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                DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES

 

                      FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION

 

              CENTER FOR BIOLOGICS EVALUATION AND RESEARCH

 

            BIOLOGICAL RESPONSE MODIFIERS ADVISORY COMMITTEE

 

                              OPEN SESSION

 

                              Meeting #32

 

 

 

                         Thursday, May 9, 2002

 

                               8:00 a.m.

 

 

                              Hilton Hotel

                         Gaithersburg, Maryland

 

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                        P A R T I C I P A N T S

 

      Daniel R. Salomon, M.D., Acting Chair

      Gail Dapolito, Executive Secretary

      Rosanna L. Harvey, Committee Management Specialist

 

      Members:

 

      Bruce R. Blazar, M.D., Industry Representative

      Katherine A. High, M.D.

      Richard C. Mulligan, Ph.D.

      Alice H. Wolfson, J.D., Consumer Representative

      Alison F. Lawton, Consumer Representative

      Mahendra S. Rao, M.D., Ph.D.

 

      Temporary Voting Members:

 

      Lori P. Knowles, L.L.B., B.C.L., M.A., LL.M.

      Thomas F. Murray, Ph.D.

      Robert K. Naviaux, M.D., Ph.D.

      Eric A. Shoubridge, Ph.D.

      Jonathan Van Blerkom, Ph.D.

      Edward A. Sausville, M.D., Ph.D.

      Eric A. Schon, Ph.D.

 

      Guests and Guest Speakers:

 

      Robert Casper, M.D., Ph.D.

      Susan Lanzendorf, Ph.D., H.C.L.D.

      Marina O'Reilly, Ph.D.

      Jacques Cohen, Ph.D.

      Amy Patterson, M.D.

      Stephen M. Rose, Ph.D.

 

      FDA Participants:

 

      Jesse Goodman, M.D.

      Philip Noguchi, M.D.

      Scott Monroe, M.D.

      Mercedes Serabian, M.D.

      Jay B. Siegel, M.D.

      Deborah Hursh, Ph.D.

      Malcolm Moos, M.D.

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                            C O N T E N T S

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      Session I:

      Update Research Program:

      Laboratory of Gene Regulation, Amy Rosenberg, M.D.         5

 

      Laboratory of Immunobiology, Ezio Bonvini, Ph.D.          15

 

      Session III:

 

      Welcome and Administrative Remarks,

                Daniel Salomon, M.D.                            28

 

      Presentation of Certificate of Appreciation to

         Dr. Edward Sausville, Jay P. Siegel, M.D.              34

 

      Ooplasm Transfer in Assisted Reproduction:

 

      FDA Introduction

                Deborah Hursh, Ph.D.                            41

 

      Cytoplasmic Transfer in the Human

                Susan Lanzendorf, Ph.D.                         48

 

      Question and Answer                                       61

 

      Ooplasm Transfer

                Jacques Cohen, Ph.D.                           100

 

      Question and Answer                                      136

 

      Transmission and Segregation of mitochondria DNA

                Eric Shoubridge, Ph.D.                         167

 

      Mitochondrial Function and Inheritance Patterns

        in Early Human Embryos

                Jonathan Van Blerkom, Ph.D.                    199

 

      Question and Answer                                      224

 

      Ethical Issues in Human Ooplasm Transfer

        Experimentation

                Lori Plasma Knowles, LL.B.                     257

 

      Open Public Hearing:

                Jamie Grifo, M.D., American Society

                  for Reproductive Medicine                    278

                Pamela Madsen, American Infertility

                  Association                                  283

      Questions to the Committee                               287

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  1                      P R O C E E D I N G S

 

  2             DR. SALOMON:  Welcome this morning to the

 

  3   Biological Response Modifiers Advisory Committee.

 

  4   I have been complaining about the lack of titles

 

  5   but at least they had numbers but ow they don't

 

  6   even have a number here.  Oh yes, we do, meeting

 

  7   number 32.  Eventually they will get the idea and

 

  8   give me titles.

 

  9             I am Dan Salomon.  I have the pleasure of

 

 10   chairing the committee today.  What we are going to

 

 11   do this morning is have about a one-hour open

 

 12   session here that I guess merges into a closed

 

 13   session at 8:45.  Then, there will be a break at

 

 14   9:00 and at 9:00 we will get into the main topic of

 

 15   the morning.  So, a lot of things like introducing

 

 16   the members of the committee I will save for nine

 

 17   o'clock if you guys will forgive the lack of pomp

 

 18   and circumstance this early in the morning.  I also

 

 19   reserve the right to say something totally stupid

 

 20   for the next hour since I am from California and it

 

 21   is awfully early for me right now.

 

 22             Without any further ado, we should get

 

 23   going.  It is Amy getting up there, Amy Rosenberg

 

 24   from the Laboratory of Gene Regulation, to give us

 

 25   an update on research programs, and that will be

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  1   followed by Ezio Bonvini, from the Laboratory of

 

  2   Immunobiology.

 

  3                     Update Research Program

 

  4                  Laboratory of Gene Regulation

 

  5             DR. ROSENBERG:  I am actually the Director

 

  6   of the Division of Therapeutic Proteins, and I am

 

  7   here to speak for Ed Max and Serge Beaucage, who

 

  8   are members of the Laboratory of Gene Regulation

 

  9   who, unfortunately, could not be here today.

 

 10             This is a follow-up to the site visit and

 

 11   I will run through the follow-up for Dr. Max first.

 

 12   Dr. Max works with three research scientists, as

 

 13   you can see here.  The non-research

 

 14   responsibilities of a laboratory include primary

 

 15   review responsibility for several cytokines and

 

 16   thrombolytics and anticoagulants.  They

 

 17   additionally provide expert consultation on issues

 

 18   of molecular biology, particularly quantitative PCR

 

 19   assays and immunoglobulin genes.  In addition, Dr.

 

 20   Max performs a lot of administrative functions.  He

 

 21   is the associate director for research in OTRR and,

 

 22   as well, he organizes semina series; he chairs the

 

 23   research coordinating committee; and he manages the

 

 24   CBER library.

 

 25             The projects that are ongoing in his

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  1   laboratory, two were primarily dealt with in the

 

  2   site visit, mechanisms of immunoglobulin isotype

 

  3   switching and characterization of the human 3'

 

  4   immunoglobulin heavy chain enhancer complex.

 

  5             The mission relevance of the research is

 

  6   listed here.  Regarding gene regulation, FDA

 

  7   regulates strategies to alter gene expression.

 

  8   Basically, we have a lot of products being produced

 

  9   by knock-in technology.  Insulators are now

 

 10   becoming increasingly important in transgenic

 

 11   animals. Regarding isotype switching, there is a

 

 12   little more activity, in fact.  There are specific

 

 13   strategies to have TH2 to TH1 switches.  So,

 

 14   increasing IgG, decreasing IgE to protect against

 

 15   allergic type reactions.  Additionally, our

 

 16   division regulates several agents that are known to

 

 17   directly affect isotype switching, cytokines IL4,

 

 18   TGF-beta and CD40 ligand.  As we all fervently

 

 19   believe, good basic science enables appropriate

 

 20   regulation.

 

 21             Dealing with the first project, mechanisms

 

 22   of immunoglobulin isotype switching, this is just

 

 23   to remind you that isotype switching involves a

 

 24   switch recombination event which juxtaposes VDJ

 

 25   segments with downstream constant regions of

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  1   different isotype genes.

 

  2             The first aspect of this project involves

 

  3   a study of the Ku protein complex, how does this

 

  4   participate in immunoglobulin gene recombination?

 

  5   Ku protein has been found to be key in sealing

 

  6   double-stranded DNA breaks, and it is found that

 

  7   during isotype switching this protein increases in

 

  8   B cells and that knockout mice that are deficient

 

  9   for Ku seal DNA breaks inappropriately.  Since the

 

 10   site visit, this laboratory has cloned additional

 

 11   breakpoints in tumors from Ku knockouts that they

 

 12   are trying to characterize to clarify the role of

 

 13   Ku in sealing these double-stranded breaks.

 

 14             The second aspect of this project involves

 

 15   characterization or identification of the role of

 

 16   the ATM proteins in switch recombination.  This is

 

 17   a collaboration with Dr. Hodes at NCI.  They found

 

 18   that the ATM knockout mice show a defect in isotype

 

 19   switch recombination intrinsic to B cells, and

 

 20   since the site visit they have basically adapted

 

 21   their assay to become really a quantitative assay

 

 22   so that they can more accurately measure the degree

 

 23   of switch recombination.

 

 24             Regarding the second project, which is the

 

 25   characterization of the human 3' IgH enhancer

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  1   complex, there are many aspects that they are

 

  2   investigating, one, the genomic neighborhood.  That

 

  3   aspect has been completed.  The human IgH 3'

 

  4   enhancer complex in humans resulting from a

 

  5   duplication event that causes large segments to be

 

  6   duplicated so that downstream of C-alpha 1 and

 

  7   C-alpha 2 constant regions the laboratory

 

  8   characterized these nearly identical enhancer

 

  9   complexes, each composed of a strong enhancer

 

 10   designated HS12, which are flanked by two weaker

 

 11   enhancers, HS3 and HS4.  Both HS12 enhancers are

 

 12   flanked by inverted repeats.

 

 13             So, they went on to study the functional

 

 14   motifs in HS12 and other 3' enhancers.  The have

 

 15   identified functional motifs in the enhancers by

 

 16   sequence conservation between the human enhancers

 

 17   and the murine homologs.  They have performed in

 

 18   vivo footprinting using LM-PCR, and they have

 

 19   performed transient transfections with luciferase

 

 20   reporter constructs that are driven by enhancers

 

 21   mutated in putative functional motifs.

 

 22             Regarding this aspect, since the site

 

 23   visit the laboratory has used DNA swan protection

 

 24   as an alternative technique for in vivo

 

 25   footprinting.  They have extended the footprinting

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  1   analysis outside the evolutionary conserved cores

 

  2   of the HS12 and HS4 areas, and they have

 

  3   constructed and tested additional reporter plasmid

 

  4   containing DNA outside the core enhancers.

 

  5             With regard to the response of this

 

  6   enhancer complex to IL4 and CD40 ligand, it is

 

  7   found that these are factors, which are TH2

 

  8   stimuli, actually inhibited the action of the HS12

 

  9   enhancer in the germinal center B cell lines.

 

 10   Other enhancers, an endogenous one here, were

 

 11   unaffected.  Since the site visit they have

 

 12   investigated candidate IL4 or CD40 responsive

 

 13   elements in the HS12 enhancer by constructing

 

 14   reporter plasmid driven by multimerized candidate

 

 15   enhancer motifs.

 

 16             Regarding the last project, looking at

 

 17   locus control region function in chromatin, they

 

 18   found that there is a CPG island within a cluster

 

 19   of DNA swan hypersensitivity sites that showed the

 

 20   activity of gene insulators.  So, the level of

 

 21   transcription in the normal situation is here.  If

 

 22   you have gene insulators it cuts down dramatically,

 

 23   and these CPG islands as well cut down dramatically

 

 24   on transcription.  So, since the site visit they

 

 25   have constructed additional plasmid to define the

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  1   active insulator element.  They are also searching

 

  2   for a possible homologous insulator downstream of

 

  3   the murine enhancers.

 

  4             Additional studies in progress involve

 

  5   chromatin immunoprecipitation studies to identify

 

  6   transcription factors found to be enhancers in

 

  7   vivo, and they are using single cell assays for the

 

  8   3' enhancer function using stable transfectants of

 

  9   GFP constructs.  That is the follow-up on the Max

 

 10   lab.

 

 11             DR. SALOMON:  Thank you, Amy.  I feel bad

 

 12   for Alice since she is an attorney and she came in

 

 13   a little late, she is going to have trouble with

 

 14   the test questions on enhancer.

 

 15             [Laughter]

 

 16             We will try and help you through it.  The

 

 17   next is from the representing the laboratory of

 

 18   immunobiology.

 

 19             DR. ROSENBERG:  No, I have to give

 

 20   follow-up on Dr. Beaucage.  I am sorry.  So, the

 

 21   laboratory of Dr. Beaucage, he works with five

 

 22   postdoctoral fellows.  His regulatory

 

 23   responsibilities include primary review of

 

 24   hematologic products, enzyme replacement therapies,

 

 25   anti-cancer enzymes and thrombolytics.  He provides

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  1   expert consultation on all of the nucleotide

 

  2   diagnostic kits with the Center's Office of Blood.

 

  3   He has large responsibility for helping to draft

 

  4   the guidance for industry on submission of CMC

 

  5   information for synthetic oligonucleotides.  He has

 

  6   also performed some inspections regarding

 

  7   hematologic products and thrombolytics.

 

  8             Overview of his program--as you know, he

 

  9   is an oligonucleotide chemist, and he is

 

 10   responsible in large part for development of the

 

 11   phosphoramidite method so he has three major

 

 12   efforts.  The first is effects in development of

 

 13   deoxyribonucleotide cyclic anacylphosphoramidetes

 

 14   and stereo-controlled synthesis of oligonucleotide

 

 15   phosphorofioates for potential therapeutic

 

 16   applications.

 

 17             Essentially, since the site visit the

 

 18   group has optimized the coupling efficiency of

 

 19   deoxynucleoside cyclic anacylphosphoramidites to

 

 20   enable synthesis of nuclease-resistant P

 

 21   stereo-defined oligonucleotides containing all four

 

 22   nucleotides.  They found that pryrrolidin and DBU

 

 23   are the preferred bases for efficient coupling of

 

 24   deoxyribonucleotide acylphosphoramidites

 

 25   uncontrolled for GLAS, which is important for

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  1   potential applications for microarray.  They

 

  2   published a paper in the Journal of the American

 

  3   Chemical Society, describing the development of a

 

  4   simple NMR method to determine the absolute

 

  5   configuration of deoxyribonucleotide

 

  6   phosphoramidites at phosphorus, and the findings,

 

  7   again, have appeared in the Journal.  They are also

 

  8   working to improve the resistance of CPG

 

  9   oligonucleotides to nuclease activities by using

 

 10   P-stereo defined oligos.

 

 11             The second effort involves efforts towards

 

 12   the discovery of phosphodiester protecting groups

 

 13   for potential applications to large-scale

 

 14   production of alphalation free therapeutic

 

 15   oligonucleotides and to the synthesis of

 

 16   oligonucleotides on microarrays.  They found that

 

 17   the 3-NN-dimethyl carboxymedopropryl group--this

 

 18   group right here, is a novel phosphate

 

 19   thiophosphate protecting group for solid phase

 

 20   synthesis that has recently been developed.  The

 

 21   monomers which are required are easily prepared

 

 22   from inexpensive raw materials.  The protecting

 

 23   group can be removed from the oligonucleotides

 

 24   under the basic conditions that are used

 

 25   standardly, and, thus, it is actually a very

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  1   convenient protecting group.  But, most

 

  2   importantly, the thermolytic properties of the

 

  3   protecting group are particularly attractive to the

 

  4   synthesis of DNA oligonucleotides on microarrays

 

  5   because it minimizes exposure of the arrays to the

 

  6   harsh nucleophilic conditions used for

 

  7   oligonucleotide protection.  So, these conditions

 

  8   are actually quite mild and favorable.

 

  9             The third effort is involved in the

 

 10   development of thermophilic 5'hydoxyl protecting

 

 11   groups for nucleoside or nucleotides for synthesis

 

 12   of, again, DNA oligos on microarrays.  The

 

 13   thermolytic phosphate protecting groups described

 

 14   in the site visit report have been applied to the

 

 15   protecting group in the 5'hydroxyl of nucleosides

 

 16   as carbonates, but this was found to be quite

 

 17   impractical.  Recently the laboratory has

 

 18   discovered that the 5'O and methyl, 1 phenylmethyl

 

 19   oxycarbinol protecting group can be thermolytically

 

 20   cleaved from nucleosides in aqueous ethanol within

 

 21   10 minutes at 90 degrees.  Here is the loss of this

 

 22   protecting group.

 

 23             Interestingly enough, this forms a

 

 24   fluorescent byproduct and it permits the accurate

 

 25   determination of the D-protection deficiency.  The

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  1   protecting group appears to be stable in organic

 

  2   solvents at ambient temperature, which also again

 

  3   makes it increasingly attractive to the synthesis

 

  4   of oligonucleotides on microarrays.  That is the

 

  5   follow-up for the Beaucage lab.

 

  6             DR. SALOMON:  I think someone should get

 

  7   the message back to them that you have represented

 

  8   them really remarkably well.  That was a beautiful

 

  9   presentation of not your own laboratory efforts.  I

 

 10   think anybody who didn't know that would have had a

 

 11   clue that this wasn't your own work.

 

 12             DR. ROSENBERG:  That is because they

 

 13   didn't ask questions.

 

 14             [Laughter]

 

 15             Thank you very much, Dan, I do appreciate

 

 16   it.

 

 17             DR. SALOMON:  It is also a representation

 

 18   of the kind of quality work going on at the FDA.

 

 19   My only regret is there aren't enough people in the

 

 20   audience that should hear that kind of thing

 

 21   because that is something that we should have saved

 

 22   for the end of day when there are a lot of people

 

 23   here.  The next presentation is from Ezio Bonvini,

 

 24   the Laboratory of Immunobiology, Division of

 

 25   Monoclonal Antibodies.

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  1                   Laboratory of Immunobiology

 

  2             DR. BONVINI:  Thank you very much.  I

 

  3   would like to thank Dr. Salomon and the members of

 

  4   the advisory committee.

 

  5             My duty today is to summarize the work

 

  6   that we have done, and the focus of my laboratory

 

  7   is on the regulation of phospholipase C-gamma

 

  8   activation in immune cells.  The laboratory is

 

  9   operationally divided into two inter-related units,

 

 10   one focusing on the coupling of C-gamma-1 to the

 

 11   antigen receptor TMB cells.  The second, which is

 

 12   headed by Dr. Rellahan, looks at the control of

 

 13   phospholipase C activation, and in particular the

 

 14   control mediated by a complex molecule called

 

 15   C-Cbl.

 

 16             Recapitulating the functional division, we

 

 17   have two interacting units, one that I coordinate

 

 18   which is currently made up of a research assistant,

 

 19   Karen DeBell, and a postdoctoral fellow, Carmen

 

 20   Serrano.  I would also like to acknowledge past

 

 21   postdoctoral members of the laboratory that, in one

 

 22   way or another, have contributed to this project,

 

 23   and they have actually all left and found

 

 24   employment elsewhere.

 

 25             Dr. Rellahan has one permanent staff

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  1   member, Dr. Laurie Graham, a lab associate, and she

 

  2   also enjoys the benefit of a number of students who

 

  3   have actually contributed during the summer to her

 

  4   project.

 

  5             Now, we do what we do for a number of

 

  6   reasons.  The laboratory has the regulatory

 

  7   responsibility for monoclonal antibodies and

 

  8   protein directed against T-cells for the purpose of

 

  9   immune suppression or immunomodulation.  More and

 

 10   more so, these antibodies interact with surface

 

 11   receptors that interfere either in signalling

 

 12   blockade or signalling manipulation with the

 

 13   purpose of immunomodulation.  Furthermore, signal

 

 14   transvection targeting can be used as surrogate for

 

 15   potency of biologics.  A number of biologics and a

 

 16   number of monoclonal antibodies, also trigger a

 

 17   number of adverse events to undesired signaling.

 

 18   Another fundamental reason is the familiarity with

 

 19   the knowledge base and technology.

 

 20             The focus on PLC-gamma, PLC-gamma

 

 21   regulates calcium mobilization in a variety of

 

 22   cells, including immune cells, and I don't think I

 

 23   need to go any further for this audience but

 

 24   calcium is a critical component in control for

 

 25   transcriptional activation through a number of

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  1   elements, one of which is an important element,

 

  2   calcineurin phosphatase as a target for a number of

 

  3   drugs; the other path being calcium dependent

 

  4   proteinases.  The duration of the effects of the

 

  5   flux of calcium controls a number of cellular

 

  6   responses with a prolonged calcium flux being a

 

  7   requirement for immunocompetence.  As I said

 

  8   earlier, a number of calcium-dependent pathways are

 

  9   a target of immunosuppressive structures which

 

 10   include cyclosporin A, among others.

 

 11             Again, I don't think I can go through the

 

 12   data in detail, but what I would like to give you

 

 13   is a flavor for how complex PLC-gamma is.  This is

 

 14   the molecule which is a cytoplasmic molecule which

 

 15   contains a number of separate domains.  The

 

 16   molecules need to be recruited to the surface where

 

 17   the substrate where PTdinsP, a lipid, resides, and

 

 18   needs to undergo presumably a confirmation or

 

 19   modification to bridge together the X and Y domains

 

 20   of the catalytic subdomain.

 

 21             Our focus has been largely on the

 

 22   cytochromology 2 domain, which are individual

 

 23   domains which are known to interact with calcium

 

 24   and phosphorolytic protein and the cytochromology 3

 

 25   domains which are known to interact with the

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  1   protein rich region.  When we started these

 

  2   investigations, the mechanism of activation of

 

  3   PLC-gamma was largely unknown or misinterpreted, I

 

  4   should say, so we focused on this largely because

 

  5   by their own nature we thought they were

 

  6   responsible for targeting phospholipase C-gamma

 

  7   with a number of regulatory proteins.  So, we

 

  8   pursued this by mutational analysis of the enzyme,

 

  9   and recently we obviously focused on a number of

 

 10   other domains but I will not go into any of this.

 

 11             This enzyme is regulated by

 

 12   phosphorylation, and there are at least four known

 

 13   targets in phosphorylation, here in yellow, and

 

 14   that is also another focus of our investigation but

 

 15   we use studies of phosphorylation somewhat as a

 

 16   surrogate marker for activation.

 

 17             So, I will briefly summarize the results

 

 18   of our studies, which have all been published, and

 

 19   I will split them vertically into the different

 

 20   domains.  The cytochromology of amino-2 terminal

 

 21   domain is the most critical domain in the

 

 22   activation of PLC-gamma-1 in T and B cells.  This

 

 23   domain is required in sufficient phosphorylation.

 

 24   It is required for membrane translocation and this

 

 25   requirement, we think, is required for activation

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  1   because its activation correlates with the degree

 

  2   of phosphorylation.  What this domain does is bind

 

  3   a number of adapters which were recently

 

  4   discovered.  One is Lat which we identified in

 

  5   collaboration with Larry Samuelson.  The other is

 

  6   BLnk which we identified in collaboration with Tom

 

  7   Korozaky, who actually cloned it.  The

 

  8   cytochromology to the C domain appeared to be

 

  9   dispensable for phosphorylation of membrane

 

 10   translocation, although it is required for

 

 11   activation in vivo, and the function of this domain

 

 12   is largely unknown, but since the site visit report

 

 13   we have gained quite a number of insights and this

 

 14   is a very critical domain to investigate as it

 

 15   pertains to the ability of PLC-gamma to couple to a

 

 16   number of different pathways, including

 

 17   co-stimulatory pathways, and to a function of

 

 18   PLC-gamma that is independent of this catalytic

 

 19   activity.

 

 20             The cytochromology 3 domain appears to be

 

 21   dispensable phosphorylation, however, enhances

 

 22   membrane translocation, and I will provide a

 

 23   summary at the end of how it does that, and by

 

 24   virtue of its announcement of membrane

 

 25   translocation, enhanced activation of the enzyme in

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  1   vivo.  Its function, we have identified binding to

 

  2   the protocol gene C-Cbl and Art Wizer's group, one

 

  3   of the leaders in the field, has shown that the

 

  4   domain binds with Lp-76, another adaptive molecule.

 

  5             Of course, I don't have the time to go

 

  6   through all the details but I just want to

 

  7   summarize again some of the milestones that we have

 

  8   achieved since we started this project.  With

 

  9   respect to PLC coupling to the receptor, we

 

 10   reported initially that PLC-gamma-1 SS-2 domain was

 

 11   critical for coupling it to the T-cell receptor.

 

 12   Then, we explored the role of cytochromology domain

 

 13   of PLC-gamma coupling to the B cell receptor.

 

 14   Recently we have focused on the ability of membrane

 

 15   raft, which are a microdomain, to function at the

 

 16   microdomain that segregates PLC-gamma and other

 

 17   molecules for their regulators, and we have shown

 

 18   that recompartmentalization of PLC-gamma to this

 

 19   microdomain is, in itself, sufficient to lead to

 

 20   PLC-gamma activation, activation of the cells and

 

 21   IL-2 separation.

 

 22             With respect to the negative regulation of

 

 23   PLC-gamma, which is the focus of Dr. Rellahan's

 

 24   research, we have shown that C-Cbl inhibits

 

 25   TCR-induced 81 activation, a reporter gene whose

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  1   activation depends on raft and isoglycerol, and

 

  2   isoglycerol is under the control of PLC-gamma.

 

  3   PLC-gamma-1 binds C-Cbl in its HS-3 domain and

 

  4   C-Cbl exerts inhibitory function, however, it

 

  5   transforms a counterpart of C-Cbl-70Z-3 Cbl which

 

  6   lacks the ability of C-Cbl molecule to ubiquinate

 

  7   the target protein.  This molecule, 76-C-Cbl,

 

  8   activates PLC-gamma and does so through a

 

  9   differential pathway, a pathway which is not shared

 

 10   completely by the T cell receptors, suggesting the

 

 11   possibility of regulation of PLC-gamma through an

 

 12   alternate mechanism of activation.

 

 13             Rather than going through data, I would

 

 14   like to give you a model that will try to summarize

 

 15   our findings with those of other laboratories and

 

 16   put everything together.

 

 17             This is a schematic TCR receptor.  The TCR

 

 18   receptor interacts with the antigen it encounters

 

 19   of antigen presenting cells.  Now, in the membrane

 

 20   of many cells, including T cells, it is

 

 21   homogeneous.  Depicted here in red are rats which

 

 22   contain a number of different molecules, including

 

 23   the Lck which is brought together through the

 

 24   T-cell receptor by the action of the antigen into

 

 25   the raft.  The rafts contain an adaptor molecule,

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  1   called raft, which we have shown to interact with

 

  2   phospholipase C.  This occurs subsequent to

 

  3   phosphorylation of Lck of the CD3 molecules which

 

  4   are associated with the alpha and beta chain of the

 

  5   T cell receptor.  Following phosphorylation, a

 

  6   cytoplasmic kinase called Zap 70 is recruited, and

 

  7   it is the Zap 70 that phosphorylates these other

 

  8   transmembrane adapters into the rat.

 

  9             This is the signal that tells PLC-gamma,

 

 10   which is a cytoplasmic enzyme which is

 

 11   constitutively bound to the Lck-76 through the

 

 12   SSS-3 domain.  That is the signal to recruit

 

 13   PLC-gamma through the amino termini cytochromology

 

 14   to this adaptor.  This interaction is further

 

 15   stabilized by the presence of Gads, a second

 

 16   adaptor molecule, which interacts with Lck-76 and,

 

 17   in turn, interacts with the cytochromology-2

 

 18   domain.  That explains the contribution of the

 

 19   cytochromology-3 domain to stabilize the

 

 20   interaction of PLC-gamma to the membrane.

 

 21             PLC-gamma in the raft compartment can be

 

 22   phosphorylated by a number of kinases which are

 

 23   either present in the raft compartment, such as

 

 24   RLK, or recruited to the raft compartment via the

 

 25   action of another specialized phosphorylated lipid

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  1   PIP-3, such as ITK.  These are a member of the TAK

 

  2   family of kinase which are a member of the

 

  3   subfamily of kinase, although their mechanism of

 

  4   regulation is different.  The contribution of Lck

 

  5   and RLK in our hands shows that it leads to

 

  6   phosphorylation of PLC-gamma-1 which presumably

 

  7   induces a confirmation of modification of PLC-gamma

 

  8   and the ability of PLC-gamma to activate and

 

  9   mobilize calcium.

 

 10             Our data showed that if we artificially

 

 11   target PLC-gamma through the lipid raft we

 

 12   basically bypass this entire initial phase,

 

 13   although Lck and RLK are still required, presumably

 

 14   because of their contribution to the

 

 15   phosphorylation.  Artificially targeted PLC-gamma

 

 16   to the raft compartment is phosphorylated and is

 

 17   active bypassing the receptor entirely.  So, this

 

 18   is a dominant, positive variant of the PLC-gamma.

 

 19             What happened with the negative

 

 20   regulation, initial phase is the same and PLC-gamma

 

 21   is interacting with the Lck-76.  C-Cbl binds to the

 

 22   SU-3 domain of PLC-gamma very much in the manner

 

 23   seen with Lck-76.  So, there is probably

 

 24   competition by a mechanism which we still don't

 

 25   understand.  C-Cbl is also phosphorylated in

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  1   response to activation of the T cell receptor and

 

  2   that leads to inhibition of PLC-gamma presumably

 

  3   via a mechanism of ubiquitilation.  We are still

 

  4   investigating this, however, data that confirm that

 

  5   this may be the case is that the variant to 73-Z

 

  6   C-Cbl, and we now have data with another variant

 

  7   that is Ub-ligase deficient, which results in the

 

  8   dephosphorylation of PLC-gamma by a mechanism that

 

  9   we still do not know but that does not require

 

 10   Lck-76, and that leads to the activation of

 

 11   PLC-gamma by a mechanism that is independent of the

 

 12   T-cell receptor.  So, we believe that C-Cbl and

 

 13   Lck-76 and the equilibrium between the two

 

 14   coordinate the assembly of the complex that in one

 

 15   case is activatory and in the other case is

 

 16   inhibitory.

 

 17             As far as our future plan, we will

 

 18   continue to investigate the role of PLC-gamma-1 and

 

 19   gamma-2 as a second isozyme present preferentially

 

 20   in B-cells and in other hematopoietic cells where

 

 21   gamma-1 is ubiquitously present in all cells.  We

 

 22   will focus further between these two enzymes and

 

 23   other pathways in the co-stimulatory activation of

 

 24   T cells.

 

 25             I mentioned earlier the function that the

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  1   function of the SS2 domain is still unknown and we

 

  2   have obtained quite a bit of new exciting results

 

  3   on the function of this domain and its coupling to

 

  4   a number of different molecules, but the bottom

 

  5   line that I want to give you is that domain

 

  6   regulates the intrinsic activity of PLC-gamma by

 

  7   intermediate intermolecular interaction which

 

  8   regulates its opening up and the availability of

 

  9   the other subdomains.  So, it is a fundamental

 

 10   mechanism of regulation.

 

 11             We will continue, of course, to

 

 12   investigate the role and mechanism of

 

 13   phosphorylation of PLC-gamma.  What the enzymes are

 

 14   that phosphorylate the PLC-gamma are largely

 

 15   unknown.  We have a candidates are, as I mentioned

 

 16   earlier, but what the different candidates do in

 

 17   terms of individual residues, and there are at

 

 18   least four and mostly likely five residues, and

 

 19   what is the role of the individual residue is still

 

 20   quite unclear.

 

 21             Because we have made a dominant positive,

 

 22   we have now also developed a dominant negative

 

 23   PLC-gamma, and we will certainly ask the question

 

 24   of the role of PLC-gamma development by using

 

 25   transgenic technology.  Finally, and I am not going

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  1   to dwell on this, but we are using technology to

 

  2   recompartmentelize PLC-gamma intracellularly by a

 

  3   condition of mechanism.

 

  4             With respect to the role of C-Cbl again,

 

  5   C-Cbl is probably a threshold for activation, and

 

  6   the impact of C-Cbl on the co-stimulatory signal is

 

  7   the ability of the cell to behave as naive or

 

  8   memory will be investigated.  We are going to

 

  9   generate some C-Cbl-deficient lines and we are

 

 10   going to try to do that by a number of different

 

 11   strategies.  As I said, we have some new data on

 

 12   the C-Cbl-mediated with the delineation of

 

 13   PLC-gamma-1.  I can tell you that it is

 

 14   ubiquitilated.  The role of C-Cbl in this remains

 

 15   to be determined but we have evidence that by using

 

 16   Ub-ligase to inhibit the C-Cbl negative cells is,

 

 17   in fact, the case.

 

 18             Finally, we will try, as I said earlier,

 

 19   to generate some C-Cbl deficient cell line using

 

 20   interferon RNA and that will help us in the study

 

 21   of kinetics in mice for PLC-gamma activation.

 

 22             I just want to leave you with the number

 

 23   of individuals who have contributed in one way or

 

 24   another with particular reagents and a number of

 

 25   collaborators that we have worked with whom I would

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  1   like to acknowledge for their help in this.  And, I

 

  2   will be glad to take any questions.

 

  3             DR. SALOMON:  That was a very nice

 

  4   presentation and good work, and also my same

 

  5   comments, that I wish more people could see the

 

  6   kind of quality work that is going on in the FDA,

 

  7   oftentimes, with a lot less support not because of

 

  8   your fault or the FDA support but just because of

 

  9   the budget constraints than we are used to in

 

 10   academia.  It is excellent.

 

 11             The part that is confusing me here,

 

 12   besides the fact that I really am still asleep, is

 

 13   that we now have to switch officially to a closed

 

 14   session to vote on accepting the report.  Gail will

 

 15   make sure that the right people have to leave.

 

 16   Anyway, we will see you again very shortly.

 

 17             [Whereupon, the open session was recessed

 

 18   to continue in closed session and reconvene in open

 

 19   session at 9:15 a.m.]

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  1                      P R O C E E D I N G S

 

  2                Welcome and Administrative Remarks

 

  3             DR. SALOMON:  If we can get everybody to

 

  4   sit down we will start the main show, I guess we

 

  5   should say.  For the larger group here now, this is

 

  6   meeting number 32 of the Biological Response

 

  7   Modifiers Advisory Committee.  My name is Dan

 

  8   Salomon.  I have the pleasure to chair the meeting

 

  9   this morning.  What we usually do at the start, as

 

 10   in many big committee meetings where a lot of us

 

 11   don't know each other initially--we will certainly

 

 12   get to know each other as the day goes on, is just

 

 13   to go around the table and introduce yourself, and

 

 14   make a couple of quick sentences about what your

 

 15   interests are and your scientific expertise.  We

 

 16   can start at that end of the table.  Dr. Casper?

 

 17             DR. CASPER:  Hi.  I am Bob Casper, am a

 

 18   professor of obstetrics and gynecology and

 

 19   physiology at the University of Toronto, and I am

 

 20   head of the Division of the Reproductive Sciences.

 

 21   I have clinically been involved st in vitro

 

 22   fertilization for several years, and our laboratory

 

 23   at the present time has an interest in

 

 24   mitochondrial research involving aging of human

 

 25   oocytes.  We have also been doing some work with

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  1   mitochondrial transfer experiments in mice.

 

  2             DR. SALOMON:  There is a button here that

 

  3   you push and then you have to remember to turn it

 

  4   off, otherwise there will be feedback.

 

  5             DR. KNOWLES:  Thank you.  I am Lori

 

  6   Knowles.  I am from the Hastings Center.  I have a

 

  7   background in international law and policy, and I

 

  8   am principal investigator right now of an

 

  9   international project on reprogenetic regulation

 

 10   and affects, and also do work in international stem

 

 11   cell policy.

 

 12             DR. NAVIAUX:  I am Bob Naviaux, from the

 

 13   Mitochondrial Metabolic Disease Center at the

 

 14   University of California, San Diego.  My basic work

 

 15   is in mitochondrial DNA replication, and we also

 

 16   have interest in inborn errors of metabolism and

 

 17   adult and childhood mitochondrial disorders.

 

 18             DR. SHOUBRIDGE:  I am Eric Shoubridge.  I

 

 19   am a professor at McGill University in the

 

 20   Departments of Human Genetics and Neurology and

 

 21   Neurosurgery.  I have a research lab at the

 

 22   Montreal Neurological Institute and our laboratory

 

 23   is interested in the basis of mitochondrial

 

 24   disease, the molecular basis, and we are interested

 

 25   in basic, fundamental aspects of mitochondrial

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  1   genetics.

 

  2             DR. SCHON:  My name is Eric Schon.  I am a

 

  3   professor of genetics and development in the

 

  4   Department of Neurology at Columbia University, and

 

  5   I do everything that Eric Shoubridge does.

 

  6             [Laughter]

 

  7             DR. VAN BLERKOM:  Jon Van Blerkom.  I am

 

  8   from the University of Colorado, Molecular Biology

 

  9   Department, and I am also in clinical practice in

 

 10   in vitro fertilization, for about twenty years.

 

 11             DR. MURRAY:  I am Tom Murray.  I am from

 

 12   the Hastings Center these days, after fifteen years

 

 13   of medical schools, most recently Case Western

 

 14   Reserve University.  My research has been broadly

 

 15   in the field of ethics and medicine and the life

 

 16   sciences, and I have done a lot of work on

 

 17   reproductive technologies, genetics and parents and

 

 18   children.

 

 19             DR. RAO:  My name is Mahendra Rao, and I

 

 20   am a section chief in stem cell biology at the

 

 21   National Institute of Aging, and I am a member of

 

 22   this committee.  My interests are in embryonic stem

 

 23   cells and adult stem cells.

 

 24             DR. MULLIGAN:  I am Richard Mulligan.  I

 

 25   am from the Harvard Medical School, Children's

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  1   Hospital.  I am a stem cell person and a gene

 

  2   transfer person, and a member of BRMAC.

 

  3             DR. SALOMON:  I am Dan Salomon.  I am from

 

  4   the Scripps Research Institute and my lab is doing

 

  5   cell transplantation, tissue engineering,

 

  6   angiogenesis and therapeutic gene delivery.

 

  7             MS. DAPOLITO:  Gail Dapolito, Center for

 

  8   Biologics, executive secretary.

 

  9             DR. SAUSVILLE:  Ed Sausville.  I am the

 

 10   associate director of NCI's Division of Cancer

 

 11   Treatment and Diagnosis, with responsibility for

 

 12   the development of our therapeutics program, and

 

 13   our interest is in the preclinical studies leading

 

 14   to the approval for INDs for drugs and biologics.

 

 15             MS. WOLFSON:  Alice Wolfson.  I am the

 

 16   consumer representative on the committee.  I am an

 

 17   attorney specializing in policy holder

 

 18   representation, with particular emphasis on

 

 19   disability policy holders and their struggles with

 

 20   their insurance companies.  I have a strong

 

 21   interest in health.  I am a founder of the National

 

 22   Women's Health Network, and I am particularly

 

 23   interested in the social effects of postponing

 

 24   fertility as well as the social effects of not

 

 25   postponing fertility and I think it may have, along

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  1   with the scientific elements in it, the beginnings

 

  2   of a possibility of a resurgence of another wing of

 

  3   the women's movement.

 

  4             DR. ROSE:  I am Stephen Rose.  I am from

 

  5   the National Institute of Health, Office of

 

  6   Biotechnology Activities, deputy director for the

 

  7   recombinant DNA program.

 

  8             DR. MONROE:  I am Scott Monroe.  I am from

 

  9   the Division of Reproductive and Neurologic Drug

 

 10   Products at CDER.  I am an

 

 11   obstetrician/gynecologist and a reproductive

 

 12   endocrinologist.

 

 13             DR. SERABIAN:  I am Mercedes Serabian.  I

 

 14   am an expert toxicologist with the Office of

 

 15   Therapeutics in the Division of Clinical Trials,

 

 16   and I will be part of the review team at CBER that

 

 17   will be reviewing these INDs when they come in.

 

 18             DR. MOOS:  I am Malcolm Moos, from the

 

 19   Division of Cellular Gene Therapy at the FDA.  My

 

 20   research interests are cell and tissue

 

 21   specification and patterning, and I am also

 

 22   concerned with review of cellular products,

 

 23   primarily that have to do with that general

 

 24   biological area.

 

 25             DR. HURSH:  I am Deborah Hursh.  I am also

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  1   a cellular product reviewer in the Division of Cell

 

  2   and Gene Therapy, and I have a research lab

 

  3   studying developmental biology and signal

 

  4   transduction.

 

  5             DR. NOGUCHI:  I am Phil Noguchi.  I am the

 

  6   director of the Division of Cell and Gene Therapy,

 

  7   where we see these and other novel technologies and

 

  8   continually struggle with doing the right thing.

 

  9             [Laughter]

 

 10             DR. SIEGEL:  I am Jay Siegel.  I direct

 

 11   the Office of Therapeutics Research and Review at

 

 12   the Center for Biologics, FDA.

 

 13             DR. SALOMON:  I welcome all of you.  I

 

 14   think one of the privileges of being on the

 

 15   committee and certainly chairing it is the chance

 

 16   to interact with experts at each of these sessions

 

 17   that take me into areas that are often new to me,

 

 18   and today is definitely one of those areas.  It is

 

 19   a fantastically important discussion that we are

 

 20   going to have that has a lot of implications on

 

 21   what is going to happen over the next several

 

 22   years.  So, I specifically feel a lot of

 

 23   responsibility to this particular session and how

 

 24   we go forward.

 

 25             There will be some more comments later on

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  1   that, just simple administrative things.  My job,

 

  2   obviously, is to stay on time and also to get the

 

  3   questions the FDA answered and keep everybody on

 

  4   track.  So, if you will forgive me sometimes

 

  5   playing my administrative role which sometimes

 

  6   includes being rude.  I apologize in advance.

 

  7             The button thing, we have all been through

 

  8   it.  It gets to be a real problem with feedback and

 

  9   also with the transcriber.  So, if I ever sort of

 

 10   look at you and kind of point to the button, it is

 

 11   just to let you know.  I think that is the major

 

 12   thing.  I want to try and keep track of sort of

 

 13   what we are going to do next so you will sort of

 

 14   know where we are going.

 

 15             What we will do now is a presentation of

 

 16   the certificate of appreciation to Dr. Ed

 

 17   Sausville, with some more comments to follow that.

 

 18   Then Gail Dapolito has some official things to read

 

 19   into the record and then we will start the full

 

 20   session with Dr. Hursh.

 

 21           Presentation of Certificate of Appreciation

 

 22             DR. SIEGEL:  It is indeed an honor, tinged

 

 23   with regret at his departure but an honor to speak

 

 24   of the many services that Dr. Sausville has

 

 25   provided to us through his participation in BRMAC

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  1   in recent years, and to thank you for them.  Those

 

  2   of you on the committee, of course, are aware of

 

  3   his many thoughtful contributions to the

 

  4   deliberations to this committee.  Some of you may

 

  5   be somewhat less aware of his many contributions as

 

  6   a representative of BRMAC to the Oncological Drugs

 

  7   Advisory Committee and other FDA committees to

 

  8   which we have taken products for consideration of

 

  9   approval, as well as contributions to our lab

 

 10   evaluation and site visiting program.

 

 11             We ask a lot, as you know, of BRMAC

 

 12   members.  It ranges from discussion of the issues

 

 13   regarding manufacturing a product, viral purity,

 

 14   protein stability, immunogenicity, and so forth,

 

 15   and how we should focus on safety.  The issues of

 

 16   clinical testing of a product; what is the

 

 17   appropriate trial design to get the answers we need

 

 18   and what to make of the answers when those trials

 

 19   are done; and, of course, as you heard this morning

 

 20   the issues of evaluating our research programs and

 

 21   how to make sure that they are tied in intimately

 

 22   to our mission and our goals and are of the highest

 

 23   quality.

 

 24             We choose experts in each and all of these

 

 25   areas to help us in our functions, but it is rare

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  1   that we have an expert--rare both inside the agency

 

  2   and outside but very much appreciated when we have

 

  3   someone such as Dr. Sausville who really is the

 

  4   regulatory expert triple threat, who integrates an

 

  5   understanding of the clinical evaluation of the

 

  6   basic science, of the research needed to support

 

  7   that, and can participate in an integrated

 

  8   assessment in any of those areas, understanding the

 

  9   implications for the others.  That is what you have

 

 10   done for us for these several years and it is very

 

 11   much appreciated.  Thank you very much.

 

 12             [Applause]

 

 13             DR. GOODMAN:  I know Dr. Zoon and I really

 

 14   second that and appreciate the tremendous breadth

 

 15   of expertise Dr. Sausville has brought.  I was

 

 16   going to stress the same thing.  From what I have

 

 17   understood and seen, this translational ability

 

 18   between the laboratory and the clinical setting,

 

 19   and an understanding of product development, those

 

 20   things are just extremely important and we really

 

 21   appreciate it.  We look forward to continuing to

 

 22   call on you and get your input and help.  Thanks

 

 23   very, very much.  So, we have a nice certificate

 

 24   and plaque.

 

 25             [Applause]

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  1             DR. SALOMON:  I can't not make my own

 

  2   personal comments, having been together with Ed on

 

  3   this committee for four years.  I don't know how

 

  4   many of you have seen the movie "The Scorpion

 

  5   King."  I guess is depends on how old your kids

 

  6   are, but the actor in it is called "The Rock"

 

  7   because I suppose he is a professional wrestler as

 

  8   well.  But I really think that he is competing with

 

  9   the real "rock" who is Ed Sausville.  On any

 

 10   committee like this you have to have a rock.  I

 

 11   mean, you have to have the one guy who you can

 

 12   always turn to, even though everything has gone to

 

 13   shreds, and he just hits it right on the head.  You

 

 14   have to shut up and listen to him whenever he says

 

 15   anything.  Really, whenever there has been any kind

 

 16   of issue here, he is one of the people that I come

 

 17   to at the break and say, "you know, Ed, what the

 

 18   heck do we do now?"  And, he always has good

 

 19   advice.  This is not good at all, to have Ed

 

 20   leaving and all I can do is say I will always be

 

 21   dragging you back here, and he is really, really

 

 22   going to be a loss to the committee.  Thank you.

 

 23   Gail?

 

 24             MS. DAPOLITO:  I would like to read the

 

 25   meeting statement.  This announcement is part of

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  1   the public record for the May 9, 2002 Biological

 

  2   Response Modifiers Advisory Committee meeting.

 

  3             Pursuant to the authority granted under

 

  4   the Committee Charter, the director of FDA Center

 

  5   for Biologies Evaluation and Research has appointed

 

  6   Ms. Lori Knowles and Drs. Thomas Murray, Robert

 

  7   Naviaux, Eric Schon, Eric Shoubridge, Daniel

 

  8   Salomon and Jonathan Van Blerkom as temporary

 

  9   voting members for the discussions on issues

 

 10   related to ooplasm transfer in assistive

 

 11   reproduction.  In addition, Dr. Salomon serves as

 

 12   the acting chair for this meeting.

 

 13             To determine if any conflicts of interest

 

 14   existed, the agency reviewed the submitted agenda

 

 15   and all financial interests reported by the meeting

 

 16   participants.  In regards to FDA's invited guests,

 

 17   the agency has determined that the services of

 

 18   these guests are essential.  The following

 

 19   interests are being made public to allow meeting

 

 20   participants to objectively evaluate any

 

 21   presentation and/or comments made by the guests

 

 22   related to the discussions and issues related to

 

 23   ooplasm transfer in assisted reproduction.

 

 24             Dr. Robert Casper is employed by the

 

 25   University of Toronto in the Division of

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  1   Reproductive Science at Mt. Sinai Hospital in

 

  2   Toronto.  Dr. Jacques Cohen is employed by the St.

 

  3   Barnabas Medical Center.  Dr. Susan Lanzendorf is

 

  4   employed by the Eastern Virginia Medical School at

 

  5   the Jones Institute of Reproductive Medicine.  Drs.

 

  6   Amy Patterson, Marina O'Reilly and Stephen Rose are

 

  7   employed by the Office of Biotechnology Activities,

 

  8   NIH.

 

  9             In the event that the discussions involve

 

 10   other products or firms not already on the agenda

 

 11   for which FDA participants have a financial

 

 12   interest, the participants are aware of the need to

 

 13   exclude themselves from such involvement and their

 

 14   exclusion will be noted for the public record.

 

 15             With respect to all other meeting

 

 16   participants, we ask in the interest of fairness

 

 17   that you state your name, affiliation, and address

 

 18   any current or previous financial involvement with

 

 19   any firm whose product you wish to comment upon.

 

 20   Thank you.

 

 21             DR. SALOMON:  Thank you, Gail.  Before we

 

 22   officially get started, let me just make a couple

 

 23   of quick comments.  That is, the task we have here

 

 24   is to begin now, through about four o'clock this

 

 25   afternoon at which point we will have gone through

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  1   a series of presentations on this issue of ooplasm

 

  2   transfer that clearly touch on some absolutely

 

  3   major areas, we encourage you to ask questions and

 

  4   to set the stage for critical discussions which I

 

  5   will try to keep on time, but also it is so

 

  6   important that these critical discussions develop

 

  7   that we will have to be a little flexible about how

 

  8   that goes, leading up to a discussion at 4:00 of

 

  9   specific questions that have been put together by

 

 10   the FDA that will frame issues the FDA wants input

 

 11   from us on regarding developing an IND process for

 

 12   this field.

 

 13             The only other comment I want to make to

 

 14   all of you is get your thoughts out on the table.

 

 15   There is no need to force an agreement on anybody.

 

 16   You are more than welcome to articulate and defend

 

 17   a minority opinion.  I don't believe my job here is

 

 18   to come up with some absolute consensus.  My job is

 

 19   to identify where consensus can be reached,

 

 20   however, as well as to have you help us figure out

 

 21   where there isn't consensus and perhaps other

 

 22   additional efforts in those areas are coming.

 

 23             We have to make sure that when we are

 

 24   done--I feel very strongly--that we can say to the

 

 25   public that this was an open, balanced discussion

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  1   of the issues.  That is a major responsibility.

 

  2   If, in the middle of discussions, somebody goes,

 

  3   you know, we are really missing this piece and we

 

  4   just don't have it here today, then that should go

 

  5   into the record as well because I think that is

 

  6   part of being fair to the whole field.

 

  7             With respect to the audience, I feel you

 

  8   are as much part of this discussion as we are.  It

 

  9   is a little harder to control you so you will have

 

 10   to forgive that, but you are certainly not just

 

 11   welcome but encouraged to step up at key points of

 

 12   the discussion and bring your expertise and your

 

 13   viewpoints to it.  The rules are simply to keep it

 

 14   brief and identify yourself, and realize that with

 

 15   the competition to try to keep everything on time I

 

 16   will also have to manage that.  But very much,

 

 17   please feel part of the discussion that will take

 

 18   place today.

 

 19             That is basically it and I am really

 

 20   looking forward to any discussion that follows and

 

 21   the diversity of expertise we have here.  With that

 

 22   introduction, Dr. Hursh?

 

 23            Ooplasm Transfer in Assisted Reproduction

 

 24                         FDA Introduction

 

 25             DR. HURSH:  I would also like to welcome

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  1   the participants and the audience to this meeting

 

  2   of the Biological Response Modifiers Advisory

 

  3   Committee.

 

  4             This is day one of a two-day meeting of

 

  5   the Biological Response Modifiers Advisory

 

  6   Committee.  On this first day we will discuss

 

  7   ooplasm transfer in the treatment of female

 

  8   infertility.  On the second day the topic will be

 

  9   potential germline transmission during gene

 

 10   therapy.  We have chosen to link these two topics

 

 11   as both of them deal with the transfer of genetic

 

 12   material go gametes, sperm and eggs.

 

 13             This has occurred in the case of ooplasm

 

 14   transfer and is a potential inadvertent risk of

 

 15   gene therapy.  In both cases heritable genetic

 

 16   modifications will be produced.  While the FDA and

 

 17   the Recombinant DNA Advisory Committee have

 

 18   discussed some of these issues previously, FDA felt

 

 19   it was timely to have further open public

 

 20   discussion on the subject of gene transfer in

 

 21   gametes in light of the evidence of new mechanisms,

 

 22   such as the manipulation of oocytes by which germ

 

 23   cells can be genetically modified.

 

 24             Since today's discussion is focused on

 

 25   ooplasm transfer, I will limit the rest of my

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  1   remarks to that topic.  We will hear about this in

 

  2   much greater detail from our first two speakers

 

  3   but, in brief, in ooplasm transfer 5 percent to 15

 

  4   percent of an unfertilized egg cytoplasm, which is

 

  5   called ooplasm, is transferred from a donor into a

 

  6   recipient, and is then fertilized in vitro.

 

  7   Recipients are women who have been unable to

 

  8   conceive through conventional in vitro

 

  9   fertilization.  The cytoplasm of an oocyte is

 

 10   considered specialized and it contains proteins,

 

 11   messenger RNAs, small molecules and organelles.  It

 

 12   is not clear which of these components is the

 

 13   putative active component of ooplasm, but it is

 

 14   with one of these organelles, the mitochondria,

 

 15   that we will be primarily concerned with.

 

 16             Most of you are probably aware that

 

 17   mitochondria are the powerhouse of a cell, the site

 

 18   where aerobic respiration, the production of energy

 

 19   using oxygen occurs.  But they have other

 

 20   functions.  They are involved in fatty acid

 

 21   metabolism, intracellular ion balance and

 

 22   programmed cell death.

 

 23             As you can see on the schematic diagram

 

 24   here, they are a very specialized subcellular

 

 25   structure, membrane bound, and each cell has many,

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  1   many mitochondria to support the energy

 

  2   requirements of that cell.  I would like to draw

 

  3   your attention to the little squiggle in the middle

 

  4   because that is one of the issues about

 

  5   mitochondria that concerns us here.  Perhaps the

 

  6   most important feature for our purposes is that,

 

  7   due to their supposed evolution from primitive

 

  8   bacteria, mitochondria contain their own genome.

 

  9             The mitochondrial genome is very small.

 

 10   It is only about 17,000 base pairs as opposed to

 

 11   several billion for the human genome.  However, it

 

 12   has 37 distinct genes.  Unrelated individuals have

 

 13   distinct genotypes of mitochondria, so distinct

 

 14   that they can be used by forensic biologists to

 

 15   establish relatedness among human beings.  The

 

 16   mitochondrial DNA, while small, is very important

 

 17   because mutations associated with mitochondrial DNA

 

 18   result in human disease.  While I realize you

 

 19   cannot read what is in the balloons, the point of

 

 20   the schematic diagram here is this is the circular

 

 21   mitochondrial genome and each one of these balloons

 

 22   represents positions of mapped mitochondrial

 

 23   mutations that result in human disease.

 

 24             Mitochondria obey unusual rules of

 

 25   inheritance.  In mammals, after fertilization, the

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  1   mitochondria contributed by the sperm are

 

  2   apparently destroyed.  Therefore, the only

 

  3   population of mitochondria in a developing embryo

 

  4   and in the resultant progeny come from the pool

 

  5   existing in the oocyte prior to fertilization.

 

  6             In general, oocytes therefore get all of

 

  7   their mitochondria from the mother and that

 

  8   mitochondria is a homogeneous pool of a single

 

  9   genetic type.  This is a condition that is called

 

 10   homoplasmy.  This is the more common situation in

 

 11   human oocytes.  Having two distinct genetic forms,

 

 12   two distinct pools of mitochondria is less common

 

 13   and this is referred to as heteroplasmy.  While

 

 14   heteroplasmy is unusual with wild type

 

 15   mitochondria, it is actually seen in people who

 

 16   have mitochondrial disease where you can have a

 

 17   population of mutant and a population of wild type

 

 18   mitochondria co-existing in the same cell.

 

 19             In studies of heteroplasmy it has been

 

 20   observed that mitochondrial genotypes can be

 

 21   partitioned unequally among tissues, and I believe

 

 22   we will hear a great deal more about this from one

 

 23   of our speakers this morning, Dr. Eric Shoubridge.

 

 24             So, what happens after ooplasm transfer?

 

 25   If there are mitochondria transferred during

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  1   ooplasm transfer, what is the result?  In March of

 

  2   2001, a laboratory of Dr. Jacques Cohen reported

 

  3   that two children born after the ooplasm transfer

 

  4   protocol were heteroplasmic, which means the

 

  5   genotypes of both the ooplasm donor and the mother

 

  6   could be detected in their tissues.  These children

 

  7   were approximately one year old at the time of this

 

  8   analysis, so this was a persistent heteroplasmy

 

  9   that had been maintained.

 

 10             At the time of Dr. Cohen's publication the

 

 11   FDA was already considering action in the area of

 

 12   ooplasm transfer.  The report of heteroplasmy

 

 13   raised our concerns, as did information in two

 

 14   pregnancies occurring after ooplasm transfer

 

 15   resulted in fetuses with Turner's syndrome, a

 

 16   condition where there is only one X chromosome.

 

 17             In addition, despite the fact that Dr.

 

 18   Cohen refers to this as an experimental protocol

 

 19   that should not be widely used, we felt that it was

 

 20   beginning to spread rapidly into clinical practice

 

 21   in the United States by 2001.  There were at least

 

 22   23 children born in the United States after using

 

 23   ooplasm transfer.  Three United States clinics had

 

 24   published on this procedure and we, at FDA, were

 

 25   able to find five additional clinics that were

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  1   advertising this procedure on the internet.

 

  2             FDA had concerns about whether we

 

  3   understood all the ramifications of this procedure

 

  4   and whether we understood its safety in particular,

 

  5   and reacted by sending letters to practitioners who

 

  6   were identified by publications on ooplasm transfer

 

  7   or by advertisements offering the procedure.  We

 

  8   advised practitioners that we would now require the

 

  9   submission of an investigational new drug

 

 10   application, or IND, to the agency and its

 

 11   subsequent review to continue to treat new

 

 12   patients.  After the letter was issued we had

 

 13   telephone conversations with several practitioners

 

 14   who wanted to know more about the IND submissions

 

 15   procedure.

 

 16             After these conversations FDA felt this

 

 17   topic would be well served by open public

 

 18   transparent discussion of the ooplasm transfer

 

 19   procedure and the data behind it, hence this

 

 20   meeting.  The major issue we, at FDA, are trying to

 

 21   achieve consensus on at this advisory committee

 

 22   meeting is are preclinical and clinical data

 

 23   supporting the safety and efficacy of ooplasm

 

 24   transfer sufficient to justify the risks of

 

 25   clinical trials?  If additional data are needed,

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  1   what types of data would be the most informative,

 

  2   what model systems, what size studies?

 

  3             FDA's tasks in regulating new therapies is

 

  4   to weigh risks and benefits and to determine what

 

  5   safeguards need to be in place to ensure the safety

 

  6   of human subjects.  That is what we will do with

 

  7   ooplasm transfer.  While the FDA welcomes

 

  8   discussion with all interested parties, our topic

 

  9   today is very limited.  We will, therefore, limit

 

 10   today's discussion to the science behind ooplasm

 

 11   transfer and not extend that discussion to FDA's

 

 12   jurisdiction in general, FDA's proposed rules for

 

 13   the regulation of human cells and tissues and other

 

 14   assisted reproductive technologies.  Thank you very

 

 15   much.

 

 16             DR. SALOMON:  Thank you, Deborah.  Unless

 

 17   there are any pressing questions, I think the

 

 18   purpose of that was clearly just to set the stage

 

 19   for what is to follow.  What I would like to do is

 

 20   invite Dr. Susan Lanzendorf to present cytoplasmic

 

 21   transfer in the human oocyte.   She is from the

 

 22   Jones Institute of Reproductive Medicine.

 

 23                Cytoplasmic Transfer in the Human

 

 24             DR. LANZENDORF:  I have come here today to

 

 25   share some of the experiences that we have

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  1   encountered at the Jones Institute with the

 

  2   procedure of cytoplasm transfer in the human.

 

  3             Cytoplasmic transfer was first considered

 

  4   at the Jones Institute back in 1990 when an

 

  5   investigator, a clinical fellow, Flood et al.,

 

  6   reported that the developmental potential of

 

  7   oocytes to mature in vitro can be increased by

 

  8   injecting with the cytoplasm of oocytes matured in

 

  9   vivo.  This was performed in the monkey model.

 

 10             This study found that 13 percent of the

 

 11   injected oocytes resulted in pregnancies while none

 

 12   of the sham-injected or non-surgical controls

 

 13   resulted in a pregnancy.  The investigators felt

 

 14   that this suggested that factors may be present

 

 15   within the cytoplasm that control genetic,

 

 16   maturational and/or developmental properties.

 

 17             Then, in 1997, Cohen and coworkers

 

 18   reported the first human pregnancy from the

 

 19   transfer of cytoplasm from donor eggs.  They

 

 20   reported that the goal of the procedure was to

 

 21   provide healthy cytoplasmic factors to the eggs of

 

 22   the patients who repeatedly produce embryos of poor

 

 23   quality.

 

 24             We were very interested in this report.

 

 25   We see a lot of patients who come through in vitro

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  1   fertilization who repeatedly fail to achieve a

 

  2   pregnancy and many times we are at a loss on how to

 

  3   continue treatment in these patients who just don't

 

  4   seem to get pregnant.  So, we approached our

 

  5   institutional review board to see if we could

 

  6   investigate this procedure.

 

  7             We decided to look at two groups of

 

  8   patients, in one of which the wife is 40 years of

 

  9   age or older, or in couples who have had at least

 

 10   two previous IVF attempts which resulted in only

 

 11   poor quality embryos.  In in vitro fertilization we

 

 12   have found that when you transfer embryos that have

 

 13   an ideal morphology they result in a higher

 

 14   pregnancy rate than those who have less than an

 

 15   ideal morphology.  So, this was an attempt to try

 

 16   to improve this and, hopefully, increase the

 

 17   pregnancy rate.

 

 18             Again, we put this to the institutional

 

 19   review board and we requested permission to do this

 

 20   with 15 consenting patients.  We worked very hard

 

 21   on our consent form, being that this was a

 

 22   procedure where very, very little was known.  So,

 

 23   of course, we tried to emphasize to the patients

 

 24   the risks that they might encounter, including that

 

 25   the effect of the procedure on the couple's eggs or

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  1   their ability to establish a pregnancy totally

 

  2   unknown.  What is also unknown is if the procedure

 

  3   would increase the risk of obstetric complications,

 

  4   or if the thawed donor eggs would even survive.  I

 

  5   should point out here that we used frozen and

 

  6   thawed donor eggs for our procedure.  So, we

 

  7   emphasized to the patient that if the thawed eggs

 

  8   didn't survive the procedure would not be performed

 

  9   and they may not get a transfer.  In addition, the

 

 10   patient's eggs may not survive the procedure or

 

 11   they may fail to fertilize and develop normally and

 

 12   they would not obtain a transfer.

 

 13             We also emphasized the risk to the

 

 14   offspring.  It is not known if the procedure would

 

 15   increase risk of obstetric complications or fetal

 

 16   abnormalities.  The eggs could be damaged in some

 

 17   way that could affect the offspring.  And, there

 

 18   was the possibility that genetic material could be

 

 19   transferred from the egg donor to the patient's

 

 20   eggs and it is unknown if this could adversely

 

 21   affect the offspring.

 

 22             In our consent form we did break this out

 

 23   into talking and making clear to the patient that

 

 24   there are two types of genetic material, DNA from

 

 25   the nucleus of the egg and the DNA from the

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  1   mitochondria.  So, we were careful to make them

 

  2   understand that the two different possibilities of

 

  3   genetic material could be transferred.

 

  4             The consent form also stressed that

 

  5   because the procedure is so new there is no way to

 

  6   determine what the exact risks are, or at what rate

 

  7   the risks occur.  In our other consent forms we try

 

  8   to say, you know, we have seen a 50 percent

 

  9   survival rate, or we have seen a 60 percent

 

 10   pregnancy rate but we couldn't even do this with

 

 11   this procedure because it is so new so we

 

 12   emphasized this to them.

 

 13             It was also recommended that all of the

 

 14   patients who achieve a pregnancy have an

 

 15   amniocentesis regardless of their age.  Then, of

 

 16   course, the boiler plate other risks that cannot be

 

 17   identified at that time.

 

 18             This is just to show you quickly how we

 

 19   perform the procedure.  Again, we used

 

 20   frozen-thawed donor eggs so the donor eggs that

 

 21   contributed the cytoplasm were collected and

 

 22   cryopreserved at a previous state.  Then, when the

 

 23   patient came through on the day of their aspiration

 

 24   and cytoplasm transfer, the donor eggs were thawed.

 

 25             So, before we get here what we will have

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  1   done is--this is the pipet here that we also use to

 

  2   do the donation.  This is the egg-holding pipet

 

  3   which just holds the egg in place.  This is the

 

  4   egg.  So, prior to getting here we would have got a

 

  5   drop of sperm and picked up a sperm from the

 

  6   patient's husband and loaded it in the pipet.  We

 

  7   then take this pipet with the sperm and insert it

 

  8   into the donor egg.  Then, once in the donor egg,

 

  9   we draw up cytoplasm that will be transferred.

 

 10             We then move to the recipient's egg, the

 

 11   patient in this scenario, and then put that pipet

 

 12   into the egg, inject that cytoplasm into the egg,

 

 13   along with the husband's sperm.  Actually, what

 

 14   occurs is the cytoplasm transfer and the

 

 15   utilization of the egg at the same time.

 

 16             Our results, we had eight patients in

 

 17   eight cycles who were 40 years of age or over, with

 

 18   an average age of 44.  The procedure did not appear

 

 19   to have an effect on embryo quality.  I say "did

 

 20   not appear" because there are too few numbers of

 

 21   actual embryos to compare with other embryos to

 

 22   make a significant conclusion.  No pregnancies were

 

 23   established in any of these eight patients.

 

 24             In the same 40 years or older group, 39

 

 25   eggs were retrieved, with a mean of 3.2 eggs per

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  1   patient.  This is low but is normal in patients in

 

  2   this age group.  We had a 54 percent fertilization

 

  3   rate, and this would be with the cytoplasm transfer

 

  4   occurring at the same time.  To do these

 

  5   procedures, we had to use cytoplasm from nine donor

 

  6   eggs, and these donors ranged in age from 25 to 29.

 

  7   Of the donor eggs, 62 percent survived the thaw

 

  8   procedure and were used.

 

  9             We had three patients who came through who

 

 10   had a history of poor quality embryos.  Actually,

 

 11   this is the group of patients that we thought we

 

 12   could really help with this procedure.  We did not

 

 13   go into it thinking that the older patients would

 

 14   be the ones that would benefit mostly, and I think

 

 15   the other investigators who performed this

 

 16   procedure would probably agree that it is not

 

 17   helping the older aged couples.

 

 18             So, these were three patients who had

 

 19   significant history of poor quality embryos in the

 

 20   past.  The age of these patients was 35, 35 and 38.

 

 21   The procedure did appear to have an effect on

 

 22   embryo quality.  To us, the embryos looked much

 

 23   better than those that we had seen from these same

 

 24   patients previously.  Of those three patients, one

 

 25   achieved a pregnancy.  It was a twin pregnancy that

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  1   was established.  That particular patient had

 

  2   undergone six previous IVF attempts with fresh

 

  3   transfer and three attempts with cryotransfer and

 

  4   never achieved a pregnancy.

 

  5             In these three patients 42 eggs were

 

  6   retrieved, a mean of 14.3 which, as you can see, is

 

  7   much higher than in the older patients; 62 percent

 

  8   fertilization rate with the cytoplasm transfer.

 

  9   This is the information on the donors that provided

 

 10   the eggs, and they had a 66 percent survival, those

 

 11   three donors.

 

 12             These are the twins.  I have been told

 

 13   that the medical director has spoken with the

 

 14   couple about having their twins evaluated

 

 15   genetically for all the questions that we are here

 

 16   about today.  The couple is not interested.  They

 

 17   feel their children, who are now three or four

 

 18   years old, are very healthy and very normal and

 

 19   they don't want anything else done with that.

 

 20             We were also looking at other things when

 

 21   we were doing these studies and before we received

 

 22   our letter to stop doing them.  One of the things

 

 23   that we were interested in was the inadvertent

 

 24   transfer of the nuclear material, the chromosomes

 

 25   from the donor egg into the recipient egg.  I

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  1   should point out here that would had actually met

 

  2   with a mitochondrial geneticist at our institution

 

  3   to find out--you know, we posed this problem of

 

  4   transferred mitochondria, and ask him did he think

 

  5   we would have a problem there; did he think that

 

  6   these mitochondria that we transferred we be passed

 

  7   on.  He assured us no, it was too few mitochondria

 

  8   and it couldn't happen.  So, we really didn't go

 

  9   into it thinking that that would be the problem.

 

 10   We were more concerned with accidentally

 

 11   transferring the nuclear material.

 

 12             So, we looked at some of the eggs that we

 

 13   had taken cytoplasm out of using staining.  We can

 

 14   actually see the spindle of the egg, and with this

 

 15   stain we can see the chromosomes on the spindle.

 

 16   So, we looked at these eggs that provided the

 

 17   cytoplasm, and this was published just recently,

 

 18   last year, and the oocytes that we evaluated

 

 19   resulted from either clinical cases I just

 

 20   described to you or research procedures which we

 

 21   are doing.

 

 22             In this case 12 oocytes were thawed but

 

 23   were not used for the transfer.  They weren't

 

 24   needed to provide cytoplasm so we used those as

 

 25   controls.  We had 23 eggs that we thawed which

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  1   survived the donation procedure.  These are the

 

  2   ones that served as tests.

 

  3             When we did the staining procedure on

 

  4   these eggs, the control eggs all demonstrated

 

  5   normal meiotic spindle but when we looked at the

 

  6   test eggs we found that 2/23 eggs that provided

 

  7   cytoplasm demonstrated total dispersion of the

 

  8   chromosomes from the metaphase plate, and complete

 

  9   disorganization of the spindles.

 

 10             Of course, the numbers are very small but

 

 11   there was no significant difference between the two

 

 12   groups.  So, we wondered if this was something to

 

 13   do with the drawing out of the cytoplasm that

 

 14   potentially disrupts the spindle.  We wondered,

 

 15   since it is a procedure that is very similar to

 

 16   ICSI, if this would be the same rate of meiotic

 

 17   spindle damage that you would see in ICSI oocytes.

 

 18             Because we were worried about this we

 

 19   looked at ways to see if there were some way we

 

 20   could prevent this.  So, we looked at a new

 

 21   microscope that was on the market, the PolScope.

 

 22   Having this attached to your microscope actually

 

 23   lets you visualize, while you are doing a

 

 24   procedure, the actual spindle so that you can see

 

 25   the spindle and you can stay clear of it.

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  1             Here is the egg, just a small part of the

 

  2   egg, the polar body and the spindle here.  So,

 

  3   while you are doing the procedure, you are sticking

 

  4   something into the egg and you can see the spindle

 

  5   and stay clear of it.  This is equipment that is

 

  6   currently used in many laboratories, including ours

 

  7   now, in which clinical ICSI cases are performed, or

 

  8   research involving enucleation where they want to

 

  9   see where the spindle is so they can take out the

 

 10   nuclear material.

 

 11             We also did a little work with looking at

 

 12   this from a research aspect.  We had a clinical

 

 13   fellow, Sam Brown, who wanted to see if the

 

 14   original work of Flood in 1990, where we used

 

 15   immature eggs, would have the same ft, cytoplasmic

 

 16   transfer.  The idea with it is the developmental

 

 17   failure of human embryos derived from oocytes

 

 18   matured in vitro may be due to the deficiency of

 

 19   cytoplasmic factors.  In in vitro fertilization we

 

 20   have found that when patients get a lot of immature

 

 21   eggs, eggs that need more time maturing before they

 

 22   can be inseminated, these eggs do not do as well.

 

 23   So, the idea was to see if human prophase I oocytes

 

 24   became developmentally competent after

 

 25   microinjecting them with the ooplasm of eggs

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  1   matured in vivo within the body.

 

  2             Sam hypothesized that such an injection

 

  3   would improve fertilization and blastocyst

 

  4   development of these immature eggs.  This was just

 

  5   a research project.  None of these eggs were

 

  6   transferred back to patients.  It was with the hope

 

  7   of salvaging immature eggs.  For example a patient

 

  8   who gets all immature eggs after a retrieval could

 

  9   have this procedure done and improve her chances of

 

 10   achieving a pregnancy.

 

 11             In the first part of the experiment looked

 

 12   at the effect of cytoplasmic transfer from in vivo

 

 13   matured eggs into PI eggs.  So, we had three

 

 14   groups, control eggs which were put on a stage of

 

 15   the microscope but not actually injected.  We found

 

 16   that 74 percent of these matured to metaphase II

 

 17   after continued culture.  Sham eggs were eggs that

 

 18   were injected with an equal amount of media only,

 

 19   not cytoplasm, and we found that only 50 percent

 

 20   matured to metaphase II.  Cytoplasm transfer eggs

 

 21   that actually had the procedure, 58 percent matured

 

 22   to metaphase II.  So, these findings suggested that

 

 23   injecting a substance into an egg may have a

 

 24   negative impact on maturation.

 

 25             We also inseminated these eggs to see if

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  1   they could be fertilized, and in the control the 14

 

  2   eggs that matured to metaphase II we had a 50

 

  3   percent fertilization rate.  Shame injected, we

 

  4   only had 38 percent fertilization rate.  With

 

  5   plasmic transfer four of the eight fertilized,

 

  6   which was 50 percent.  The development after

 

  7   culture was not remarkable between the three

 

  8   groups.  The numbers were very low and similar to

 

  9   what we always see with immature eggs.

 

 10             We also looked at the effect of

 

 11   cytoplasmic transfer on eggs that matured in vitro.

 

 12   They were first allowed to mature in vitro and then

 

 13   they were given the cytoplasm of an egg