of those subgroups of patients that you were including in the indication
statement.
DR.
RUDOLPH: We did not do a statistical
test on this because it was an exploratory analysis.
MEMBER
FOCHTMANN: Okay.
The
second question that I had about the other definition in the indication
statement was related to the definition of failed adequate treatment which
mentioned a failure to respond to electroconvulsive therapy or an established
antidepressant drug administered at an adequate dose for an adequate duration.
And
my question there was whether electroconvulsive therapy adequacy was assessed
either in terms of stimulus titration methodologies or in terms of electrode
placement or in terms of numbers of treatments or any of the usual ways of
assessing ECT adequacy.
DR.
RUDOLPH: I'll ask Dr. Sackheim to
answer that because the standard scale that we used for assessing adequacy was
the antidepressant treatment history form.
DR.
SACKHEIM: Right. On the -- I'm Harold Sackheim. On the antidepressant treatment history
form, ECT is one of the treatments that is assessed in terms of whether or not
the patient has had an adequate trial.
There
is a slight bias on that form. One can
have a higher rating for bilateral than for unilateral. We don't believe that we can determine
usually retrospectively whether a stimulus test titration was used or what the
dosage settings were or the adequate seizures.
We
try and get that information when it's possible but it is based primarily on
the number of treatments with the threshold number of treatments to be
considered adequate and they differ for unilateral and bilateral.
MEMBER
FOCHTMANN: Okay. Was -- I guess the follow up to that
question would be is there a reason that the indication did not include failure
to respond to an adequate trial of electroconvulsive therapy since adequacy was
mentioned in terms of the antidepressant treatments.
DR.
RUDOLPH: The reason the proposed
indication was written as it was is because we were trying to parallel as close
as possible the inclusion and exclusion criteria in the D-02 protocol.
MEMBER
FOCHTMANN: Okay. The next question that I had was related to
the other treatments that were used.
You
censored the data based on a change in antidepressant treatment and yet as has
been pointed out, the individuals in these trials are on multiple medications
in addition to the antidepressants.
And
one of the reasons for not changing the medications was presumably that any of
these medications that they were on would have some potential to be of help in
managing their depressive disorder.
And
so even though these weren't specific antidepressants per se, I wondered
whether you had looked at the effects of changes in other medications that
people might be on be they antipsychotic medications, benzodiazepines,
stimulant medications.
Some
of the characteristics that at least appeared to perhaps be different in the
frequency of use between the D-02 and the D-04 subgroups.
DR.
RUDOLPH: I think and I'll ask for some
confirmation. I think that the
censoring actually encompassed more than just traditional antidepressants. It was -- we encompassed -- tried to
encompass a whole group of medications that would be used to treat mood
disorders.
DR.
BRANNAN: It is certainly true that most
of these patients were on concomitant medications. It is also true that when we looked at this, and we looked at it
very carefully in a number of ways that the data do not show that they had an
effect on outcome.
Can
I have the slide with Responders/Non-Responders? Slide up please. Thank
you. This one.
All
right. When looking at this, and I
think something like this was already shown when Dr. Rudolph initially had his
presentation, one would think if you were having additional medications, you
know, just did that benefit who was getting well?
And
the answer, and I'll show you two ways, this is the first. It is clearly not. When you just concentrate on the two columns on the left and in
the middle, the responders actually had fewer changes in the ARR than did the
non-responders.
And
again, similar to the parameter settings that we were just talking about, part
of this is when people are not doing well over the course of year, then they're
going to have more changes than those people who are actually doing better.
Can
I see the next slide please? Another
way of looking at that is to look at the patients who had ARR scores who
increased or showed no increase in their ARR score.
And
what you see clearly is is the people with no increase in their ARR score
actually had a 51 percent response. So
quite a bit better than the group as a whole.
And so those with increases you actually see did less well overall.
But
in addition to this, there are other parameters that are kind of hard to
quantify. How do you know exactly? Do we have the slide of the medications that
they were using during the one-year?
MEMBER
FOCHTMANN: When you classified
antidepressant medication changes, are you including only antidepressants per
se?
DR.
BRANNAN: No. I think that --
MEMBER
FOCHTMANN: Are you including
benzodiazepines, antipsychotics, stimulant medications, any of the medications
that they were on that would be a psychotropic medication are included in the
censoring?
DR.
RUDOLPH: I apologize. And I think that was the core of your
original question.
MEMBER
FOCHTMANN: Right.
DR.
RUDOLPH: And we are encompassing in
there more medications than just standard antidepressant. It does include atypical antipsychotics,
stimulants, benzodiazepines. They're
all captured through the use of the ATHF form.
DR.
SACKHEIM: Just to clarify what some of
the difficulty may be, a benzodiazepine could never, as a treatment alone, be
considered adequate in the treatment of depression.
MEMBER
FOCHTMANN: Right.
DR.
SACKHEIM: And so it would not, ATHF
criteria for what constitutes adequacy are quite different than the information
it captures on all the psychotropics.
So we would capture the atypicals and all the others that were
mentioned. But there is a real
distinction between what can reach the level of adequacy.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Okay. We're going to continue to go around that table. Dr. Wang, do you have any questions?
DR.
BRANNAN: We actually did have a slide
on the atypical antipsychotics --
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Okay.
DR.
BRANNAN: -- if that would be
helpful. E-164.
As
I'm sure some of the panel members are aware, atypical antipsychotics in
combination with other antidepressants are thought potentially to be something
that might be very useful for patients who are not responding so as augmenting
agents.
Slide
on please. We do see, and I had a slide
looking at all sorts of medications but this will kind of show you for the
antipsychotics. There is a difference
in the percentage of patients in D-02 who had atypical antipsychotics, 47
percent in D-02 and 32 percent in D-04.
What
you see in the D-02 patients, so those 47 percent, they had a response rate of
26 percent as opposed to 30 percent as measured by the Hamilton Depression
Rating Scale.
So
there was no benefit from the -- in fact a slight decrease for patients in D-02
who were on an atypical antipsychotic.
Of
the 32 percent of the patients in D-04, 18 percent had a response, which
actually is slightly better than the 13 percent that they had. So the response is somewhat higher than the
overall response.
So
in terms of does this create a little bit of a confound, the answer is
yes. But it makes the difference
between the groups appear more robust in that this actually gives more
advantage to D-04 and less advantage to D-02.
So it should hide the difference.
DR.
RUDOLPH: And the antipsychotics, I
might add, were the only category of medication where there was really a
substantial difference in usage between the D-02 and D-04 patients.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Dr. Wang?
MEMBER
WANG: Yes, I'd like to go back to the
FDA's major concern about residual confounding, you know, in the D-02/D-04
comparison that used propensity score adjustment.
Dr.
Rudolph, you mentioned that you didn't think that the distribution of
unmeasured variables might be equally distributed because of the large size of
D-02 and D-04? How is that possible
since that principle only really applies if you are randomizing?
DR.
RUDOLPH: Randomization certainly gives
you that assurance but also we made that evaluation because the sample sizes
were so large here and the measured covariates were so equally distributed that
I think it's a reasonable assumption, not -- obviously not proven, but a
reasonable assumption that for unmeasured covariates, it would probably be
equally distributed as well.
Obviously
there is an assumption there but we -- Dr. Davis has some information that I
think bears on this question that you'll find interesting.
DR.
DAVIS: Hi. I'm Sonia Davis, Director of Biostatistics at Clean Tiles.
First,
as Dr. Rudolph had described before, we evaluated through the propensity score
the differences for the covariates that we had measured at baseline.
Slide
up please. And this is a list of all
the 17. This happens to be the input
that each of the 17 had on the propensity score but of all of these 17, only
four of them were significantly different between the groups at baseline. Two of them were quite related to each
other, ECT and lifetime, or in the current episode. So we used these parameters to incorporate the propensity score.
Next
slide please. As Dr. Rudolph already
presented, when we used the propensity score to adjust for our primary efficacy
model, on the top row, you can see, in the top right box, did not have a
significant impact on the changes over time in the IDS scores. So this tells us that there were very
minimal differences between the groups even when we combined them all together.
Even
down -- looking at the very bottom row of this table, if we did not adjust for
propensity scores at all, we still get a very strongly significant linear study
effecting the primary parameter.
Now
you might say well the propensity score maybe didn't catch all these parameters
that were different at baseline. So is
you could look at the next slide -- slide up -- we did an additional
exploratory analysis that actually put each of these covariates -- there was a
strong influence into the logistic regression and also for the propensity score
and also were different at baseline to see are these covariates having an
effect on our primary analysis with our linear study effect.
And
in the first column we can see that after putting each of these predictors that
were the strongest ones in there, we see there is essentially no differences to
our linear study effect. We always had
very consistent and very strong answer results.
So
this led us certainly to conclude that everything that we measured, although we
saw very small differences, had no impact in the difference between D-02 and
D-04.
Switching
now to what about the covariate that possibly had not been measured. Slide up please. In order to have a strong impact into the response rates that we
saw over time, the unmeasured covariates would have to be correlated with
response.
They
would have to be in balance between the studies, otherwise we wouldn't have an
impact.
They
would have to be recurring in a reasonable number of patients in order to have
an impact on response. If they were
very small number of patients, it wouldn't have a meaningful impact on the
overall group.
And
they would need to be uncorrelated with all the other covariates that we have
adjusted for.
And
we feel that these four things are quite hard that we would reasonably expect
that it's very, very unlikely there would be some unmeasured covariates that we
did not measure.
And
I'd like to turn it over to Dr. Brannan now if I could to talk about possible
--
DR.
BRANNAN: Sure. Just as an example, one of the unmeasured
covariates talked about by the FDA had to do with thyroid disease. We did not measure that specifically but we
did have an estimate for it. Slide up
please. And that was thyroid medication
use.
Now
again, this is not going to tell us exactly whether people had thyroid or not
because a fair number of these patients may be having this as thyroid
augmentation which is one of the strategies one has for treatment-resistant
depression. So again there is some
appropriate caveats.
But
what it is reassuring is when you look at the difference in thyroid medications
either lifetime or in the current episode, you see it's just almost equally
distributed between the two groups.
Kind
of bearing up again those four measures are pretty hard to find something
that's going to be -- have that imbalance between the groups, have a strong
correlation with outcome, and even treatment doesn't have that strong a
correlation with outcome in depression.
And also not even be correlated at all with any of the covariates that
are already there and measured.
DR.
RUDOLPH: This might be an opportune
time to correct something that you either heard from the FDA this morning or
you saw in their review and that was the statement that there is no covariate
adjustment in the secondary analysis.
That was not true. There was
covariate adjustment in the secondary analyses.
And
let me just ask Dr. Davis to comment on that because I think it's a very
important point. It's come up a couple
times.
DR.
DAVIS: Yes, this is Sonia Davis. It's true.
All of our analyses for D-02 versus D-04 adjusted for the propensity
score, for the baseline value whether it be Hamilton or the IDS, depending on
what measures we were looking at for the outcome, and also for the pooled site.
So
all analyses, not matter what we did, adjusted for those parameters.
MEMBER
WANG: Did you model in the categorical
analyses?
DR.
DAVIS: That is correct. The categorical analyses were modeled with
logistic regression. And I would have
to point out that we did follow that up with an exact logistic regression due
to relatively small sample sizes of our events.
If
you looked at that exact logistic regression, because of the sample sizes, we
could only adjust for one covariant. We
adjusted for the propensity score in every case, our exact logistic regression
adjusting for the propensity score gave very similar results to the logistic
regression that adjusted for all the covariates.
And
also our results were quite similar with the Fisher's Exact Test that Dr. Lao
performed during his review.
MEMBER
WANG: Actually, Dr. Davis, if you could
-- probably I'm going to be asking this to you. I mean this issue of unmeasured confounders is, you know, we're
probably not going to come to any sort of clear resolution because it would
probably be sort of speculating.
But
in terms of estimating whether there is residual confounding, one thing to
wonder about is also how you categorized -- how you dealt with your propensity
score. And I see you used -- you left
it as quintals.
To
sort of begin estimating whether there is residual confounding, did you try
more categories? You know, even through
it in as a continuous variable? And if
so, did it change the results? Because
I might --
DR.
DAVIS: Yes, we did. And it did not. Slide T-50, T-50 please.
Slide up. The middle row here
shows the results of the primary model if we treated the propensity score as a
continuous measure rather than the five levels.
The
five levels that we used were what we already specified in our analysis plan
but this row is an exploratory analysis, supportive analysis to confirm that
results are not different.
MEMBER
WANG: My last set of questions have to
do with this concomitant treatment issue.
In the D-02 analysis, I mean in the -- when people who had either
adjustments to their medication or ECT added or dropped, the apparent benefit,
you know, it not only became less significant but the actual effect size went
down which -- there's a couple ways to interpret that.
You
know, one potential way to interpret that is some of the apparent efficacy of,
you know, VNS, may actually be attributable to the superior efficacy of the
rescue treatment.
I'm
wondering if you have some either data or some way to sort of reassure us that
that is not happening.
DR.
RUDOLPH: While Dr. Brannan is coming
back up, I will remind you that the censoring analyses were done as sensitivity
analyses. They're very -- we had
available to us a number of methodologies.
The methodology I presented this morning was actually the most
conservative of the methodologies that we could envision.
And
even with that methodology, as I presented this morning, although statistical
significance wasn't achieved, it came awfully close at .052. The confidence -- the 95 percent confidence
interval for that range from -.37 to zero.
So it never crossed zero.
And
one should bear in mind that it did truncate the VNS effect to about seven
months. So the patients in that
censored D-02 group did not have even the full benefit of VNS assuming that
there is an accruing benefit over time.
DR.
BRANNAN: Let me just ask again -- the
point of your question again was?
MEMBER
WANG: It's not really the significance
issue.
DR.
BRANNAN: Okay.
MEMBER
WANG: It's the effect size.
DR.
BRANNAN: Okay.
MEMBER
WANG: You know when you censor --
DR.
BRANNAN: Yes.
MEMBER
WANG: -- the effect size reduces
suggesting that, you know, maybe the rescue treatments, you know, ECT, maybe
that's what has this appeared efficacy.
Anyway, just sort of -- you partially answered it. Actually Dr. Rudolph partially answered the
potential reasons why but --
DR.
BRANNAN: Okay, as he mentioned, this
was part of a number of sensitivity analyses.
We actually looked at several things.
Can I have the slide up a second?
So
there's actually a lot of different ways to kind of do the censoring. The original is on the top. If you actually censor both, which is not
necessarily very helpful to answer the question, there's still a huge
difference.
One
of the things that was attempted was not to censor D-04 until after the first
three months. As you will recall, in
the first three months, people were not supposed to have medications added in
D-02. So that was done. And that actually does reduce what you saw
from the original one some but it's still fairly large.
Then
an attempt was done just to do a censoring without anything -- without carrying
forward anything but treating everything as missing value. And that again had such a large value.
So
you are correct. When we actually go to
the extent of going and censoring at the first ARR change and then carrying
that forward, LOCF fashion, which again truncates both the benefit in terms of
whatever interaction or VNS effect that you're getting as well as shortening
effectively how long they are in the trial, so on average, they're about seven
months instead of twelve months, at that point then you do see this decrease.
And
I think it's a good point that since this is a sensitivity analysis, what are
the P values really talking about. But
you still see actually a fairly substantial -- you do cut it down by about
half. But it's still fairly different.
DR.
WITTEN: Can I just request of the
sponsor that you -- when you present these slides, just clarify which analyses
were in the submission and which weren't -- for each -- just in general.
DR.
RUDOLPH: Oh, I'm sorry.
DR.
WITTEN: For each slide.
DR.
RUDOLPH: Okay, for this one, slide back
on, for this one, the original and then the bottom were done in the original
submission. And then I believe only the
second from the top was also submitted during some of the questions back and
forth. Yes?
DR.
DAVIS: Hi, this is Sonia Davis, I just
want to add a summary about this to bring home this point. The analysis that we did with the LOCF
censoring, which is the last bottom line here that was submitted, is an
exceedingly conservative post hoc analysis that we did.
We
expected it full well to be very conservative.
We didn't present some of the others to the FDA because they are quite
non-conservative. So the idea was for
us to say under this very unusual situation where almost 50 percent of the time
that people were on D-02 was taken away from the analysis.
Is
there a difference between that and a full 12-months of the D-04 analysis? And we said yes, we still see a signal even
in the most exceedingly conservative situation.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Dr. Jensen?
DR.
JENSEN: My questions primarily have to
do with safety. So if you have a safety
person, want to stick him up?
First
I noticed in the study that the wound infection rate was eight percent for the
VNS group and two percent for the sham control. And you've mentioned only a 1.4 percent infection rate in your
epilepsy study that required explantation.
So were these patients, did they require explantation? Or were they treated only with antibiotics
and they recovered from that?
And
if not, if they required explantation, then why do you see such a substantial
difference in infection rates?
DR.
WINGARD: My name is Peggy Wingard. I'm one of the Medical Directors at
Cyberonics.
In
answer to your question about the difference in the rates of the infection,
eight percent versus two percent -- is that the information that you are
referring to?
DR.
JENSEN: Well, that's in the depression
study but you compared that to the infection rate in your epilepsy group, which
I believe was 1.4 percent required explantation due to infection.
So
it's not clear to me whether this eight and two percent required just
explantation -- required explantation?
Or if they were treated with antibiotics?
DR.
WINGARD: I see. Okay.
In answer to your question, there was only one patient that required
explantation due to infection. And the
rest of them were treated with antibiotics.
DR.
JENSEN: And that is in the
depression group?
DR.
WINGARD: Yes, ma'am.
DR.
JENSEN: Which means it is equivalent to
what you saw in the epilepsy group? Is
that true? In your -- because you were
comparing the safety data between those patients that have had the device for
epilepsy. And I just want to make sure
that between the two groups, you're not seeing a difference in --
DR.
RUDOLPH: Well, it actually results in a
lower rate because it is one out of 235 implants.
DR.
JENSEN: Okay.
In
terms of the patients who do not respond and have a permanent implant, what is
the company's position on how to cancel those patients as to what to do with
that explant -- with that implant?
Explant it or leave it in?
DR.
RUDOLPH: You have two options. You can have it explanted. You can leave it in. If the device is left in, the general
precautions that are communicated are those that are in our label regarding the
risks of having this implant, permanent implant in, which have to do with MRI
risk, full-body MRI, not head MRI but full-body MRI. And the risk of receiving diathermy.
DR.
JENSEN: And the defibrillation
risk? Anything? If they require defibrillation, that doesn't
do anything?
DR.
RUDOLPH: No.
DR.
JENSEN: Okay. All right. So you've got
a group of people that are relatively young now but they have an implant in. And chances are at some point in their
lifetime, they will require an MR.
And
furthermore, they are depression patients so they will probably at some point
in time get a brain MR, possibly a high field strength MR, so is it -- to me it
looks like you may be precluding other forms of either treatment or at least
evaluation of patients if the implant remains in since they now cannot have an
MR with that.
DR.
RUDOLPH: You can still have head MR.
DR.
JENSEN: Even high field strength? When we go to three Ts?
DR.
RUDOLPH: We're going to -- we'll get an
imagine expert up here to answer this.
This is --
PROFESSOR
GEORGE: Hello, I'm Professor Mark
George. I'm a professor of psychiatry,
radiology, and neurology at the Medical University of South Carolina. And I did a research imaging fellowship here
at the NIH and I'm in Charleston now.
And
we've done extensive FMRI studies in these VNS patients. So it's not the case that they can't have
the MRI scans. It's just that they
can't have certain types. And those are
whole body, where the gradient actually are the large whole body gradients and
they cause heating of the electrodes.
So
if you have a send/receive head coil, even at three tesla, then VNS is
fine. So it's not the case that having
the device in would preclude diagnostic MRI.
DR.
JENSEN: Of the head.
PROFESSOR
GEORGE: Of the head.
DR.
JENSEN: But if they ever at some point
down the road need a body MR, that could be problematic?
PROFESSOR
GEORGE: Correct. And of the cervical spine, that could be a
problem as well, yes.
DR.
JENSEN: Okay.
So
along those lines, there are other issues, too, just with operating in the
carotid sheath, which is once you have fibrosis that's set up after surgery,
you now make other operations, you know, redoes difficult, for example, the
complication rate with carotid endarterectomies goes from 3 to 16 percent when
you're looking at patients with carotid redoes.
So
again you have a relatively young group of patients right now who at some point
in time might need to have carotid surgery and you may be precluding them from
being able to have it if the device has caused some sort of fibrosis.
So
do you have any long-term data on the patients who have had the device
implanted for seizures in terms of battery corrosion, wire corrosion, vascular
perforation, operative problems in the carotid sheath afterwards?
DR.
RUDOLPH: I'm going to ask one of our
engineers to come up and answer that technical question for you.
MR.
ARMSTRONG: Hello, I'm Scott Armstrong,
Director of Electrical Engineering, Cyberonics.
And
as far as the corrosion, no we don't have any problems with the leads or the
device or the battery. They're all --
the can it titanium, which is very stable.
And all the materials are the same that are used in pacemakers and defibrillators
so there is an extensive history of this same type material and have not seen
any type of corrosion.
DR.
JENSEN: Okay. But in terms of surgery, we don't really have any data on repeat
carotid surgery? Got a surgeon in the
group?
(Laughter.)
DR.
RUDOLPH: Unfortunately we don't have a
surgeon but one of my staff members is a clinical engineer and he spends a lot
of time in the OR so --
MR.
PARNIS: My name is Steve Parnis. I'm the Senior Manager of Clinical
Engineering, Cyberonics.
No,
we don't have specific data about the number of other surgeries that have been
done but we do know of a lot of surgeries that have been done to remove the
lead, to replace the lead in cases of lead breaks, or patients who want the
device removed.
As
you know, any operation, whether it is carotid endarterectomy, whether it's a patch
graft that has to be put in the neck, surgeons do go back in. We do know of the complications. There's no difference in the complications
between our device being in and a patient who has had previous carotid surgery.
DR.
JENSEN: I'm sorry. Say that last line again.
MR.
PARNIS: We've looked at the
complication rates of patients who had carotid endarterectomies, especially
redo carotid endarterectomies, and the complication rates for a replacement of
our device has been no different than the replacement or a redo for a carotid
endarterectomy.
DR.
JENSEN: Okay. So you're not -- what you're saying is you're not seeing, for
example, a higher recurrent laryngeal nerve palsy occur in removing your device
versus those that occur with carotid endarterectomy redo? In other words, those are similar, the
cranial nerve palsy is similar.
I
would just submit though that if a patient has this device in has to have a
carotid endarterectomy, they're already in the higher risk group, than that
whose a virgin carotid. That's just my
point.
MR.
PARNIS: That's correct. And the redo rates for redo carotid
endarterectomies do run up to 28 percent.
And we have looked at those numbers.
And there hasn't been -- we don't have that high of a complication rate
as we have seen in the literature for redo surgeries with our device. We haven't looked at other surgeries
associated with vagus nerve stimulation.
DR.
JENSEN: Okay.
My
next question has to do with --
MEMBER
JAYAM-TROUTH: Okay, can I follow through
on that?
DR.
JENSEN: Oh, yes, go ahead.
MEMBER
JAYAM-TROUTH: I don't think that you
answered it correctly. I mean I don't
think it is still to the point. I think
the question that was raised was not that the morbidity for your operation is,
you know, as good as a carotid endarterectomy.
The question was is the morbidity greater for a carotid endarterectomy
after you've done your operation.
DR.
JENSEN: Well, you're putting the
patient in the higher risk category as opposed to the three percent group.
MEMBER
JAYAM-TROUTH: Would you put a patient
-- suppose in the future this patient needs a carotid endarterectomy then would
this patient be in greater jeopardy doing a carotid endarterectomy after you
have done this operation?
DR.
RUDOLPH: We don't have data to bear on
that but presumably yes.
DR.
JENSEN: In terms of your training
requirements, how are you choosing which surgeons are allowed to place the
implant? Which physicians are allowed
to program the implant?
And
do you have any sort of program of proctoring for those new physicians who are
programming the implant to be sort of overseen by a member of the -- a trained
member of the company to make sure that the initial patients are done properly?
DR.
RUDOLPH: Mr. Parnis has been working on
developing our training program so he's best suited to answer that as soon as
he comes -- we lost him -- as soon as he comes back up here.
MR.
PARNIS: Hi, Steve Parnis again. If I understand your question correctly,
it's -- first of all what surgeons would be implanting our device?
DR.
JENSEN: Yes, how do you pick your
surgeons, yes. For example, in the
NASDA trial, surgeons had to have a five percent or lower complication rate in
order to be in the trial. So are you
just saying anybody who is a neurosurgeon or vascular surgeon or do you have to
have some criteria?
MR.
PARNIS: Okay, slide up please. In our labeling, we do recommend that
surgeons be experienced in surgery within the carotid sheath. That is in our current labeling and that
will be -- and it's in our depression labeling, in the draft labeling as it
sits today.
Sixty-four
percent of our surgeons are neurosurgeons today. We do have other surgeons.
There's ENTs, general surgeons, vascular surgeons could do the
procedures. So we do recommend that
surgeons be experienced in working within the carotid sheath.
DR.
JENSEN: But you're not going to have a
minimum number of carotid procedures performed per year? It's just all that they can say is I'm
experienced?
MR.
PARNIS: No, no.
DR.
JENSEN: Okay. All right. What about who
can program it?
MR.
PARNIS: T-21 please. As far as programming, we do have -- for
psychiatrists, we will have a training program in place. The training will consist of the device
overview as well as product labeling.
Going over the experience that we do have in VNS and epilepsy as well as
going over the training itself as far as the programming, diagnostics, and the
experience that we have in the D-02 studies.
A
member of Cyberonics, our therapeutic consultants, clinical engineers, clinical
technical services do perform the training for psychiatrists.
DR.
JENSEN: Okay. Is there any plan to have any sort of proctor program where you
send somebody to the site for the first however many --
DR.
RUDOLPH: We do recommend that
physicians do consult with an experienced VNS user before prescribing VNS. That's in our current labeling today as well
as in the labeling for depression.
In
addition to that, we do offer proctoring.
DR.
JENSEN: Is there any plan for any sort
of registry to follow up the first however many number of patients?
DR.
RUDOLPH: Yes, definitely. We've been actively talking about and
planning a depression -- a treatment-resistant depression registry.
DR.
JENSEN: And do you have an idea of how
many -- how many numbers of patients you would enroll in the registry and how
long you would follow them for?
DR.
RUDOLPH: We -- as you may or may not
know, we have an epilepsy registry. And
we're somewhat modeling it on that although we're trying to make it a new and
improved version.
I'll
ask Dr. Wingard to come up because she has the primary responsibility for
developing the registry so she can give you the specific numbers.
DR.
WINGARD: This is a draft form of the
registry. But we actually do have a
protocol for a TRD registry for the United States. And we're initially going to have a TRD registry so that patients
who have VNS therapy as well as those who do not have VNS therapy will be
allowed to come into the registry.
We're
initially going to have it at 20 sites.
These are our sites that did our investigative studies in D-02 and then
this will expand to about approximately 60 sites in the United States.
And
when they are enrolled in the registry, we will be asking all kinds of
demographic information, patient history as well as their psychiatric history,
medical history.
And
then we will be following them at least on a quarterly basis for approximately
three years.
DR.
RUDOLPH: How many total patients?
DR.
WINGARD: In the end, we're planning to
have about 9,000 patients in the TRD registry that we will be following.
DR.
JENSEN: Thank you.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Dr. Ortiz?
MEMBER
ORTIZ: As a follow up to that, I have
another question. So -- and the purpose
for the non -- the patients that are not going to receive the device, what will
be the purpose of those people in the registry?
DR.
RUDOLPH: To better understand the
course of treatment-resistant depression.
You know, as you probably appreciate this more, and actually the
published literature is fairly scant on longer-term outcomes in
treatment-resistant depression patients.
MEMBER
ORTIZ: Okay. My questions are more clinical.
What
can you tell us about the co-morbidity of the patients in your studies? I'm interested -- it seems like a number
were on atypical antipsychotics. And
I'm wondering if they had depression with psychotic features or they had
concomitant psychotic problems?
I'm
also interested in a little bit more about the personality issues, cognitive
issues. Can you elaborate a little on
that?
DR.
RUDOLPH: Yes, first of all, the use of
the atypicals was as a treatment for treatment-resistant depression didn't
represent a psychotic depression, there were some specific exclusions of
patients in the D-02 protocol.
And
those included patients with psychotic depression, patients with a drug or
alcohol abuse, and patients with a schizoaffective disorder. And if I'm forgetting any, perhaps Dr. Rush
could chime in.
DR.
RUSH: Well, I just want to --
DR.
RUDOLPH: And in terms of the Axis 2
diagnosis, they were not specifically excluded.
DR.
RUSH: And I just want to emphasize
there were no patients with a current or lifetime history of psychotic
depression in the trials. They, of
course, could have bipolar 1 disorder in the depressed phase, not mixed, not
manic, and not rapid cycling.
DR.
RUDOLPH: Rapid cycling was the other
category excluded. So I think I covered
all of them. Schizoaffective, rapid
cycling, psychotic depression, and drug and alcohol abuse.
MEMBER
ORTIZ: Schizoaffective was included or
was not?
DR.
RUDOLPH: Was excluded.
MEMBER
ORTIZ: Excluded. Okay.
The
other question I have is from the FDA presentation. On page 15, and again you seemed to address a couple of the
variables. They have a list of
variables that they were --they have a question mark about the -- if there were
any notation about it. But I guess this
is more for the sponsor.
I'm
interested if you did have -- I know you had thyroid up there that you showed
us. Then you showed us some data on
ethnicity. But premorbid personality,
family history, other losses, was there any data on those areas as well?
DR.
RUDOLPH: I'm sorry. We thought you were asking the FDA.
MEMBER
ORTIZ: No, no.
DR.
RUDOLPH: We were hoping to leave the
table for a little while.
MEMBER
ORTIZ: I was asking you. I wanted a follow up to the FDA question is
what I want.
DR.
RUSH: Sorry, no, no, we misunderstood.
Let
me take them one at a time. With regard
to personality disorders, there was no formal structured interview for
personality disorders. And, therefore,
we did not diagnose them. I would put
in context that the consent form is a multi-page, single-spaced document which
says something like you have received an implantable device, the safety and
efficacy of which is unknown for your condition.
This
tends to take certain personality disorders and move them to the side. But it's not a -- it's just a practical
screener. So we really do not know the
types of personality disorders that were included and certainly none were
excluded.
Any
social personality disorders tend not to sign up for this sort of thing. Borderline personality disorders, especially
with the multiple baseline requirement and the complex consent tend to shy away
from it. I'm just speaking clinically.
But
we have no data for you. As you know,
in TRD, the incidence, the prevalence of personality disorder is very
high. It's high in chronic depression,
over 60 percent from the Keller Study done a few years ago. Probably on the order of 75 to 80 percent in
treatment-resistant depression.
Some
of that is actually due to the chronic nature of the depression. And as I mentioned this morning, when you
treat the depression, you often -- it has been documented in trials, that some
of the people with so-called personality disorders even diagnosed by structured
interview, studied 12 to 14 weeks later when not depressed, no longer meet
those criteria for that personality disorder.
So
we know from the work of Akiskal and others that the personality disorder range
is very high but also fluid, highly dependent on the state of depression.
And
finally from the work of Klerman and Hirshfield back in the 80s and replicated
by others since, I'm sure that you recall that the reliability of personality
diagnoses in the midst of significant depressive symptomatology that lasts for
a time is really not very high.
So
that was the reason to elect not to attempt to diagnosis these personality
disorders. So that's one.
Family
history of mood disorders, if I recall, we reported and I want to say it's
around 50 percent in first degree relative, something like that. It's significant, as you would expect, in
this kind of condition.
And
the others?
MEMBER
ORTIZ: They talked about -- they asked
about losses and substance abuse.
DR.
RUSH: No, we had no codification of
losses. Our assumption here was that
the chronicity and/or recurrent nature required. The two years or greater in the current episode or the four more
episodes in the lifetime would identify people with serious depression that
would be long lasting and, therefore, require an implantable kind of
intervention.
And
that people that were suffering depression from losses alone would have
recovered from the losses in the typical time, at six months, as you know, with
DSM, or they would have -- the loss would have triggered a major depressive
episode that now would meet those criteria, that is two years or more, or they
would have multiple episodes, typically not all triggered by losses, as you
know.
So
we didn't codify losses and we don't have that.
What
was the last one?
MEMBER
ORTIZ: Substance abuse was the other
one.
DR.
RUDOLPH: That was excluded --
DR.
RUSH: Drug and alcohol was excluded.
DR.
RUDOLPH: -- by the protocol.
MEMBER
ORTIZ: Okay.
DR.
RUSH: Six months, I think, six or
twelve months, one year. Thank
you. Twelve months exclusion.
MEMBER
ORTIZ: Okay. Thank you.
DR.
RUDOLPH: It might be worth mentioning
that these typically aren't measured in antidepressant drug trials either.
DR.
RUSH: No, but often drug and alcohol is
excluded.
DR.
RUDOLPH: Yes, that's true. Usually I would say.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Dr. Malone?
MEMBER
MALONE: I don't know how many questions
I have but I have some general comments on design. But I don't know if it is appropriate to make them now.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Sure, go ahead.
MEMBER
MALONE: I come from the psychopharm
advisory committee, so we're used to looking at drug trials.
And
in many ways, I think the same criteria should be used for judging this data
because it is a treatment for a psychiatric disorder. So it's the kind of disorder we're usually used to looking at.
And
most psychiatric -- and depression, like most psychiatric disorders, has
spontaneous remissions, variable treatment responses, variable placebo
responses in each study.
You
know for instance, if you read Kahn's reviews of the FDA data, he shows that
you get all these differences every time you do a study. And so he recommends that you use double
blind placebo-controlled studies with randomization.
And
I really think that that's the kind of standard you generally need for most
psychiatric disorders to show that a treatment works.
DR.
RUDOLPH: Could I respond to that? Or --
MEMBER
MALONE: You could but I'm not finished
yet.
DR.
RUDOLPH: Okay, sorry.
MEMBER
MALONE: I also read, you know, the
articles that you provided us and this is where -- I mean I had these ideas
from other sources but these ideas are also in the articles you gave us.
And
actually Thase, I think, starts talking about treatment-resistant
depression. And even though he gives
these rates of zero to ten percent, if you read further in the article, he
starts talking about adjunctive treatments for treatment-resistant depression.
And
what he does is he starts criticizing studies that don't have randomization and
parallel controls. Now I guess -- I
mean I wouldn't say that you don't need placebo controls. I think you do.
But
even if you wanted to argue that you don't need placebo controls, I think he
says that you need -- and I believe you need randomization in parallel groups
so that, you know, both groups have to be studied out of one study with
randomization.
And
I think this is generally true in psychiatry because of the many unknowns in
psychiatric disorders with regard to outcome and treatment response. And I think they dictate that you need a
certain type of study in order to show clear evidence of efficacy.
I
don't know what the tradition in devices but I think that those sorts of
standards should be used in looking at studies that are assessing a treatment
in a psychiatric disorder.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Does the sponsor want to make a
response?
DR.
RUDOLPH: Would you like comment?
Most
of the literature you cited pertains to more common type depression. And it doesn't necessarily apply to
treatment-resistant depression.
We'll
ask Dr. Rush to comment. One of the citations
you gave, the Thase one, Dr. Rush happens to be the second author on that. So he might be particularly appropriate to
comment on that.
DR.
RUSH: That position is known as the
senior author in academia.
(Laugher.)
DR.
RUSH: I had to say that.
First
of all, I agree with your general contention that randomized controlled trials
are essential when they can be conducted in a safe and ethical and feasible
manner. And when you know that the
outcome of the disorder is not uniformly terminal. That is the preferred gold standard.
And
if I could design a study today, as opposed to what we were working with
several years ago, as I mentioned this morning, one can now, given that we have
long-term safety established in this population of very resistant patients with
VNS, and that we know effect sizes, we are now in a position that that could be
done.
The
question, I believe, is whether a randomized controlled trial is necessary
given the data we have in this condition at this time.
So
let me expand on that just a little bit.
If I could have I think it's 059.
It's one of the first slides I had this morning. I just want to go back to that because we
discussed an option in there that was very close to I think what is going to be
feasible in this population.
We
-- if the outcome of interest here is long term, which I think it must be given
the nature of the treatment that we're dealing with, then we cannot fail to
change the treatments in an ongoing way in these patients and hold them on a
constant medication regimen for a year.
It's not feasible. It's not
ethical.
I
think we'd have -- doctors wouldn't sign up.
IRBs wouldn't let us do it. I
wouldn't want to do it. I wouldn't want
to be in it. I don't think it should be
done.
So
the only way you can do that is to then allow the treatments to vary
individually, being individually managed.
And one group that gets VNS and one group that does not get VNS over a
long period of time. That is now. It was not feasible then because we didn't
have long-term safety. It is feasible
now.
Even
under those conditions, you're going to have an interaction between the
treatment, VNS if it is effective and medications and the medication
management.
In
other words, if VNS is being helpful to the medications, the need to change
medications will shift. So you'll have
fewer medication changes over time in the group that receives VNS as compared
to the group that's not receiving VNS.
That's
actually what we found in the non-randomized comparison, the control, okay?
So
if you are allowing a concomitant treatment to change while you're giving a
fixed treatment to one group and not to the other group, you are going to have
trouble being absolutely positively certain of the level of certainty that we
had hoped to get out of the D-01 trial -- sorry, D-02 acute trial, that if the
patients differ in outcome, it's all due to VNS because the concomitant
treatments are changing.
And
when you change the concomitant treatments in one group differently than in
another group, you have now two confounds.
One got VNS, one did not. One
had these kinds of changes, one has those kinds of changes.
So
even there, while you have what I would think would be very strong evidence,
you don't have, you know, totally convincing evidence of the type you get with
acute ten-week trials of the D-02 acute that we tried to set up.
So
one final comment. This was actually
brought up and debated with -- I think the sponsorship was under the Manic
Depressive Association, EGIS, we're talking about studies in bipolar disorders,
especially long-term studies.
And
there was a consensus there that whey you're dealing with long-term studies in
a chronic and recurrent illness, that the feasibility and safety of doing a
controlled trial for a long period of time with placebo and fixing all the
other regimens is really -- it's just not possible to do that.
So
because of the extremely depressed, treatment resistant, disabling, lethal
nature of the conditions that we're dealing with here, we're dealing in the
range of a lymphoma. We're going to
lose a certain number of people to this condition in the course of a one-year
trial.
I
mean please go back to the 1,000 people per month with treatment-resistant
depression that actually kill themselves.
So we're dealing with a really different group. These people are totally ineligible for any
pharmaceutical company-sponsored or, by the way, NIH-sponsored trial I've ever
been involved in.
I
am running a sequence treatment alternative to relieve depression trial. That starts with people who are not
treatment resistant. They begin with --
citolapram is the first treatment.
They're randomized to four different switch with three different augment
treatments as Level 2.
If
that fails, then they're randomized -- still randomized comparison to active
switch treatments in Level 3 to active augments in Level 4 to switch
treatments.
So
randomization is possible. But you'd
have to start with patients where it is safe, feasible, and ethical. This group has been through really
everything. So half have received
ECT. If we say well you are in the
algorithm that requires ECT, then it would be unethical to give them ECT having
already failed on it.
So
I just -- I need to help you appreciate the nature of the condition which I do
think changes the requirements of the trial.
Not to come up with any less science than we otherwise can feasibly, we
really want to do the best science.
But
as I walked through this morning, when we were designing the studies and what
we knew about the long-term safety of the treatment, in fact the short-term
safety to say nothing of the efficacy, these were the very best trials that we
could do.
This
is the first trial in the D-04, the first time any of these patients at this
level of severity have ever been studied at all much less for a year.
We
didn't know if they would get better, they would get worse. We didn't know how many would kill
themselves. We had no idea. No one has ever reported this.
And
please remember also the adjunctive VNS on to the standard of care, the D-02,
you know, post random -- post acute, the long-term D-02. It's the first time, again, anybody had ever
studied VNS beyond three months in these kinds of patients in significant
numbers.
So
we were wrestling with a -- really a totally new territory, a terribly
difficult illness with a very high risk of disability death, you saw a hospitalization, we had a patient suicide
who was a physician and so on.
So
I think that the question I'm sure for the panel and certainly one I ask myself
or I wouldn't be here is are the data sufficient given what we have to deal
with and what we have acquired?
Because
really any other explanation for a growing long-term benefit, which you don't
see following ECT, and you don't see with maintenance medication, you don't see
with any long-term treatment, there seems to be at least a sustained, if not
growing, long-term benefit in patients who have received VNS at a level of
severity and disability so bad that half of the patients receiving ECT in the
New York metropolitan area would not qualify for this study. That's the issue, I think.
And
what more -- what degree of certainty is required given the nature of the
condition and the long-term outcome, which grows in benefit rather than wanes,
which is true for all other treatments.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Dr. Ellenberg has a comment.
MEMBER
ELLENBERG: Can I comment?
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Sure.
MEMBER
ELLENBERG: I mean if I could follow up
on Dr. Malone's question.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Actually I think Dr. Malone
wanted to follow up on his question.
MEMBER
ELLENBERG: Oh, I'm sorry.
MEMBER
MALONE: I think it would be ethical to
do another study. First of all, you
already did a placebo-controlled study with a sham and it didn't work. So I don't know why it couldn't be done
again.
And
when you did you D-02/D-04 comparisons, the response was very quick. So the explanation that you needed more time
in the D-02, I mean I don't understand it.
The
other thing is if you have people going in the D-04 study for one year on
treatment as usual, I don't know why part of them couldn't ethically be
randomized to an adjunctive treatment.
And that you couldn't use some sort of controls in the at least blind
assessment of the patients.
And
I still am not convinced that you can't do those things. And I, myself, do studies in serious
psychiatric disorders, too. Currently
we're doing studies in autism. And
there's no way we could do drug treatment studies without placebo controls.
Now
people might argue that autistic children are not going to change much over a
short period of time. And they've
argued this for OCD and various other psychiatric disorders.
But
the truth of the matter is that when you do placebo-controlled studies, because
of the variability and diversity of response in course for these disorders, you
always get responses in all the arms.
And you get various responses.
And
every time you do a study, you get different rates of response. So when you don't have a concurrent control
with randomization, I'm not sure what the data means.
DR.
RUSH: Could I try --
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: We should maybe have Dr.
Ellenberg's comment and then I'll let you respond.
DR.
RUSH: Sure, thank you.
MEMBER
ELLENBERG: Well, Dr. Malone fairly well
covered it. But I think in terms of the
issue of change of treatments, I just don't see why that is a problem to allow
the change of treatments and yet have as an adjunctive therapy randomized
controlled clinical trial an assessment of VNS in the field, randomly assigned
to those subjects that are given standard of care is totally analyzable and
will give you solid results.
So
that's just a further comment on what Dr. Malone's point is.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: And actually, before you
responded, I come from the cerebral vascular, cardiovascular disease world
where that's the norm. You would
evaluate if a statin prevents heart disease.
These patients are on lots of other therapies. And this is the way the trials are done.
It's
an add on to all of the other adjunctive therapies that they get so that,
again, I think it speaks to the fact that it's not valid to say you can't do
the study where medications are changing in the background.
DR.
RUSH: Well, let me clarify. First of all, that was not my position. So let me be clear. What I was saying was at the time that we
started, where we were going we had no
evidence of long-term safety or efficacy of VNS. Could we do a long term -- could I have the slide up?
Could
we do a long-term trial now in which patients are treated with doctors' best
choice, severely depressed, and half get VNS and half do not? Yes.
Because now we know the long-term safety and have some clue about
efficacy of VNS that we didn't know earlier.
So
I'm saying in the course of development, which I went through this morning when
you and I were talking, that was not an option. We couldn't do a long-term.
We didn't even have an idea of safety in the short run. No idea that there was a signal at all for
antidepressant effect.
So
I'm not saying that it can't be cone.
Or it's not ethical or feasible given our current state of knowledge,
which has taken six years to acquire.
But
way back when we started, we didn't have that knowledge base and couldn't, in
my view, make that judgment with any evidence, okay?
The
issue of variable outcome, I want to have two slides, one is the slide from the
ECT followup. Do you know what I'm
talking about? The non-responders and
responders from the Harold Study. And
the other is just the -- I think you have the D-04 IDS or something like
that. But Harold's is the most
important.
The
fact of the matter is that it is true that patients who enter efficacy trials
for depression drug development have a very wide variation in outcome. Placebo responses all over the board. Studies have been done to show that more
than half the time the drug doesn't even separate from placebo.
What
kinds of individuals enter those studies?
I've done them for 30 years so I can tell you. And many of you know. You
sit on the panels and so on and done the studies. These are individuals who are symptomatic volunteers, taking no
other medication, who are willing to go through a drug washout, who are not
acutely suicidal, have minimal co-morbidity, psychiatric and/or general
medical, are capped at two years in the current episode.
Most
of the trials in the last ten years have done that. You cannot be in the episode more than two years. You cannot have failed on more than one medication
in the current episode. And they are
acute eight- to ten-week trials. And
you look for a signal. And they have to
accept a placebo randomization, of course.
Now
that is entirely feasible with symptomatic volunteers. The reason that we did not have a placebo in
Star D is because when you move into real patients, and Star D only allows real
patients, no symptomatic volunteers, the first thing that you are struck by is
massive comorbidity, many of these patients would not be allowed, because of
the co-morbid illnesses into the standard efficacy trials with symptomatic
volunteers.
Second
is their length of illness, the length of illness in these patients is on
average 20 years, the current episode is 20 months. This is a sample drawn out of primary care and specialty care
practice. These are real patients, not
symptomatic volunteers, okay?
More
than half the patients in that trial are not eligible for efficacy trials run
right now for the purposes of developing drugs for regulatory approval. That means they're really not
representative.
We
throw out the co-morbid, the general medical conditions, 60 percent have a
concomitant general medical condition.
May of them are not eligible for placebo-controlled efficacy trials
because they don't know the safety of the drug that they're using, they don't
want to give it to people at risk, which is very reasonable.
So
I really -- I must tell you these patients are totally, completely different
from patients that go through depression trials. I'm not saying you can't do a randomized trial. I want to be very clear about that.
What
we know now with this treatment over the long run in terms of safety, you can
do a long-term trial. The one thing,
though, that you will have naturally is you are going to have to let treatment
change over time. You cannot take these
people off of all their drugs and make them go onto placebo in my judgment.
No
one agree to it. I frankly wouldn't
take them off. Many of these patients
are in and out of the hospital, barely holding on, with multiple medications to
keep them as outpatients. I mean I
would -- my IRB would not allow a pure placebo control. I would not do a placebo control.
And
I don't know a patient, short of psychotic depression, that would take
one. But you could do an active
treatment, and an active treatment plus VNS.
When you -- can I have that slide up?
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: And actually we're going to
have to kind of curtail your comments a little.
DR.
RUSH: I'm going to finish -- I'll finish
in one minute. Just one slide that says
it all. Can I just have that one up
that's here?
This
is the issue of probability of spontaneous improvement in resistant
depression. This is a group that
received ECT here, okay, and they either did not hit a remission or they did
hit remission. This is from a Sackheim
study, a Prudic's study, I'm sorry, of ETC beneficiaries in New York.
The
people that benefitted from ECT as a group started to lose it, as I showed you
this morning, so they worsened. The
group that did not benefit or they benefitted but didn't hit remission, they
got improvement with ECT but didn't hit remission. Hamilton is now only 20 so they're eligible for studies.
Notice
their course over the subsequent 24 weeks.
These patients are not spontaneously improving. Treatment-resistant depression does not
spontaneously improve over time as a group.
And, therefore, you may not need that kind of control.
MEMBER
MALONE: Well, I mean it sounds to me like you're saying you're ready to do a
pivotal study now you know the parameters.
And I still think you need to randomize treatments and have concurrent
control.
It
sounds like you're saying you're ready to do it.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: And I think we're just going to
continue to move along and see if Ms. Wells and Mr. Balo have any specific
questions that they need -- they would like to ask.
Ms.
Wells?
MEMBER
WELLS: I just have a couple.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: And if I could ask the sponsor
to limit their responses to directly answering the question.
MEMBER
WELLS: The D-03 study is still ongoing?
DR.
RUDOLPH: That's correct. It's still enrolling patients.
MEMBER
WELLS: Do you have any intermediate
results on that?
DR.
RUDOLPH: Are you asking about
effectiveness? Outcomes? Or --
MEMBER
WELLS: Yes, effectiveness.
DR.
RUDOLPH: Yes, we do. The D-02 is an open study so I put that
qualification out -- D-03, I'm sorry, is an open study. Their interim results, the results so far
are similar to the D-010 in terms of response rates.
MEMBER
WELLS: Okay. During the D-02, was it ever suspended by any IRb during the
study course for SAEs or AES?
DR.
RUDOLPH: No, it was not.
MEMBER
WELLS: Okay.
MEMBER
BALO: I just have one question. I'm going to give the sponsor a little rest
because I'm going to ask the FDA this question.
In
light of Dr. Davis's information that she put up, there seemed to be a lot of
questioning about the propensity analysis and also the covariant analysis. With the data that she put up, I'm wondering
if this basically answered some of the concerns that Dr. Lao had, relevant to
the propensity analysis.
DR.
LAO: This is Chang Lao. I see the
propensity score repeated measured linear regression analysis which was done
reasonably well. But for the comparison
of the two response rates, I reviewed it statistic plane everywhere they did
talk about logistic regression and covariance.
But
for some reason, there are many, many different volumes of submissions. To compare two proportions of response, how
come I didn't see this logistic regression and covariance and it means compare
two proportions to adjust for covariant.
So I would like to know which volume the analysis was there. And that's my concern.
MEMBER
BALO: But she also provided that they
did do adjustment of all the covariance, which was one of your concerns in your
presentation. And so I would imagine
that that would sort of resolve at least one of the issues you had with your
statistics.
DR.
LAO: Well, propensity score here in the
repeated measure and integration includes 17 covariates.
MEMBER
BALO: Yes.
DR.
LAO: There's three covariates in terms
of percentage of the ECT use during the current episode, current use or
lifetime use were very highly significant before an adjustment.
But
after the adjustment, they become non-significantly different between D-02 and
D-04. So an adjustment procedure works
for the second covariant before an adjustment.
But
the reason the propensity score was non-significant in the repeated measured
regression, it means after an adjustment they reclassified each individual
patient into one of the five subgroups based on the propensity score
probability.
Like
if each individual patient has a predicted probability after D-02 assignment,
like you can roughly classify each patient into probability into zero to .2, .2
to .4 and up to .8 and 1.0, rank and order.
Then rank and order, then reclassify.
So
I think that the propensity score did a good job here --
MEMBER
BALO: Okay.
DR.
LAO: -- in the repeated measure linear
equation.
MEMBER
BALO: Okay. Thank you.
DR.
LAO: Thank you.
MEMBER
BALO: Dr. Pena, can I ask you a
question?
I'm
just wondering with D-04, you know, dealing with the sponsor why there was
never discussion about safety data.
DR.
PENA: In D-04?
MEMBER
BALO: D-04.
DR.
PENA: Okay.
MEMBER
BALO: I was wondering in your
discussions with the sponsor when they were submitting D-04, did the FDA ever
request them to have safety data?
DR.
PENA: The D-04 was conducted local IRB
jurisdiction so it didn't require any FDA approval. In addition, when they submitted the revised statistical plan
back on September 3, 2002, FDA responded with a correspondence letter saying
that we had serious concerns with this comparison.
We
additionally had conference calls that further underscored those concerns. So I think we had a lot of concerns about
that comparison and use of that open label controlled study, observational
controlled study.
MEMBER
BALO: Okay, thank you.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Dr. Witten, do you have any
comments or questions?
DR.
WITTEN: No.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: And I think that before we move
on, Dr. Fochtmann has three questions that she would like to address to the
person responsible for safety issues.
MEMBER
FOCHTMANN: The first question that I
have -- actually the first two questions, I believe on the exclusion criteria
for the study, was mentioned patients with carotid stenosis as shown by
ultrasound and the other group of patients that was mentioned were patients
with a diagnosis of obstructive sleep apnea because of the chance of increasing
apneic episodes with the stimulation.
My
question relates to whether there is a need for either initial specific
screening for those disorders in people who would be using this clinically
and/or ongoing assessments? Certainly,
I know, obstructive sleep apnea is often undiagnosed in community samples and
in a group such is this which, as your data show, have an increased body mass
index, there might also be further increases in sleep apnea.
So
is that something that needs to be taken into consideration from a safety
standpoint in terms of future use in the general population?
DR.
RUDOLPH: There is already a warning in
our labeling with regard to obstructive sleep apnea. It doesn't require screening of the patient, however. And we have the epilepsy safety experience
which shows that that warning -- it would suggest that warning has been
sufficient to protect the safety of the populous.
MEMBER
FOCHTMANN: Okay. But warning specifically relates to
diagnosed sleep apnea. And my concern
is about people who may have it that are just not diagnosed.
DR.
RUDOLPH: No, I understand. And that's how the warning is currently
written in the label.
MEMBER
FOCHTMANN: Okay. The other question that I had related to the
issue of patients who are not adherent with treatment. And it was specifically mentioned both in
the presentation and the graph labeling information that this might be a
particular treatment that could be considered in patients who are non-adherent.
My
concern with that relates to the issue that the patient brochure and some of
the other information in the volumes we received mentions the need for
individuals to continuously carry the magnet with them in the event that the
needed to turn off the stimulation.
In
a patient who we would see clinically that we would think may not be totally
reliable and, therefore, non-adherent, would we have reason to be concerned
about their reliability in not always carrying the magnet with them from a
safety standpoint?
DR.
RUDOLPH: The magnet is mostly a
convenience for temporarily turning off stimulation for minor side effects like
a common situation where it's used in turning off stimulation to stop voice
alteration in a patient who might sing in a choir or who has to do public
speaking. So it's there more for these
nuisance side effects. And it doesn't,
you know, the absence of carrying the magnet wouldn't impose any undue major
safety risk on the patient, which, I think, is a short answer to your question.
DR.
RUSH: There's just -- there's a little
convenience factor, in order for the magnet to stop the stimulation, it has to
be held over the device.
So
you'd have to intentionally tape the magnet over the device and walk around
with that taped on 24/7 in order to stop the device. So the likelihood in our clinical experience is that really is
not likely at all.
MEMBER
FOCHTMANN: Yes. My concern was more that there would be an
adverse event. That the patient would
have left the magnet at home. And they
wouldn't be able to turn it off.
DR.
RUSH: Oh, we've had some patients ask
-- yes, we've actually given patients several magnets. One for the car, one for the office, and one
for home. Several of our patients
actually like that.
MEMBER
FOCHTMANN: Okay.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Another question here.
MEMBER
JAYAM-TROUTH: I had actually a couple
of questions.
Does
it effect it when you go through the airport screening process you know?
DR.
RUDOLPH: No.
MEMBER
JAYAM-TROUTH: There's no magnetic
interference then?
DR.
RUDOLPH: No.
MEMBER
JAYAM-TROUTH: So you don't have to
readjust it or reset it?
DR.
RUDOLPH: No.
MEMBER
JAYAM-TROUTH: What about this
imaging? You know I was just looking at
those and I was a little puzzled. And
apparently all of the stimulation on the PET scan appears to go to the left
brain? You know is that then true that
the major connection is to the left brain except the single place where it
crosses over and goes to the right brain?
DR.
HENRY: Yes, Thomas Henry, Associate
Professor of Neurology, Emory University.
I would like to disclose that I did imaging studies. And Emory was reimbursed by Cyberonics as
well as my participation in the epilepsy E-05 study. And my transportation to this meeting was paid.
If
I could have the PET slide that is in question here. I think this is --
MEMBER
JAYAM-TROUTH: 38.
DR.
HENRY: Well, this one.
MEMBER
JAYAM-TROUTH: Slide 38.
DR.
HENRY: Oh, slide 38, okay.
I'm
not sure that this is the slide you're looking for. This is one that address your question showing that acutely
during vagus nerve stimulation there are significant blood flow increases
bilaterally as well as some significant blood flow decreases.
This
is a group of five patients in the epilepsy E-05 study who were scanned within
the first 24 hours after VNS was turned on for the first time. So this is an acute stimulation effect. PET scans were compared during vagus nerve
stimulation versus without stimulation within subjects and then co-registered
to MRI here across five subjects.
So
with one centimeter spacing on these axial images, subject left on image right,
the usual convention, we were able to discern areas of significant blood flow
increase in the dorsal rostrum. The
medulla -- here are other brain stem regions along known pathways projecting up
to autonomic and limbic centers in the hypothalamus, the thalamus bilaterally.
And
then bilateral orbital frontal cortex, insular cortex, and other relevant areas
of the limbic system. Or posteriorly,
however, in the singlet and hippocampus decreases were seen, the main area of
significant asymmetry is in the subjects who felt left cervical paresthesias
during stimulation.
Only
the right sensory strip, precentral gyrus was really activated. And you can see a specificity there for this
somatasensory distribution here just on one side.
But
most of the other stimulations may have been a little asymmetric but overall
were bilateral.
I
hope that addressed your question.
MEMBER
JAYAM-TROUTH: Well, yes, but your PET
Scan No. 38, you know, in your slides was almost lateralized to the left side.
DR.
BRANNAN: This is the image you were
asking about, is that correct?
MEMBER
JAYA-TROUTH: Yes.
DR.
BRANNAN: Okay. Also get ready for the next slide, 39 -- not
this one but the next in the sequence.
In
this particular -- when you're looking here, you actually see a lot of midline
activity in the singlet but you do see in these particular slices activity on
the left. But when you're looking at
one slice, you're not looking at the whole brain.
And
so similar to what Dr. Henry was saying, 052 please, 052, slide up, here, I
think, this is one-year scan data that is available from University of
Minnesota. And let me just draw your
attention -- let see -- right down here, so you see very nicely there's
bilateral, almost mirrorlike activation or deactivation patterns here.
So
there's really bilateral activation. It
doesn't mean that there aren't some areas that are asymmetric but you're not
seeing left-sided activation in the PET studies or FMRI studies either.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Thank you.
MEMBER
JAYAM-TROUTH: Thank you.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: In the interest of time, we're
going to move on to the FDA questions.
And do you want to put the FDA questions up for us?
I
think the first question that the FDA has is one that we've spent a lot of time
discussing already, and that's the limitation of the long-term D-02/D-04
comparative analysis.
And
that the comparisons are not from a randomized data set but rather comparison
of outcomes from an investigational device study and observational control
study.
And
while the sponsors did do a propensity adjustment strategy, there are still
potential biases that exist.
And
so the FDA would like the panel to discuss the impact of a comparative analysis
of non-randomized subject data, comparison of outcomes from an investigational
study and the observational study and the unmeasured patient variables upon
efficacy outcomes in this PMA submission.
And
I think we'll just go around the table and get comments from the different
panel members. And we'll start with Dr.
Ellenberg.
MEMBER
ELLENBERG: This is a non-randomized
comparative controlled trial with a single blind on the primary outcome
measure. And in my view, in spite of
the extraordinary analyses presented by the sponsor, attempting to demonstrate
that the baseline observed differences and other characteristics that might
effect the nature of the patients that were entered into the two arms, that
this type of analysis by showing that there were no difference -- there were
differences seen, either clinically or statistically, does not replace the
concept for randomization.
And
it does not specifically address the issue of all of those variables that we
cannot measure, did not think about, and come into play when you compare two
arms as has been done here.
And
so my sense is that we need to stick to the standard of a randomized controlled
trial in order to evaluate the VNS. And
that's a set standard. It appears from
the discussions we've had with sponsor that such a trial could be done today
although it couldn't be done perhaps at the time that the original D-02 was
done.
So
my conclusion is that there could be a major impact on these results that we
cannot see, we cannot measure. And we
can guess all we want. We can
speculate. But I don't find this at the
acceptable level of a randomized clinical trial.
MEMBER
JAYAM-TROUTH: While I agree that there
is a problem there, and that we do have, you know, no definite randomized trial
here, there's no comparison, but I do see the point that, you know, at the time
that this was taking place, such a randomization could not have occurred.
You
know I also feel that when I look at the two groups of people and I look at the
D-04 and the D-02, that the D-04 certainly had, perhaps, you know, patients who
were better. You know from the slides
that we can see, they did not need as much ECT. And they, you know, had not been into as many multiple trials, et
cetera, you know, as the patients who were put into the D-02 studies.
So
I think that even though these are not really truly comparable, I think that,
you know, having used it as data for comparison, even though it doesn't fit
into randomization, I feel that, you know, at the time that this was a study
that we could kind of look at and we could say, okay, you know, there is a
comparison there that can be made.
If
at all, it's skewed towards worse patients in the D-02 study.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Dr. Fochtmann?
MEMBER
FOCHTMANN: I would certainly concur
with both of those impressions. And I
would also really emphasize the point that has been made by the sponsor that
this compared to studies of depressed patients in other studies is a very, very
unique group of individuals.
And
one of the groups of patients that we as clinicians, even those of us who have
expertise in treatment such as electroconvulsive therapy, are always confronted
with how to assist these individuals with these obviously devastating
illnesses.
And
so although I would agree that in an ideal world it would be nice to be able to
do, at this point knowing what we know now, further study, I'm concerned about
the potential burden to patients who might not be able to receive a viable
treatment for this very severe illness.
And
so I would want to seriously weigh both sides of the issue.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: I would just add that I think
the data look very promising and do suggest that there's a benefit there
although it's really difficult to be sure given the difficulty in comparing the
two groups.
And
this seems like to me the right time to do the pivotal control trial.
Dr.
Wang?
MEMBER
WANG: Yes, just sort of echoing what I
said earlier, in terms of the fact that you didn't see differences after, you
know, before versus after your propensity score adjustment, there's several
ways to interpret that. One is, you
know, maybe you didn't have a very good propensity score. You know you didn't either have the
unmeasured variables that you needed.
There
are other ways that you can also have a poorly performing score, you know, how
did you categorize your variables? What
did you do with your missing information?
You know did you bury it into the extremes? That sort of thing.
But
what I do find promising is your acute phase data which is randomized. And maybe this is a point for later
discussion but I'm just curious why there wasn't sort of a push to do more --
not as Dr. Rush was saying long term but acute phase randomized. Why
not acquire more of that data? Because
it looked like you were about on the threshold of seeing a significant result.
DR.
JENSEN: I sympathize with your
situation. As an interventional nerve
radiologist, I deal with a lot of groups of patients who have no other viable
alternatives except what is being offered.
I liken this particular situation with ours concerning percutaneous
vertebroplasty, which is a treatment of patients with osteopartic compression
fractures who have failed all medical therapies.
And
what we found was that there was a very high response. But when we started out with this, we didn't
do a randomized control trial. We did
best medical therapy versus vertebroplasty with using patients as their own
internal controls.
When
we then went back and tried to do a randomized controlled trial to show the
data, it was impossible because vertebroplasty was now too widespread. It was available everywhere. And patients would not consent to being
randomized.
So
for me one of the issues is of timing.
One of the differences between this particular study and vertebroplasty
is we had consistently across different sites 80 to 90 percent response. And yours is 30 percent.
So
for me one of the issues is timing.
This may be the only time to actually get the data that you need to
prove without some of the doubts that have been raised here that this is truly
efficacious.
MEMBER
ORTIZ: I agree with what's been
previously said that it's unfortunate this wasn't designed differently but I
think it's understandable given the nature of this group, that the blinding
that was built into this study.
And
my impression is that both the anecdotal reports as well as the long-term
symptom reports and the comparison with the K-04 group suggests that this would
provide a significant alternative treatment to what's available.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Dr. Malone?
MEMBER
MALONE: I guess I already said that I
don't think that you can use that sort of control. I think that the sponsor did demonstrate they could randomize to
a sham treatment and carry out such a study.
You know I think that's what's needed.
It
is possible that this is a viable treatment.
But it's also possible that it's not a treatment. And there are ethical issues on both sides
of the fence here.
So
I'm not sure that it's quite ethical to give a treatment for which there is
not, I don't think, substantial treatment.
You may just be providing people with more side effects and no increased
efficacy.
And,
you know, there's something I don't think the PA analyses can ever get out,
when we do our studies, we screen people for studies. And once they find out it's a drug study, there are people, and
we never can predict from any demographics, who say no, I don't want my child
on a drug.
I
only have to think that the group of patients who will consent to have this
procedure done, because I don't think it's -- it's not getting your tooth
pulled, is different in some way that we can't really find in these PA
analyses.
And
so I think, you know I think that's the failure of those analyses, that you may
be pulling different groups of patients because of the interventions. Some people will agree to some interventions
and some won't.
And
there's no way from the data that I've seen that you can tell who would or
wouldn't agree.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Ms. Wells?
MEMBER
WELLS: I agree with Dr. Ortiz.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Mr. Balo?
MEMBER
BALO: I think we've heard a lot about
the design of the study, whether it's randomized or non-randomized. And I think the company really -- I think
Dr. Rush really explained it pretty explicitly about they really didn't know
what they had when they started the study.
It was never really a long-term test for this population that was so
unique that we didn't know how the VNS was going to operate.
I
think from a randomization perspective, I think in devices, sometimes
randomization studies are not done and devices get approved. Obviously the optimal would be do
randomization.
But
my feeling is that the company actually went out, dealt with the FDA, looked at
the data after three months, saw that they needed to get some long-term results
because they -- and I think I also agree with Dr. Wang that, you know, the
acute data did have some promise to it.
And
I do feel that maybe if they would have continued with this study a little bit
longer, it would have given them a little bit better data. And we wouldn't be in such a controversy
right now.
But I do also feel that the analysis that
was done by Dr. Rush and by the sponsor did try to show that there was some
potential benefit. And I do feel that
there is some potential benefit to the device.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: So it sounds like the panel
thinks that the sponsor did a really good job in dealing with the data that
they had. But the data that they had
was not the optimal data. And that
there are limitations in comparing the two groups that exist.
DR.
WITTEN: Thank you.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Next we'll move on to question
2 which is the sponsor believes that D-02 long-term outcomes are not due to a
placebo effect. The data provided in
the PMA includes a placebo effect rate, 20 percent, in sham treatment
controlled subjects at acute phase exit as defined by HAM-D score less than 18.
Patient
expectation of participating in an investigational study for new therapies,
such as the D-02 study, may have also been greater than the expectation of
participating in an observational control study.
Please
discuss the placebo effect and impact upon clinical outcomes presented in the
PMA.
And
I think, Mr. Balo, we're going to start at your end of the table and come
around this way.
MR.
BALO: I have no comment about that.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Ms. Wells?
MEMBER
WELLS: I have no comment either.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Dr. Malone?
MEMBER
MALONE: As I said before, when Khan
reviewed all the FDA data and I know that Dr. Rush doesn't think it applies but
I think some of it has to apply. It's
the best data that we have.
The
placebo response rates are different in every study. And so I think that it's hard to really know what the -- what
placebo response there is in this study.
The
other thing is when Khan examined all of the FDA data -- well, I don't know if
it was all, it was a ten-year period of recent antidepressant trials, and there
have been a lot of them recently, what he found was that the HAM-D scores
decreased for every group. So they
decreased for the drug treatment group.
They decreased for the drug comparator group. And they decreased for the placebo group.
So
when you have a long-term study and you get a decrease in scores, it's really
hard to know what that means. One would
actually expect scores to decrease in the long term. So that, for instance, when the scores decrease across time in
D-02, it's hard to know why that happens without what I would think would be an
adequate comparator.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Dr. Ortiz?
MEMBER
ORTIZ: I guess my only comment is that
psychiatric studies placebo responses are often high. And I think this particular population is so complicated and
probably does have a very high incidence of Axis 2. It's hard to interpret the placebo response.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Dr. Jensen?
DR.
JENSEN: I agree with Dr. Ortiz. I do appreciate the sponsors pointing out
though that placebo response is normally short and not long term, which is
certainly what we saw with vertebroplasty, too. Patients would get better immediately and then go back to having
chronic pain.
I
think another big confounding factor for me is is that it's very difficult to
blind this study because I think a lot of patients probably knew whether or not
they actually had the device turned on.
And so for me that confounds what the placebo effect might have been.
MEMBER
WANG: Yes, I think this is another one
of those issues where it's probably -- there is something probably still there
despite the very sort of rigorous reassurances, including the fact that in the
acute phase, there was, you know, 11 percent of people responded to the sham
treatment.
The
-- I'm still curious, though, earlier I raised this issue about sort of the
IDS, the difference in the outcomes when you look at the IDS versus the HAM-D
which the HAM-D is, we think, is the gold standard. But we see that the responses were somewhat, you know, more
robust at the IDS.
And
I'm wondering is it that the IDS is more prone to -- because it's a self report
and not a clinician-administered instrument, is it more prone to placebo
effects or, you know, other kinds of information biases? Because it may be a more relevant measure
for depression than the maybe antiquated HAM-D.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: I suspect that many of the
benefits seen of vigorous stimulation in the study were related to the placebo
effect but not all. And part of me
wants to say well, so what if it was a placebo effect? This is a very treatment resistant group of
patients.
And
if this placebo effect works for them and others didn't, that should be fine. But I think there's enough safety concerns
with the device, especially as brought up by Dr. Jensen with the young patients
who are being implanted now are going to have these devices in for a very long
period of time, that we really do need to be sure that the effect is more than
placebo.
And
I think only a true randomized controlled trial is going to answer that for us.
MEMBER
FOCHTMANN: I certainly would concur
with the concern about the difficulty in interpreting any sort of placebo
effect. I believe one of the previous
presenters emphasized the difference between a placebo effect and an actual
response as measured by rigorous definitions of the term response. And also persistent response.
And
I think that those are three very different parameters that should be
considered independently.
I'm
also concerned about the short term, the blinding in the short-term study as
well. But I'm not sure, given the
nature of the treatment, how one could adequately prevent people from knowing
or prevent the investigators from knowing based on the fact that the side
effects seem to be at least in some instances dose related, related to the
stimulant's intensity.
I'm
not sure how you could design a study that would totally blind those effects.
MEMBER
JAYAM-TROUTH: I agree that yes, I mean
there's really nothing in the acute phase that separated the two groups, you
know the sham as well as the D-02 groups.
But
my own feeling is that this is an invasive procedure. You know people are looking for something to happen. And then you're coming there and stimulating
them almost every four hours, every day.
They don't know that they're getting stimulated.
And
I think that in itself probably set off, you know, neuro epinephrines and every
other agent inside the brain and I think, you know, that type of an invasive
process possibly is responsible, you know, that term, that 12-week term
probably was not enough, you know?
And
possibly if that sham period had continued a little longer, we might have seen
a difference. But since the study was
not set up to show that, we do definitely see a difference in the long-term
study. And it seems like it is a
consistent, it is a sustained difference.
And
even though I agree that this was definitely the sham in the acute phase in the
D-02 did not show, you know, any significance, I think the long-term studies
kind of outweigh that.
MEMBER
ELLENBERG: I concur with Dr. Becker.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: So Dr. Witten, it sounds like
the panel, in general, feels that without a randomized study, it's very
difficult to know what to make of the placebo response and how much of the
response of VNS stimulation is due to the placebo response.
Although
there seems to be some general belief that there probably is an effect that
isn't completely placebo related, we just don't know how to measure that at
this point.
So
the third question that the FDA has posed has to do with concomitant
medications in ECT use, which were not standardized in either the D-02
long-term study or the D-04 observational controlled study.
So
please discuss the impact of concomitant medications in ECT use on
interpretation of the efficacy of VNS therapy for treatment-resistant
depression.
And
we'll start with Dr. Ellenberg this time.
MEMBER
ELLENBERG: Well, this certainly proved
to be a very interesting issue. And
again I think the sponsor did an extremely nice job in trying to tease out the
impact of concomitant meds.
I
would agree or I am sensitive to the comment that Dr. Wang made that it's difficult
to sort of speculate when there is a change in medications and you start
dealing with less observation carried forward or dropping medications or other
forms of censoring, it's very difficult to speculate as to what that means in
terms of the outcome.
I
would find it difficult to argue that because the average time to change the
medications for the DOT group, the combined DOT group with the immediate and
delayed start of VNS, that that group was disadvantaged in the sense that they
only had seven months of treatment rather than the full year. It's not clear to me that one can speculate
on that. Some additional things that I would like to see, which
I couldn't find in the volumes, would be the distribution of the change of
medication times for those on the DOT component rather than just the
average. And that might help us to
better understand the impact on the analysis.
The
second point, again I think this came out of Dr. Wang's questioning, but when
the chart was put up for the slope coefficients, looking at, I believe, five
different types of censoring, it seems to me that there were dramatic changes
in the slopes presented with the different types of censoring.
And
if you disregard the issues of statistical significance, that sensitivity
analysis, to me, was screaming that this whole process is not robust to changes
in the definition of how you censor or how you treat the censoring in the
analysis.
So
I think this is a question that needs further study. And it's certainly very interesting.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Thank you.
MEMBER
JAYAM-TROUTH: The way I see it, you
know, even if you did have, you know, ECT interfering and people could change
ECT anytime they wanted, they could change their medications anytime they
wanted, I mean there was really no randomization, there was no algorithm.
And
I guess it's the nature of the treatment that's the nature of the disease. But if it was skewed, it was skewed towards,
you know, the D-02 actually having worse patients, you know, and patients who
had had to seek more ECT, you know, as compared to the D-04s.
And
I think that the fact that they needed much less medication adjustment, you
know, I think does go along with, you know, that there was some effect in
there. So to me I think that even
though there was no definite data that you could compare and there was a lot of
alterations being made, if at all, it went skewed towards the D-02 study.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Dr. Fochtmann?
MEMBER
FOCHTMANN: The issue of the concomitant
medications is one that I continue to have questions about, the issues that I
raised earlier, which were answered, but also because of the opposite side, and
that is could concomitant medications be influencing the efficacy of VNS,
specifically the medications with anticonvulsant properties, given what we know
about ECT efficacy being impaired, in some instances, by a medication such as
benzodiazepines.
And
so I think that without some attempt at standardizing some of the concomitant
medications, it's difficult to know how to interpret one way or another what
impact that the medications might have on the VNS efficacy.
The
other issue is just in terms of the wide variety and the number of medications
that people were taking concomitantly, which makes it difficult to know how to
interpret. You could argue that because
there was -- that was present in both groups that it should wash out across the
groups but, again, it's hard to know.
But
at the same time, hard to make a standardization given the number of failed
trials that these individuals had already experienced.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: I have nothing to add.
MEMBER
WANG: I think this issue, you know,
allowing changes in the concomitant treatment makes this data we're actually
looking at not the efficacy of a device but we're now looking at the efficacy
of sort of strategies, you know, and it really is hard to sort out because,
well, for that reason.
And,
again, as has been sort of raised again, this issue of the reduction in the
magnitude of the effects estimate after you censor people who made changes or,
you know, added ECT or that sort of thing, suggests that the rescue treatment
may have been more robust, you know, a good rescue treatment. And maybe that is partially explaining the
efficacy.
But
on the other hand, what makes you analyses that you showed us conservative is
the whole issue of ceiling effects. I
wonder to the extent to which, you know, the fact that you allowed everyone to
be on concomitant treatments, did they max out and are you not able to see sort
of efficacy because everyone is on, you know, good regimens potentially.
DR.
JENSEN: I agree with Dr. Wang.
MEMBER
ORTIZ: My comment about this would be
that it would be helpful, I would think, to get further information both about
the types of ECT, at what point it was used, the specifics of antidepressants.
As
Dr. Fochtmann was saying, some of the antipsychotic medicines actually lower
the seizure threshold as well as does buproprion. And again those kinds of issues I think will be very important
for clinicians to understand better because I think though the request is only
for the VNS, the reality is clinicians will be combining it.
And
the more information they have the better.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Dr. Malone?
MEMBER
MALONE: I agree that it's difficult to
know the effect of the concomitant medicines in ECT. I don't know if there's any way a round having this. It could maybe be more standardized in a
protocol.
But
I think obviously it would have some effect on the outcomes.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Ms. Wells?
MEMBER
WELLS: I have no comment.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Mr. Balo:
MR.
BALO: I just think, you know, like
everybody said, it's going to be pretty difficult. It seems like this is a very difficult patient population and the
amount of ECTs or the amount of different medications they take would be very
difficult to sort out.
And
I think the sponsor has really done -- at least like Dr. Ellenberg said, teased
out as much as they could from the study that they did.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: So in summary, it sounds like
the panel believes that because this wasn't the randomized trial, it's hard to
know what to make of the concomitant medications, especially in light of the
fact that there's no standardized approach to medically treating these
patients.
The
sponsor did a good job in trying to sort it out but I think we're still left at
the end of the day without really knowing what to do with concomitant
medications.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Next we move on to questions of
safety and efficacy. The FDA
regulations, specifically 21 CFR 860.7(d)(1) states that there must be a
reasonable assurance that a device is safe when it can be determined that the
probable benefits to health from use of the device for its intended uses when
accompanied by adequate instructions for use and warnings against unsafe use
outweigh any probable risks.
And
so the question for the panel is do the clinical data in the PMA provide
reasonable assurance that the device is safe?
I'll
start with Mr. Balo.
MR.
BALO: I'm not a medical doctor. Basically I'm an industry
representative. You know in dealing
with these studies and putting these studies together, industry basically works
closely with the physicians, with the medical community, and with the FDA to
put forward a study that they feel will be safe and will be efficacious.
I
think the sponsor -- and to my opinion, from the data they showed, I believe
there's a lot of points that are made by Dr. Jensen, by Dr. Fochtmann, if I
said your name correctly, about the safety of the device. There are some concerns with young patients
and the future effects that the device may have.
But
looking at and listening to some of the patients speaking today about, I guess,
their new lives that they gained back, I would think that from a safety
perspective, I think it's a balancing act for me.
I
would really have to look at the patient.
I would look at the condition.
But I do think that the data they did show today, at least to me, showed
that it was a device that would be safe.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Ms. Wells?
MEMBER
WELLS: Again, I think the options are
so limited for this particular disease process that we have to consider
especially the patients that came forward this morning and spoke to us about
their device experiences.
So
I think this is something that we really need to consider as a panel.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Dr. Malone?
MEMBER
MALONE: I would consider safety against
efficacy or, you know, the cost benefit ratio and since I'm not sure that they've
shown benefit, I think there are safety concerns. So I think the safety outweighs the benefit.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Dr. Ortiz?
MEMBER
ORTIZ: Yes, I believe that the safety
is documented by the data presented on the depression studies as well as the
seven years with the use in epilepsy.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Dr. Jensen?
DR.
JENSEN: I think you've met the burden
of saying that this is a safe device when compared to the patients that have
epilepsy. I didn't see any increased
incidents of problems in this particular group so I don't think the disease
process, having the device with this disease process makes a big difference.
Again,
my big issue is just the 70 percent of patients that have an implantable device
that does not work that they now have forever and the long-term implications
that go along with that, particularly in further imaging and/or potential
surgeries.
Having
said that, I still feel that the device is safe but I think the company should
certainly look at some way of addressing those patients who have a device that
does not show any improvement in their condition. And how, if they so desire, would like it removed, have that
done.
MEMBER
WANG: I have nothing to add beyond
what's been said.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: It appears to me that the
device is safe. It has some annoying
side effects but in general it appears quite safe.
MEMBER
FOCHTMANN: My impression is also based on the data presented, that the device
shows adequate safety, particularly when weighed against the risks of
continuing, persistent, treatment-resistant depression.
The
-- I believe that the registry plan that was outlined earlier would be
extremely helpful in providing further information about the long-term effects
of the treatment. And I don't know
whether it's possible as part of that to also look at specific issues of
safety. For example if individuals need
future ECT, safety issues at the time of the ECT with having this device in
place, issues along those sorts of lines.
So
I think that with the evidence that has been presented with the registry follow
up plan that I would be comfortable with the safety.
MEMBER
JAYAM-TROUTH: I agree with Dr. Jensen
and I think that maybe, maybe you could evaluate your data a little bit more
closely and see why are some people responders and why are some people not
responders. Then maybe you don't need
to implant it into everybody in the first place.
You
know you might be able to glean some extra data and see if you need to put it
into those 70 percent of people who are "non-responders." You know, and as far as the safety in
epilepsy now I think it's been established.
It's been there for a long time.
And
there are only a few problems there.
But I do not know of long-term studies, you know, on infants. You know I know they have put some of these
in infants with Lennox Gastro Syndrome and infantile myoclonic spasms. And these are growing infants. And I do not know if they have any safety
data, you know, on whether this was okay, you know, in those situations.
I
think that too should be considered because they are among the epilepsy
studies.
MEMBER
ELLENBERG: My sense is that the safety
profile has been adequately defined for the age population being considered but
the cost benefit ratio issue I agree totally with Dr. Malone. That we don't have, the cost benefit ratio
at hand on which to base the safety profile.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: So in summary, Dr. Witten, it
sounds like the panel believes that the device is generally safe but based on
what is questionable efficacy, it's unclear whether the safety benefit ratio
rises to the point that make it something that we should achieve to use.
So
the final question has to do with efficacy, we're leading right into it
then. And this is based on the FDA
requirement 21 CFR 860.7(e)(1) which states that there should be a reasonable
assurance that a device is effective when it can be determined, based on valid
scientific evidence, that in a significant portion of the target population,
the use of the device for its intended uses and conditions of use, when
accompanied by adequate directions for use and warnings against unsafe use will
produce clinically-significant results.
Considering
your response to questions 1, 2, and 3, do the clinical data in the PMA provide
reasonable assurance that the device is effective.
So
Dr. Ellenberg, would you refresh the microphone?
MEMBER
ELLENBERG: I don't believe that we have
seen adequate evidence of efficacy from the data presented albeit the data has
been presented in an excellent way.
And
I believe that a randomized clinical trial will be the way that we have to see
the efficacy determined.
MEMBER
JAYAM-TROUTH: I agree that it appears
that the device is effective.
MEMBER
FOCHTMANN: I think we have seen some
evidence of efficacy. Whether that
meets the rigorous standard required in this question is not totally clear to
me. Obviously a more rigorously
designed study would help in answering that.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: I think there are certainly
hints to efficacy. I think it's not
been proved in the way that we're used to seeing other treatments proved in
medical trials.
MEMBER
WANG: I basically think the D-02/D-04
data are essentially not really contributory.
But again, I'll just emphasize, I think the acute phase data are
extremely positive. In my mind, you
know, you had a tendency on the HAM-D and you had a significant finding on the
IDS-SR. So I do think there's some
evidence, albeit weak for efficacy.
But
let me just say there's really two questions.
One is is it effective? And then
second, is it as effective as other modalities such as ECT?
And
from a public health perspective, that second question is also relevant since
you don't want to necessarily divert people from, you know, other potential
modalities that might help them.
DR.
JENSEN: I think I'm struggling with the
same issues as the rest of the panel.
It appears to be efficacious in certain patients. And I'm also sensitive to the fact this is a
very difficult patient population.
Again, I see similar patient populations.
Part
of me says yes, I'd love to see randomized controlled trials but in my heart I
know it would be very difficult to do that with this particular patient
populations.
I
also don't was to see what happened in the Pro Act II Study, which is where we
had data of efficacy for intraarterial thrombolysis only to be told we then
needed to have another study and the company then decided not to pursue that. And it was never made available to the
population.
MEMBER
ORTIZ: I agree with the comment Dr.
Becker made.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Dr. Malone?
MEMBER
MALONE: I think in order to show that a
treatment is effective in a psychiatric disorder, you need a randomized
controlled trial, which is positive.
And we don't have one.
So
I don't think it shows efficacy. I do
think that it is possible to do these studies because you did one. It just was a failed study.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Ms. Wells?
MEMBER
WELLS: I agree with Dr. Jensen. I think her remarks are right on.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Mr. Balo?
MR.
BALO: I sort of agree with Dr. Jensen
and Ms. Wells but I also think, you know, we're sort of looking at this with a
drug perspective and when you look at it from a company perspective, they're
running this as a device study.
And
from what I see what the company had did and the long-term effects, there are a
group of people that have this disease that could benefit from this device.
And,
again, balancing that act, I still would say that they have shown that there
are patients who could benefit. And
this would be effective for those patients.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: So Dr. Witten, it appears we
have a little consensus on this question.
It seems that some of the panel members believe that the device has been
shown to be effective. Others think
more data is needed. And still others
think that the device hasn't been shown effective for all patients but at least
the hints of efficacy in this very treatment-resistant depression group might
signal that it should be okayed for use.
So
I think with the end of the FDA question, we'll move on to the second open
public hearing on the Cyberonics Vagal Nerve Stimulation System, PMA 97003,
Supplement 50.
Is
there anybody from the audience who would like to address the panel now? If so, raise your hand and come toward the
podium.
(No
response.)
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Okay if that's not the case, I
think what we'll do is take a ten-minute break. So if everybody could return at 4:25 and we'll vote on the PMA.
(Whereupon,
the foregoing matter went off the record at 4:16 p.m. and went back on the
record at 4:30 p.m.)
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: It's 4:30, and we'll get
started and try to finish this meeting up.
I
think that we gave the sponsor a bit of a scare forgetting to mention that we
will have summations now, and we'll start with the FDA summation if there is
one, Dr. Witten.
DR.
WITTEN: There is none.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: So we'll move on to Mr. Totah
and the sponsor's summation.
MR.
TOTAH: At this point ‑‑
this is Alan Totah, Vice President of Regulatory Affairs ‑‑ at this
point, I'm going to defer to Dr. Rudolph, but I will join in in a moment. Thank you.
DR.
RUDOLPH: What we decided to do is we'd
like to have several of us address the panel, and I'm going to start. Mr. Totah's going to contribute. Dr. Rush and Dr. Sackheim are both going to
contribute as well.
The
VNS safety data that we presented today, I think the panel agreed with us that
although there may be some specific safety issues in genera, the safety is well
established, both in the depression trials and in actual clinical use for
epilepsy. Side effects do occur,
they're generally mild, stimulation related, tend to diminish over time and
rarely cause the patient to discontinue.
We didn't find any indication for any specific safety concerns for this
specific indication.
We'd
like Dr. Sackheim to sort of make ‑‑ we have several topics we want
to address, and we're going to ask Dr. Sackheim to talk about clinical benefit
in this very ill patient population.
DR.
SACKHEIM: Yes, thank you, and I
understand that this is an important and difficult issue for many of us.
When
we think about the niceties of research and the purity of designs, we also have
to think about the population in which they're going to be applied. One of the things that I think certainly
deserves emphasis here is that the types of individuals that are being
considered for this treatment are individuals in whom the likelihood of a
placebo response, even the consideration of a placebo response are quite
small. These are not children, these
are not individuals who haven't had many, many opportunities to demonstrate
placebo responses before.
What
reminds me in the less severe population in our work with electric convulsive
therapy at Columbia we have forms of ECT where we have 17 percent of the
patients responding after full course, depending on where in the brain we
stimulate and with what type of electricity.
That's acute, and what that means is that there's very little in the way
of placebo response in this severe population.
That's been demonstrated in studies of oncolic patients and the
psychotically depressed patients.
But
what's really unusual and what really actually stirred me in looking at the
findings with VNS, because for a long time I've been quite critical, was the
identification of the long-term benefit in these people, that I simply don't
know in any treatment that we can point to that has as much promise in terms of
sustaining a benefit if you get there.
It's not that a lot of people get there, but if they get there, it looks
like they hold and they hold it for a long time.
I
spent a career working with patients with treatment-resistant depression. I worked clearly in the area of ECT where
our expectations now are that in treatment-resistant patients if we get them
better, if they remit, that they become virtually asymptomatic. Seventy percent of patients will lose that
benefit within six months. That's
pretty much the standard view. This is
a context where we have a treatment where it looks like 70 percent will
maintain it maybe for two years.
So
I think there is tremendous promise here, and what we're debating hinges on the
importance of one word:
randomization. I'm the first to
say that hard core clinical work is certainly to be valued, but I also think as
you think through this little bit that control over concomitant treatments, the
strength of inference in the randomized design in some way become comprised and
lack feasibility in this population.
And
I say that for the following reasons, I'll just give you one quick
vignette. Where do you go with
standards of care with these patients who have had 20 years in some cases of
being in the same episode in Hamilton at 40 and have been treated by some of
the best people in the country? Where
we've gone has been to placed in pharmacology that put these people at risk,
that's really on the outside of pharmacology, because they're hanging on by a
threat. So standard of care is often
very dangerous, unacceptable in many ways but have to become acceptable to
these individuals.
We
are going to have a lot of problems with concomitant medications, because you
can't keep people for a long-term study in a narrow bind, particularly with
these disorders. I would submit that
randomization also is going to be a problem because of the selection bias that
that would involve. It's that we are
offering the same of nothing versus being randomized to something that might be
helpful. There may be many patients who
would reject that type of compromise and would go then on study.
In
any case, to summate, the benefit we've seen so far is something that I haven't
seen with any intervention for treatment-resistant depression. It's quite unusual. And it echoes, of course, what has been
suggested for epilepsy. I think that
very benefit and its nature indicates an effect that can't be accounted for by
a fluke of randomization, a fluke of the assignments to different studies and
is very, very unusual in the context of treatment-resistant depression. Thank you.
DR.
RUDOLPH: I want to pick up the
randomization theme a little bit, because what I picked up in listening to the
panel deliberate is that was the most troubling aspect of the program that we
presented to you today.
So,
first, I would like to talk a little bit about the D-04 as a control. It was obviously a non-randomized control,
but it should be thought of as, I think, something more than just a haphazard
control. It had many of the elements
that would give you a high degree of confidence in its ability to determine
effectiveness. It did come from a
prospectively designed study, there were overlapping sites, same exact
principle enrollment criteria, and it was conducted over a similar time
period. So this by itself should have
ensured a lot of comparability. And in
fact, as I showed you from the data, it did.
And
in terms of considering, okay, if that's not good enough, you want a randomized
trial, we did talk a lot today about what alternative trial designs might be,
and I think for the most part the panel understood the limitations of many of
the possibilities, particularly an extended placebo control trial wouldn't be
viable in this population. An active
treatment control with a single therapy wouldn't work in a population that's
already churned through so many different treatments. And, again, if I understood the panel deliberations correctly, I
think what most people gravitated to was essentially the D-02, D-04 comparison
that we did but do it in a randomized control fashion.
I'd
ask you to consider a few things. Even
randomized control trials, while they are our gold standard, they do not
necessarily guarantee that these baseline covariates are equally distributed
between groups. And the other issue
that was raised was the concomitant medication issue, but even in your
deliberations, the way I understood them, you still came back to allowing the
possibility of pretty much access to a variety of medications, as we did in
D-04.
So,
ultimately, what I took away from the discussion was that you would prefer a
randomized trial, and the one thing that would do that the D-04, D-02
comparison did not do was it would provide a higher level of confidence that
the patient populations did not differ in any significant way. So I think, ultimately, what we're asking
the panel to consider is, is that by itself or the greater confidence that you
would gain from a randomized control trial, is that by itself enough to delay
approval of this therapy; that is, would you gain that much more confidence
from randomization which essentially wouldn't address the medication issue any
better than the paradigm we used, it would only perhaps, in theory, give you
some greater level of confidence that baseline covariates were equally
distributed.
And
as you're considering that question, consider some of the analyses that you saw
during the day, particularly, I would say, not only those that show that the
patient groups were very well matched and that the propensity adjustment added
some further confidence that the patient groups or that baseline covariates
were not the explanation for the difference, but also consider some of the
analyses that you may have forgotten about that Dr. Davis presented where we
did look at what would be the effect of a single covariate, and we used all the
covariates that did differ significantly, the measured covariates, and we used
those as examples of if you adjust for that, what is the impact on the effect
size, the linear effect, that is, or the p-value and confidence limit. And you saw that any one of those didn't
contribute in any meaningful way to the overall statistical significance of the
study.
So,
again, I guess to kind of shorten it, the bottom line would be I would ask you
to consider would randomization, which would essentially, if I understand
correctly, mainly benefit only in terms of giving some greater theoretical
confidence that the patient groups would be comparable than we've already
shown, is that worth delaying approval of this product for?
One
other issue before we have Dr. Rush close, that we weren't sure that the panel,
particularly the people with more of the psychopharm background fully
appreciated was the standards for approval of a device, so Mr. Totah will
address that, and then Dr. Rush will close.
MR.
TOTAH: Thank you, Richard. Again, I'm Alan Totah, Vice President of
Regulatory Affairs. When the FDA quoted
21 CFR Part 860.70, which has to do with scientific evidence, and charged the
panel with the questions that you went through today, what they didn't give you
is the full context of that regulation, and I'm going to read to you because we
had a question from Dr. Malone that didn't get answered. I tried to get up here but we ran long, and
so now's my chance to answer his question.
I'll
quote out of 21 CFR 860.70. device regulations. "Balanced scientific evidence is evidence from
well-controlled investigations, partially controlled studies, studies and
objective trials without matched controls, well-documented case histories
conducted by qualified expert and reports of significant human experience with
a marketed device."
Now,
I think important to keep in mind after hearing that regulation for those of
you that come from the drug side or pharma side but you may not be familiar
with this part of the regulation is keep that mind. Active controls obviously fall within the scope of this
regulation.
Now,
what else I want to tell you is in my earlier speech but just a few more
details: History of approved PMAs on
the medical device side. Fifty-five
percent of all approved PMAs were supported by non-randomized clinical
trials. This is for all time. Forty-eight percent do not include
randomized control trials. Patients as
their own control, or non-randomized active control, fall into that group. Seven percent include no controls
whatsoever, and 45 percent ‑‑ only 45 percent ‑‑
include randomized control trials.
Now,
the basis for what I'm giving you is a CDRH Staff College report on least
burdensome provisions of the FDA Modernization Act of 1997, and I'm giving you
information from a March 19, 2000 presentation by the CDRH Staff College. I think you need to keep that in mind, or at
least I respectfully request that you do that, because that is the difference,
one of the differences between the drug side and the device side. Thank you.
DR.
RUSH: Just briefly, I want to add a
brief comment to the issue of efficacy.
There are some things in medicine when you see them are pathognomic. You don't see them often but when you see
them, it really means a lot, like they really have the illness. So what is pathognomic here about
efficacy? I'll just put three on the
table.
One
is the induction of bipolar disorder in 22 percent of patients. We see that in effective
antidepressants. I know it's
uncontrolled. You have patients who
have lost the battery, a battery shutdown, their depression came back. The battery was replaced, the depression
went away. That's pathognomic of
activity.
And,
thirdly, you have a predictable course of treatment-resistant depression,
unlike other kinds of depression. The
follow-up from the ECT patients, the non-responders to ECT that I showed you in
the graph from Dr. Sackheim, continue to be in a terrible state, no better for
a year. For the D-04, unchanged as a
group for a year. From the Texas
Medication Algorithm Project, single-digit sustained response rates, 14
percent, in the best case with algorithm done twice as well in using that as a
benchmark, and they're not TRD.
So
if you have an improvement that grows over time, which appears to be true,
looking at it in an uncontrolled fashion with D-02 long term that's pathognomic
of activity of the course of illness, is either the same or worsening.
Finally,
I just want to point out, and I'm sure you are aware because of the patients'
testimony and your own knowledge, that this treatment-resistant depression for
which we have no other available effective treatments at the moment, is highly
lethal and during the time it will take to do another randomized control trial,
we'll lose another 1,000 a patients a month, 36,000 if it takes three
years. There's a desperate need out
there for this treatment, and I understand that if you look at it and you look
at the pathognomic evidence of efficacy as well as the randomized trial
evidence, that I think you would persuaded to ‑‑ safety having been
established ‑‑ to approve this device at this time. Thank you.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Thank you. Ms. Scudiero will now three possible panel
recommendation options for pre-market approval applications.
DR.
MALONE: The biggest threat of
regulation that has all these different standards of evidence or something, I
can't imagine that you can just pick whichever one you want but that you would
be trying to pick the level of evidence that was appropriate to the device; is
that right?
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: I'll ask Dr. Witten to comment
on that.
DR.
WITTEN: Yes. That's what I was going to say.
Those all are acceptable forms of evidence for us, all the ones that he
listed. And then for each specific
case, as in this case, we're asking the panel to evaluate whether based on what
they provided, whether reasonable assurance of safety and effectiveness has
been provided. But that means that
everything could be accepted if it provides reasonable assurance of safety and
effectiveness.
DR.
MALONE: But each sort of device could
demand a different level; is that true?
DR.
WITTEN: Yes. I mean, in part, that's part of why we're here is we're asking
for your recommendations on this data set for this device.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Ms. Scudiero?
MS.
SCUDIERO: Okay. These are on the back of the meeting
handouts, the fourth page. The medical
device amendments to the Federal Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act, as defined by the
Safe Medical Devices Act of 1990, allows the Food and Drug Administration to
obtain a recommendation from an expert advisory panel on designated medical
device pre-market approval applications, PMAs, that are filed with the
agency. The PMA must stand on its own
merits, and your recommendation must be supported by the safety and
effectiveness data in the application or by the applicable publicly available
information.
Safety
is defined in the Act as reasonable assurance based on valid scientific
evidence that the probable benefits to health under the conditions of intended
use outweigh any probable risks.
Effectiveness is defined as reasonable assurance that in a significant
portion of the population the use of the device for its intended uses and
conditions of use when labeled will provide clinically significant results.
Your
recommendation for the vote are as follows:
One, approvable if there are no conditions attached; two, approvable
with conditions. The panel may
recommend that the PMA be found approvable subject to specified conditions such
as physician or patient labeling education, labeling changes or further
analysis of existing data. Prior to
voting, all the conditions of approval should be discussed by the panel. Three, not approvable. The panel might recommend that the PMA is
not approvable if the data do not provide reasonable assurance that the device
is safe or if a reasonable assurance has not been given that the device is effective
under the conditions of use prescribed, recommended or suggested in the
proposed labeling.
Following
the voting, the Chair will ask each panel member to present a brief statement
outlining the reason for his or her vote.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Is there a motion from the
panel? Dr. Wang?
DR.
WANG: Approvable with conditions.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Is there a second for the
motion?
PARTICIPANT: Second.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: I hear a second. So at this point, I guess I will entertain
an amendment to the main motion for the first condition of approvability. Is there a motion for a condition of
approvability?
DR.
WANG: Yes. The condition, I wonder if it wouldn't be helpful to have a
condition for both scientific and also public health reasons that there be a
failure of more than two or more trials, to maybe something like four or five,
and here's my reasoning. The scientific
reason is I think we may be going beyond the generalized ability of the
data. You showed us data suggesting
that these people have ‑‑ they had nearly four, on average, fail
trials just in this episode, and on average I think it was 12 or so failed
trials. So to extend these results to a
population that may have only failed two trials may be going beyond the limits
of this data.
The
second is a public health reason, and that is given the, let's say, less than
robust data right now on efficacy, I think there's a concern, public health
concern, which I alluded to earlier, that patients who have only failed two
trials, and you can get there pretty fast, you just have to fail two medication
trials in the span of a few weeks and you'd be eligible for this, you might
forego modalities which have a much stronger evidence for them. And by that I mean ECT, lithium augmentation,
maybe dual modalities, psychotherapy, plus medications that haven't been tried.
So
I think if you raise the bar to four or more failed trials or five or more
failed trials, something like that, you at least would ensure that patients
have had a chance to go through some of the modalities that have stronger
evidence bases than I think currently exist for VNS.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: So, Dr. Wang, would I be
correct in saying that your motion would be that patients need to fail at least
four trials of approved medical therapy?
DR.
WANG: I would take guidance here from
sort of the other ‑‑ the clinicians in the room how many sort of
modalities do we think have at least as much evidence suggesting their
efficacy. My guess is four or five,
something like that.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Is there anybody who seconds
that motion?
DR.
FOCHTMANN: I would second that motion.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Do you want to add on a little
bit?
DR.
JAYAM-TROUTH: Can I kind of add on a
little bit.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Sure.
DR.
JAYAM-TROUTH: Thank you. I think at this point that indication
statement where you have indicated in your write-up that VNS therapy indicated
for use as an adjunctive long-term treatment of chronic or recurrent depression
for patients over the age of 18 who are experiencing a major depressive episode
but has not had an adequate response to two or more adequate antidepressant
treatments needs to be definitely modified.
I agree with Dr. Wang, and I also think that it should be for
treatment-resistant depression that should be considered.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Would anybody like to discuss
this motion for approval ‑‑ this condition of approval, I
mean? No further comments? So if that's the case, then I guess we're
ready to vote on the first condition of approval. We'll do each one individually, so we'll go on the first one.
All
in favor of the first condition of approval, which is that patients must fail
at least four or more trials or somewhere thereabouts of medical therapy prior
to implantation with a VNS, please raise their hand.
So Dr. Jayam-Trouth, Dr. Fochtmann, Dr.
Jensen, Dr. Wang, so that's four.
All
opposed to the first condition of approval, please raise your hands. Dr. Ortiz.
And
all abstaining from voting on this condition of approval. Dr. Ellenberg and Dr. Malone.
DR.
MALONE: I wouldn't vote for approval,
so I don't know how to vote on this condition.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: So you're abstaining then.
Does
anybody have a second condition that they would like to move for approval?
DR.
JENSEN: I have a couple, actually. The first has to do with MD education once
the device is approved and anybody can use it, and it's not going to be in the
20 centers where the best of the best are doing procedures. So I think we have to look at the lowest
common denominator. I think surgeons
should be identified by the number of nectosections they do a year, and there
should be a minimum number of nectosections they do a year to show that they
are actually capable of implanting the device.
I
think there needs to be identification of the psychiatrists and their ability
to show appropriate use of the device in patients, not just in the lab and ‑‑
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: We need to go one by one.
DR.
JENSEN: One by one. Okay.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Does anybody ‑‑
would anybody like to second Dr. Jensen's condition 2 that the surgeons need to
be identified for the number of nectosections they do and their ability to
perform those nectosections? A second
for that motion?
DR.
FOCHTMANN: Second.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: So we have a second from Dr.
Fochtmann. So at this point, we need to
vote on that second condition. All in ‑‑
or any discussion before we move on this motion? Anybody want to ‑‑
DR.
JAYAM-TROUTH: Yes. I have a point, and that is that many people
will be starting new and fresh, and you can't tell them, "How many have
you done," when they've none at all.
I think there should be teaching for them so that they are familiar with
it and they can do it. But then to
stipulate that you have to have ten when they have to start, I think it's not
feasible.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: I guess I would say that most
vascular surgeons or neurovascular surgeons will have done nectosections, so
that shouldn't be an issue. Putting the
leads on may be new for them and that's probably not as big a concern, but I
think the surgeons should at least know how to get into the neck safely, into
the carotid sheath safely.
All
right. So let's take a vote for the
second condition of approval, which is that the surgeons need to be identified
for their ability to operate in the carotid sheath.
All
in favor of the second condition of approval raise your hands. And that would be Dr. Ortiz, Dr. Jensen, Dr.
Wang, Dr. Fochtmann and Dr. Jayam-Trouth.
All
against this condition of approval? All
opposed?
And
all abstaining? That would be Dr.
Malone ‑‑ and Dr. Ellenberg, sorry.
Any
motions for a third condition for approval?
Dr. Jensen?
DR.
JENSEN: Again, in terms of MD
education, I similarly like to see the psychiatrists identified as their
ability to show appropriate use of the device in patients, not just necessarily
in the lab, but they should be required to take a course and then have their
first three, four patients checked in some manner to make sure the programming
is appropriate.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: So Dr. Jensen would like
psychiatric training for programming the VNS device. Anybody second that motion?
DR.
JAYAM-TROUTH: Second.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Dr. Jayam-Trouth. So anybody like to discuss that point that
psychiatric education should be included in the condition for approval?
DR.
ORTIZ: I wonder if it should be
expanded, because it's not necessarily just psychiatrists who might program
that. I mean we may be talking about
behavioral neurologists or other people, so it's more of an engineering kind of
thing.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: So essentially any of the
clinicians who will be taking care of these patients and need to have training
prior to being able to have a patient implanted.
DR.
FOCHTMANN: Would this be ‑‑
would you perceive this as requiring as some sort of specific certification or
just showing that you've gone to a continuing education course?
DR.
JENSEN: Well, I think that, clearly,
you have to go to a course that should be run by the company on how to use the
device, but for me the issue always comes down to when you're doing it in the
lab by yourself for the first time, did
you do it right? And so I think there
needs to be a mechanism to make sure that you've said you've set this thing to
a certain standard and that's correct.
Now,
I don't use the device, maybe it's very simple and all it would take is
somebody from the company coming behind and saying, "Check," or
somebody else who already uses the device in the hospital checking or whatever,
but I just want to make sure that when people are getting an implantable
device, that it's being programmed correctly, and that that's somehow
documented.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Okay. So I think it's time to vote on this condition for approval,
which is that the clinicians who are caring for these patients who have devices
implantable need to show some sort of documentation that they are able to
understand how to program and change the parameters of simulation on the
device.
All
in favor of this motion raise their hands.
So Dr. Ortiz, Dr. Jensen, Dr. Wang, Dr. Fochtmann and Dr. Jayam-Trouth.
All
opposed to this condition for approval raise your hand?
And
everyone abstaining from this vote. Dr.
Ellenberg and Dr. Malone.
Are
there motions for any other conditions for approval? Dr. Jensen?
DR.
JENSEN: For patient education, I think
that it needs to be clearly stated, and the patients know that the device
implant may affect their ability to have diagnostic or therapeutic procedures
in the future and that they do have the option of having the device removed if
need be, if they are a non-responder or whatever and they want to have it out
and that they receive some sort of identification bracelet, card, et cetera,
that identifies them as having this implant and what the implications are for
MR use or other sorts of imaging surgeries.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: So it sounds like this
condition for approval has to do, in part, with labeling, and, obviously, as
part of, I think, any delivery of medical care, we'd want to inform our
patients completely of the risks and benefits involved in having the device
implanted, which include the risks of having a limited ability to obtain
diagnostic radiographic tests, and so that needs to be very clearly spelled out
to the patients and perhaps have some sort of identification that they carry
with them like someone who has a pacemaker and carry an identification with
them.
Is
there anybody who seconds this motion?
DR.
JAYAM-TROUTH: Second.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: There's a second. So everybody in favor of condition 4, which
is patient education and some sort of identification for the patients that they
have this VNS device implanted, please raise your hands. I'm sorry, before we raise our hands,
discussion points, I'm sorry. Seems
pretty straightforward. Anybody want to
discuss that point? No?
All
right. So now everybody in favor of
Condition 4 raise your hands. Again, it
seems like our usual group: Dr. Jensen,
Dr. Wang, Dr. Fochtmann and Dr. Jayam-Trough and Dr. Ortiz. Did I see your hand there or not?
DR.
ORTIZ: Yes, you saw it.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Okay. All opposed to this condition for approval raise your hands.
And
all abstaining from voting? Dr. Malone
and Dr. Ellenberg.
Any
motions for further conditions for approval?
We've exhausted you, Dr. Jensen?
DR.
JENSEN: Well, I do have one question
about the registry. Can we ask that
certain data be culled from the registry?
They're planning on having a registry, but one of the things that I
would like to see is that the parameters that are looked at in the registry are
evaluated for patients who are non-responders looking for particular group
types that are non-responders, and if we find one, that this is a group of
patients who do not respond to this device, unequivocally, that that could then
end up being a contraindication for use.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: So let me ask, actually, Dr.
Witten, is that something that we can request that the sponsor do to collect
certain data in the post-marketing registry to the FDA?
DR.
WITTEN: Yes, especially given that Dr.
Jensen has stated a specific purpose for this.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: So with that motion for
identifying specific clinical data be collected in the patient registry, is
there anybody who'd like to second that motion?
DR.
JAYAM-TROUTH: Second.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Dr. Jayam-Trouth seconds that
motion. And anybody want to discuss
this point any further?
DR.
FOCHTMANN: I'd like to discuss
this. I think that it's a reasonable
idea to collect the data. I am a little
bit concerned about identifying specific subgroups of individuals who would be
then designated as being contraindicated to receive this device, because I
think, as has already been quite well described, this is a treatment that
people go to when they really don't have other viable options, and I don't
think that any statistical analysis that shows that one subgroup was less
likely to respond is going to be an absolutist sort of subgroup, and so I would
be very concerned on the basis of subsequent analysis thereby denying a
potentially effective treatment to individuals in need.
DR.
JENSEN: Yes. I guess I should have clarified when you asked the question about
what FDA is allowed. If we got
information that showed that there were certain prognostic factors which gave
you a better idea of when a patient would respond, that would typically be used
in a labeling update. Typically,
contraindications are when there is a safety problem that's been identified
with the device. So I was just
responding to the question about whether you could ask for this data in the
registry, not about the other part of the recommendation, about
contraindication.
DR.
FOCHTMANN: I would just like that
information in the labeling.
DR.
JENSEN: Right.
DR.
JAYAM-TROUTH: One other thing: Would it interfere with the HIPAA and all
that, the regulations, with the demographic, et cetera, that we collected and
put out there in the registry, anybody could get access to it? Wouldn't that come in the way of patient
confidentiality?
DR.
WITTEN: If the Sponsor's planning a
registry, then I'm assuming that they've looked at how they were going to do
that in such a way that wouldn't be in contradistinction to what they're
required to do under HIPAA.
DR.
FOCHTMANN: Would that same issue of
HIPAA also apply to manufacture or checking device parameters and operation,
that they would check on that as well?
I'm not used to a situation where manufacturers are watching me or in
the room with me when I'm taking care of patients.
DR.
WITTEN: Let me say, I'm not an expert
on HIPAA, but a lot of it would depend on how it was done and what the patient
was informed of, I think. But what
we're looking for from you, the Panel, is your recommendations about the kinds
of ‑‑ if you're recommending things in a registry or further
information to be collected, we're looking to you for recommendations about the
kinds of information you'd be interested in and how you would see this
information being used to further public health and not the specifics of
exactly how something would get done.
That's something we would discuss later if we decided to implement those
conditions. That's the kind of thing we
would discuss specifics with the sponsor.
So I don't think you need to be concerned about those questions. We'd like to hear what it is you think is
needed or you'd like to recommend.
DR.
JAYAM-TROUTH: Can I kind of voice
another concern? I don't know if it's a
recommendation but my concern is that this is still only a short time for this
device. We're talking about just a few
years, and I'm not sure down the road maybe some of the side effects will
come. Can we stipulate now that at the
moment that if some extra side effects are seen or something else happens, that
it's brought to the attention of the FDA or is that normal?
DR.
WITTEN: There is a process by which
sponsors are required to report to us on a periodic basis and report to the MDR
system also new safety information about the device. That doesn't need its own condition, unless there's some specific
thing you're asking us to look for.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Dr. Witten, would you like the
Panel now to make some recommendations about the data to be collected or is
this something that could be worked out after the meeting between the FDA and
the Sponsor?
DR.
WITTEN: Well, so far what I've heard is
a registry to try to identify prognostic factors to determine who might best
benefit from this device. Is that
right?
DR.
JENSEN: Correct.
DR.
WITTEN: Okay. And so if you have any ‑‑ it's up to the Panel. The Panel can either stop there or if the
Panel has any specific suggestions about the kind of data that they think would
be useful to collect in an effort these prognostic factors, that would be
useful too. So it depends on whether
you want to add anything to that.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Does anybody on the Panel have
any thoughts about what other pieces of information should be collected of what
else we should look for in collecting information for the registry? What pieces of information do we want to get
out of it, what do we want to learn?
DR.
FOCHTMANN: I would think, obviously,
information about the stimulus settings and not just including pulse widths and
the other aspects of the stimulus parameters, information, obviously, about
efficacy in terms of patient perceptions and in terms of clinician perceptions,
obviously information about safety, adverse effects. Those would be the key elements in addition to the other patient
characteristics, concomitant medications, things like that.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Any other thoughts or
discussion?
DR.
ORTIZ: I guess I would want to follow
what you were suggesting. It seems
like, at least from the Pharmacology Committee, that a lot of that is better
worked out between the FDA and the Sponsor directly.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: So with that, I think it's the
recommendation of the Panel that the pre-market approval application, P970003 ‑‑
there's more conditions? I'm
sorry. So I think there is a motion for
another condition.
DR.
JENSEN: Well, have you voted on the
registry?
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: I think we voted on it before
we talked about the specific information to be collected.
DR.
FOCHTMANN: The motions that I had
related to specific aspects of the wording on the labeling claim. Is that something that is appropriate to
comment on?
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Sure.
DR.
FOCHTMANN: The first comment that I
would have is that on Points 2, 3 and 4, I think it should specifically state
12-month open label follow-up of the randomized control trial so that it
doesn't give the impression that there was a 12-month randomized control trial
to the person who is not totally familiar with these studies.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Is there a second to the motion
in changing that labeling information?
DR.
WANG: Second.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Dr. Wang seconds it. Any discussion on that point?
Everybody
in favor of changing the labeling to reflect the fact that it was not a
12-month randomized control trial raise their hands. Dr. Ortiz, Dr. Jensen, Dr. Wang, Dr. Fochtmann and Dr.
Jayam-Trouth.
Everybody
opposed to that motion raise their hands.
And
everybody abstaining? Drs. Malone and
Ellenberg. Thank you.
DR.
FOCHTMANN: The second wording issue
that I would have would be in Point 4.
Since there was a degree of variability in the results of the trials
depending on what outcome measure was used, I think that the phrase,
"highly statistical significant p less than 0.0001," should be
changed to, "showed a significant," and there's a word missing there,
"effect for treatment."
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: So the motion is to change the
wording from, "highly statistically significant effect," to just,
"a significant effect." Is
there a second for that motion?
DR.
FOCHTMANN: And to delete the, "p
less than 0.0001."
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: And delete the p value. A second for that motion?
DR.
WANG: Second.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Dr. wang. Any discussion on that motion?
Everybody
in favor of changing that labeling information raise their hands. Dr. Ortiz, Dr. Jensen, Dr. Wang. Dr.
Fochtmann, Dr. Jayam-Trouth.
Everybody
opposed?
Everybody
abstaining? Drs. Malone and Ellenberg.
DR.
FOCHTMANN: The next wording point that
I would have is in Point Number 6 where is says, "VNS therapy should be
considered." I would like to
suggest that that be changed to, "VNS therapy may be considered,"
since I don't believe that it's fair to say that any treatment absolutely has
to be considered for every patient.
DR.
JAYAM-TROUTH: Second.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Second. Thank you.
Any discussion on that point?
Everybody
in favor of changing the labeling to, "VNS therapy may be
considered," as opposed to, "should be considered," raise their
hands. Dr. Ortiz, Dr. Jensen, Dr. Wang,
Dr. Fochtmann, Dr. Jayam-Trouth.
Everybody
opposed?
And
everybody abstaining? Drs. Ellenberg
and Malone. Thank you.
DR.
FOCHTMANN: And my final suggested
amendment is Point 12, which states, "Brain imaging studies have
demonstrated that VNS modulates blood flow and/or metabolism in many areas of
the brain that are affected to mood disorders." I would suggest that the data that's presented, although very
interesting, is in small groups of individuals and would be considered, I believe,
to be most people to be preliminary data, and I would suggest that this point
be deleted entirely.
DR.
JAYAM-TROUTH: Second.
CHAIRPERSON
BECKER: Thank you. And is there any discussion on this point?
Everybody
in favor of deleting information on blood flow changes with VNS stimulation may
I see your hands? Dr. Ortiz, Dr.
Jensen, Dr. Wang, Dr. Fochtmann and Dr. Jayam-Trouth.
Everybody
opposed to deletion of this point?
And
everybody abstaining? Dr. Malone, Dr.
Ellenberg.